Open Debate on the "Eternal Sonship vs Incarnate Sonship which is biblical?"

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so you cannot answer 101G question? thought so. but to show you 101G can answer you, yes, it was Jesus who raised up the body he was in, John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body." John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."

well Pete, do you believe Jesus the Lord that he raised up his own body? again yes, or no.

101G

 

[101G]

@Peterlag
well Pete, what's your choice, the two you depicted in the clip art, or God Holy Word. and Pete ... "WARNING", yes Jesus is the Father in Ordinal designation, yes as the diversity of himself in flesh.

101G.

 

[101G]

To all,
since there is silence in the room, 101G will make another accusation, but a revealing of TRUTH, "The Lord Jesus is not only the Son, but the Father in "Diversity", or the EQUAL SHARE of ONESELF....... in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK.

'101G

 

[101G]

To all, and @civic, @FreeInChrist, @praise_yeshua,
do you all agree with the Lord Jesus in John chapter 2:18-22, that HE JESUS RAISED UP HIS BODY, yes or no?

101G.

 

[e v e]

Christ has been and will be for ever
and is God's Son.


i don't get the debate here
or what the point is of it.

 

[e v e]

To all, and @civic, @FreeInChrist, @praise_yeshua,
do you all agree with the Lord Jesus in John chapter 2:18-22, that HE JESUS RAISED UP HIS BODY, yes or no?

101G.

Christ raised His glorified eden body

NOT this ape body =
(fallen type body on this earth)

cuz yes He took a Huge step down
to come here and make possible for us to Get Out
soon at rapture.

 

[e v e]

To all,
since there is silence in the room, 101G will make another accusation, but a revealing of TRUTH, "The Lord Jesus is not only the Son, but the Father in "Diversity", or the EQUAL SHARE of ONESELF....... in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK.

'101G

jesus is not the father .

 

[FreeInChrist]

@101G
You do not want a back and forth so I can not answer without explanation. He always does what He says. He cannot lie.

My answer would be Yes, because He said He would do it Himself.“Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

 

[101G]

Christ raised His glorified eden body

NOT this ape body =
(fallen type body on this earth)

cuz yes He took a Huge step down
to come here and make possible for us to Get Out
soon at rapture.

Eve, dose not resurrection means a change body? ... a new body? you said, "Christ raised His glorified eden body". when did his "GLORIFIED" body ever died in ordered to be raised? not a gloried body ...... correct.

cuz yes He took a Huge step down
to come here and make possible for us to Get Out
soon at rapture.

half right, but no rapture.

jesus is not the father .

A. What do ROOT of David means? the source, origin, and before David, as well as before Abraham, as well as BEFORE Adam. ... hello, Jesus is God. as a matter of FACT the ONLY GOD...... ................

B. Let's get the Holy Spirit also, the "advocate" who is the Lord Jesus, the COMFORTER.... (smile).

101G

 

[101G]

My answer would be Yes, because He said He would do it Himself.“Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

Finally, you do believe the bible after all. so, as said, no back and forth, but pure REASONING..... if God can REASON with us why we cannot do the same? Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

if you care to REASON, instead of back and forth, let's REASON together as the LORD said. scripture, still in John chapter 2, John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."

now, let's REASON together. if his disciples, Peter included, (see John 1:42-) "remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." why then did Peter on the day of Pentecost ....FULL of the Holy Ghost, said this. Acts 2:24 "Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it." but before the council, Peter and the other apostles said this, Acts 5:29 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree."

Here Peter and the other apostles specified clearly that the God who raised up the body of Jesus was, "The God of our fathers", meaning the God of the O.T. remember, John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." now if they remembered what the Lord Jesus said, and believed the scriptures, then JESUS is none other that the "LORD", the GREAT "I AM" of the old testament.

this is clear REASONING of the scriptures. if you disagree, please point out the ERROR(S)

101G.

 

[FreeInChrist]

Finally, you do believe the bible after all. so, as said, no back and forth, but pure REASONING..... if God can REASON with us why we cannot do the same? Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

if you care to REASON, instead of back and forth, let's REASON together as the LORD said. scripture, still in John chapter 2, John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."

now, let's REASON together. if his disciples, Peter included, (see John 1:42-) "remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." why then did Peter on the day of Pentecost ....FULL of the Holy Ghost, said this. Acts 2:24 "Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it." but before the council, Peter and the other apostles said this, Acts 5:29 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree."

