Judaism is very messy.....

praise_yeshua

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Christianity often appeals to Judaism as source of originating information for Christianity. However, Judaism is historically very messy.

As any Jew what they believe and they will appeal to the "Talmud" as evidence. Big problem there. The Western and Eastern Talmud is dramatically different. Dramatically. Each take different paths to the present. Yet, even Messianic Jews will base their theology on the flawed existence of the Talmud.

Not only this, I could name many more reasons why the historical narrative for Judaism is controlled by unbelief in Jesus Christ.

I must ask, why do some Christians insist upon a Christianity based upon a narrative rooted in Judaism when that narrative is based in unbelief?
 
Christianity often appeals to Judaism as source of originating information for Christianity. However, Judaism is historically very messy.

As any Jew what they believe and they will appeal to the "Talmud" as evidence. Big problem there. The Western and Eastern Talmud is dramatically different. Dramatically. Each take different paths to the present. Yet, even Messianic Jews will base their theology on the flawed existence of the Talmud.

Not only this, I could name many more reasons why the historical narrative for Judaism is controlled by unbelief in Jesus Christ.

I must ask, why do some Christians insist upon a Christianity based upon a narrative rooted in Judaism when that narrative is based in unbelief?
Is it based on thinking Judaism plainly meant following the Torah..so Christianity roots are from the Torah?
 
Is it based on thinking Judaism plainly meant following the Torah..so Christianity roots are from the Torah?
Christianity's roots are from the teaching of Jesus. Jesus did quote from the OT but criticized the Pharisees heavily for not following what they teach. Jesus did away with Mosiac law at the cross. God also said it in 2 Kings 23:27 -And the Lord said, “I will also remove Judah from My sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, ‘My name shall be there.’ and Mark 11:14- And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
 
Christianity's roots are from the teaching of Jesus. Jesus did quote from the OT but criticized the Pharisees heavily for not following what they teach. Jesus did away with Mosiac law at the cross. God also said it in 2 Kings 23:27 -And the Lord said, “I will also remove Judah from My sight, as I have removed Israel, and will cast off this city Jerusalem which I have chosen, and the house of which I said, ‘My name shall be there.’ and Mark 11:14- And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.

Yeah I agree. I'm just saying that the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. So the roots are in the OT
 
Christianity often appeals to Judaism as source of originating information for Christianity. However, Judaism is historically very messy.

As any Jew what they believe and they will appeal to the "Talmud" as evidence. Big problem there. The Western and Eastern Talmud is dramatically different. Dramatically. Each take different paths to the present. Yet, even Messianic Jews will base their theology on the flawed existence of the Talmud.

Not only this, I could name many more reasons why the historical narrative for Judaism is controlled by unbelief in Jesus Christ.

I must ask, why do some Christians insist upon a Christianity based upon a narrative rooted in Judaism when that narrative is based in unbelief?
Christianity was born out of Judaism ✡️.
Salvation is of the Jews ✡️. Doesn't sound like unbelief to me or to Adonai.
Shalom
 
Judaism isn't "messy," it's apostate.

They've moved from the Tanach to the Talmud.
 
Your response show how very little you know about Judaism ✡️. So you are reading and owning a Bible written by Jews ✡️ initially for Jews in the land of the Jews ✡️ Isra'el.
Give me a break.
Shalom
 
Sure, real Judaism is just Christianity.

Any true Jew has accepted God's new Torah in Christ.
 
No, real Judaism is Messianic Judaism and Messianic Judaism is not Christianity. The Torah in the Tanakh is the foundation of the Messianic faith on which the B'rit Hadashah
Is built.
Shalom
 
Name one then...

A follower of Christ is by definition a Christian.

People who reject the label for stupid reasons have no logical basis.
 
I suppose Christians don't rebell against Adonai? The Jews are God's chosen people.
Shalom
To be clear, Hebrews are the physical descendants of Abraham. As such, they have a direct chain of faith throughout generations to Abraham. However, this doesn't indicate that all Hebrews are Jews. Jews come from faithful acceptance of the God Abraham served. Many Hebrews rejected God.
 
Christianity was born out of Christ. That is why His name is used in the very word Christian. Suffering as a Christian is honor to Christ alone.
No Christianity was born out of Judaism.
The first church was Messianic Jewish ✡️
The apostles and disciples were Messianic
Jewish. You Gentiles came later and over time stripped the Jewishness from the Gospel.
Shalom
 
No Christianity was born out of Judaism.
The first church was Messianic Jewish ✡️
The apostles and disciples were Messianic
Jewish. You Gentiles came later and over time stripped the Jewishness from the Gospel.
Shalom
The sign of the prophet of Jonah was left...

Luk 11:32 The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
 
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