No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

[TomL]

A person comes to Christ only because the Father causes him to come to Christ,

Thats what in essence Jn 6:44 is saying, Similar to Psalm 65:4

4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.

Its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

The drawing of the Father in Jn 6:44 is His causing His Chosen People to believe in Christ !14

Nope

That was during the time of the incarnation when written by the prophets

Everyone who hears and learns from the Father comes


John 6:45 (NASB95) — 45 “It is written in the prophets, ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.



Those who believe Moses



John 5:46 (LEB) — 46 For if you had believed Moses, you would believe me, for that one wrote about me.



Those who had God as their father



John 8:42 (LEB) — 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your father, you would love me, for I have come forth from God and have come. For I have not come from myself, but that one sent me.



Those desiring the will of God



John 7:17 (LEB) — 17 If anyone wants to do his will, he will know about my teaching, whether it is from God or I am speaking from myself.



Those who were God’s and have kept his word



John 17:6 (LEB) — 6 “I have revealed your name to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you have given them to me, and they have kept your word.

 

[TomL]

A person comes to Christ only because the Father causes him to come to Christ,

Thats what in essence Jn 6:44 is saying, Similar to Psalm 65:4

4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.

Its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

The drawing of the Father in Jn 6:44 is His causing His Chosen People to believe in Christ !14

Um John 6:44 is referencing Jewish people who were God's

After the resurrection, Jesus would draw all.

John 12:32 (NASB95) — 32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

 

[brightfame52]

Nope

Yes it is a covenant blessing

 

[brightfame52]

Um John 6:44 is referencing Jewish people who were God's

No ethnicity plays no part, all Gods elect are His

 

[civic]

Jn 3:16 is true

Good to know you now believe God loves everyone in the world.

That’s a start in the right direction

 

[TomL]

No ethnicity plays no part, all Gods elect are His

You are ignoring context.

During Christ's incarnation, the Father was testifying as to the Son among the Jews.


After the resurrection, Christ was drawing all to himself.

John 12:32 (NASB95) — 32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

 

[brightfame52]

Good to know you now believe God loves everyone in the world.

That’s a start in the right direction

Jn 3:16 doesn't say that

 

[brightfame52]

You are ignoring context.

No I'm not No man covers all ethnicity

 

[TomL]

Yes it is a covenant blessing

As always, you ignored scripture.



Everyone who hears and learns from the Father comes


John 6:45 (NASB95) — 45 “It is written in the prophets, ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.



Those who believe Moses



John 5:46 (LEB) — 46 For if you had believed Moses, you would believe me, for that one wrote about me.



Those who had God as their father



John 8:42 (LEB) — 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your father, you would love me, for I have come forth from God and have come. For I have not come from myself, but that one sent me.



Those desiring the will of God



John 7:17 (LEB) — 17 If anyone wants to do his will, he will know about my teaching, whether it is from God or I am speaking from myself.



Those who were God’s and have kept his word



John 17:6 (LEB) — 6 “I have revealed your name to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you have given them to me, and they have kept your word.

 

[brightfame52]

As always, you ignored scripture

I looked at them and I agree with them

 

[TomL]

No I'm not No man covers all ethnicity

Yes you are.

During Christ's incarnation, the Father was testifying as to the Son among the Jews.

Those who were the Father's

John 6:45 (NASB95) — 45 “It is written in the prophets, ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.

could learn from the Father and come


After the resurrection, Christ was drawing all to himself.

John 12:32 (NASB95) — 32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

 

[TomL]

I looked at them and I agree with them

As always, you ignored scripture.



Everyone who hears and learns from the Father comes


John 6:45 (NASB95) — 45 “It is written in the prophets, ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.



Those who believe Moses



John 5:46 (LEB) — 46 For if you had believed Moses, you would believe me, for that one wrote about me.



Those who had God as their father



John 8:42 (LEB) — 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your father, you would love me, for I have come forth from God and have come. For I have not come from myself, but that one sent me.



Those desiring the will of God



John 7:17 (LEB) — 17 If anyone wants to do his will, he will know about my teaching, whether it is from God or I am speaking from myself.



Those who were God’s and have kept his word



John 17:6 (LEB) — 6 “I have revealed your name to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you have given them to me, and they have kept your word.

Are you saying you believe all those men without being regenerated could believe and come to Christ?

 

[brightfame52]

Yes you are.

No I'm not

 

[brightfame52]

As always, you ignored scripture.

I agree with them

 

[Jay]

Good to know you now believe God loves everyone in the world.

That’s a start in the right direction

Bad news is... in the Calvinist dictionary "Word" means elect.

 

[Jay]

I agree with them

Amen, you must have left Calvinism. Welcome to real Christianity

 

[brightfame52]

Amen, you must have left Calvinism. Welcome to real Christianity

Tulip truth is the Gospel

 

[Jay]

Tulip truth is the Gospel

For the 100th time the answer to the post that you seen to always fall back on is... No it's not.

Tulip is not even close to being the gospel.

 

[TomL]

I agree with them

So you confess men are capable of believing without being made alive?c

For

Everyone who hears and learns from the Father comes


John 6:45 (NASB95) — 45 “It is written in the prophets, ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.



Those who believe Moses



John 5:46 (LEB) — 46 For if you had believed Moses, you would believe me, for that one wrote about me.



Those who had God as their father



John 8:42 (LEB) — 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your father, you would love me, for I have come forth from God and have come. For I have not come from myself, but that one sent me.



Those desiring the will of God



John 7:17 (LEB) — 17 If anyone wants to do his will, he will know about my teaching, whether it is from God or I am speaking from myself.



Those who were God’s and have kept his word



John 17:6 (LEB) — 6 “I have revealed your name to the men whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you have given them to me, and they have kept your word.

Are you saying you believe all those men without being regenerated could believe and come to Christ?

Will you ever answer the questions?

 

[TomL]

No I'm not

Sorry but

Yes you are.

During Christ's incarnation, the Father was testifying as to the Son among the Jews.

Those who were the Father's

John 6:45 (NASB95) — 45 “It is written in the prophets, ‘AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.

could learn from the Father and come


After the resurrection, Christ was drawing all to himself.

John 12:32 (NASB95) — 32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”