Here Peter and the other apostles specified clearly that the God who raised up the body of Jesus was, "The God of our fathers", meaning the God of the O.T. remember, John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." now if they remembered what the Lord Jesus said, and believed the scriptures, then JESUS is none other that the "LORD", the GREAT "I AM" of the old testament.

this is clear REASONING of the scriptures. if you disagree, please point out the ERROW(S)

101G.

Nope. No back and forth.

 

[101G]

Nope. No back and forth.

Good then, no back and forth, so in REASONING, do you agree with 101G assessment of who raised up the Lord Jesus body in post #790?

101G.

 

[101G]

To All,
this is what 101G love about the bible. it confirms itself over and over. the apostle Paul knew that the Lord Jesus was God, the Great I AM of the OT, as well as the disciple of the Lord Jesus, Ananias. on Paul way to Damascus, then known as Saul, meet the Great God the I AM.... JESUS. God chose Paul/Saul, and Ananias was told this. Acts 22:11 "And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus." Acts 22:12 "And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there," Acts 22:13 "Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him." Acts 22:14 "And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth."
.the same thing Peter and the Other apostles said before the council. Acts 5:29 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree."

and there are many places in the bible that indicate the same REASONING.

101G.

 

[civic]

I am not my father and my father is not me, I am not my mother and my mother is not me, I am not my brother and my brother is not me, I am not my sister and my sister is not me, I am not my wife and my wife is not me, I am not my daughter and my daughter is not me, I am not my son and my son is not me , I am not my grandfather and he is not me, I am not my grandmother and she is not me, I am not my cousin and my cousin is not me.

Comprehende amigo ?

Common sense , basic understanding, basic grammar etc …

hope this helps !!!

 

[FreeInChrist]

Finally, you do believe the bible after all. so, as said, no back and forth, but pure REASONING..... if God can REASON with us why we cannot do the same? Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

if you care to REASON, instead of back and forth, let's REASON together as the LORD said. scripture, still in John chapter 2, John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."

now, let's REASON together. if his disciples, Peter included, (see John 1:42-) "remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." why then did Peter on the day of Pentecost ....FULL of the Holy Ghost, said this. Acts 2:24 "Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it." but before the council, Peter and the other apostles said this, Acts 5:29 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree."

Here Peter and the other apostles specified clearly that the God who raised up the body of Jesus was, "The God of our fathers", meaning the God of the O.T. remember, John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." now if they remembered what the Lord Jesus said, and believed the scriptures, then JESUS is none other that the "LORD", the GREAT "I AM" of the old testament.

this is clear REASONING of the scriptures. if you disagree, please point out the ERROW(S)

101G.

Nope. Not possible. Reasoning with you.

I say the God of our fathers from the OT days is the Son of God as God also. It should be perfectly clear to any that read their bibles.

You write" Here Peter and the other apostles specified clearly that the God who raised up the body of Jesus was, "The God of our fathers", meaning the God of the O.T. remember, John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." now if they remembered what the Lord Jesus said, and believed the scriptures, then JESUS is none other that the "LORD", the GREAT "I AM" of the old testament.

You are correct.

 

[101G]

I am not my father and my father is not me, I am not my mother and my mother is not me, I am not my brother and my brother is not me, I am not my sister and my sister is not me, I am not my wife and my wife is not me, I am not my daughter and my daughter is not me, I am not my son and my son is not me , I am not my grandfather and he is not me, I am not my grandmother and she is not me, I am not my cousin and my cousin is not me.

Comprehende amigo ?

Common sense , basic understanding, basic grammar etc …

hope this helps !!!

This is the IGNORANCE 101G speak of. a fleshly minded person. Romans 8:5 "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit." Romans 8:6 "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." Romans 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." Romans 8:8 "So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God." Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

101G.

 

[101G]

Nope. Not possible. Reasoning with you.

then you said,

You are correct.

(smile)....... There is hope.....

101G.

 

[101G]

as the apostle said, Romans 2:16 "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." LIKEWISE the same gospel the Lord has Jesus given unto 101G...... "Diversified Oneness". men will be judged by it.

101G.

 

[civic]

 

[101G]

Great, ..... laugh, ... the truth of God will stand, so keep on laughing, until you can answer how the Lord Jesus can sit on the throne and stand before the very throne he sits on. until then kept on laughing.......

101G.