How we got our Bible

[e v e]

Do you believe God preserved his Word in these manuscripts?

Getting you to answer yes or no is like pulling teeth.

Maybe someday civic will stop covering it over.

No I don't believe so.

Many were rearranged, altered, misinterpreted, left out, and added to , as biblical scholars admit.

The preservation topic is an invention of men.
His words are alive in His souls who hear Him...
not as pieces of paper ruled over
many times by academic 'experts' and pharisees.

 

[e v e]

you never have asked me that specific question
so there was never any pulling teeth...

 

[e v e]

According to, Hebrew 4:12, “the word of God is alive and active. The description of the Bible as “living” means that it has a vital power inherent to itself. Jesus likened the Word of God to seed in Mathew 13. Seed, like the Bible, is not dead, but living, and it has the ability to bring forth more life abundantly.

the Word of God is a being
not a piece of paper.

His words He spoke
were interpreted and written down

 

[e v e]

Do you believe God preserved his Word in these manuscripts?

Getting you to answer yes or no is like pulling teeth.

Maybe someday civic will stop covering it over.

Civic is simply not mean ---
even when I can tell he doesn't agree with me....
he is kind and doesn't throw rocks at me..

Christ will be the judge not you
and not civic.

 

[GeneZ]

Do you believe God preserved his Word in these manuscripts?

Getting you to answer yes or no is like pulling teeth.

Maybe someday civic will stop covering it over.

If God can part the waters, and later calm the storm. A storm that made veteran fishermen scared out of their minds?

I am pretty sure He can make sure to keep the most important thing he says we can have in life, intact.

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road
that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate
and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13-14


God will raise up only a few who can do the job right, while many others on the broad and wide road will end up destroying what God wanted us to have.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

No.... everyone recognizes the cultural and geographical origins of Christianity, it is not some great mystery that blows our minds.

With that mindset you will think you found some special thing that preempts all the hard work done in studying Christian origins.

The Eastern Orthodox are just one of many branches of Christianity, they are not any different and closer to the truth.



This is just factually incorrect. And used by a lot of snake oil spiritual salesman, like the author of the Passion Translation.

The Bible was written in many languages since the time of Christ, and comes to us in Hebrew, a little Aramaic, and Greek.

There is not some super secret Aramaic version that is way closer to the original that everyone has somehow missed.

The point was not that there is some "secret history". The point is that most Christians (and non-Christians) in the west have a very myopic view of the spread of Christianity. After all, Acts presents the early history mainly traveling west through Turkey to Rome. However, there is an entire history of Christianity spreading to the east at the same time. If you were aware of this, great. I was never exposed to this information and I am quite confident most Christians in the west are not either. btw. Eastern Orthodox is not the main form of "eastern" Christianity of that early period.

The New Testament text in various languages used during the very early years is not just in Greek. Again, the point is NOT that there is some "super secret" version. It is a fact that during the early Christian period both Greek and Aramaic were used by Christians. The lingua franca of Rome was Greek and the New Testament in Greek went west. But the lingua franca of the east, Judea, Syria, the Parthian empire and further, was Aramaic. The New Testament in Aramaic was in use within the lifetimes of the apostles traveling east beyond Babylon, into India and then later into China. That is simply an historical fact.

That is not to get into an argument of which came first. That is not the point. The point is what Bible was in use at the time. And this is not some secret history either. It just isn't well known or commonly talked about.

 

[e v e]

Also civic is a gentleman...
he and I do not speak personally
but only in this capacity you see,
as a public forum..
therefore, I don't know anything about
'covering it over'
what does that even mean
since I already know
when he doesn't agree with something I say.

anyway, there is nothing to cover over.

its just your judgments...and opinions
which are void about me
since you cannot judge me.

 

[e v e]

many others on the broad and wide road will end up destroying what God wanted us to have.

they try to, true, but will fail.
God's sons will have what He wants for them
very soon.

 

[GeneZ]

unfortunately most of the scribes were of
esau
writing the corrupt version on purpose

Those who are led of the Spirit.... And, if they endure? God will lead them to still waters.

Satan is the originator of 'cancel culture.' That is why only a few will preserve what is needed for the few who hear.
Only a few are needed.....


What constitutes truth is not the winner of a popularity contest.

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For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. ​

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Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number ​

of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." 2 Timothy 4:3​

The majority voice will cast the losing votes.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

Christianity is not an "eastern religion." Its from wherever the strongest number of Spirit filled believers are to be found today.

God may have chose to hatch the egg in the east, but them chickens are now to be found everywhere.

God in his omnipresence has no location.

Actually it is - in origin. Jesus was Jewish. The Old Testament is a Jewish text. The New Testament is from a Jewish mindset from all of the writers. I'm surprised that I actually am writing this. It's seems so obvious. Unless and only if one properly understands the cultural context of Scripture, one will not truly understand the complete message.

 

[e v e]

The majority voice will cast the losing votes.

well i'm relieved to hear that
since I am very much alone

 

[GeneZ]

No I don't believe so.

Many were rearranged, altered, misinterpreted, left out, and added to , as biblical scholars admit.

The preservation topic is an invention of men.
His words are alive in His souls who hear Him...
not as pieces of paper ruled over
many times by academic 'experts' and pharisees.

You don't know enough. God has a few.

Your emotions are dictating your fears into reality for you.

God can surprise you, and you would rejoice to find out you were wrong.

 

[e v e]

Actually it is - in origin. Jesus was Jewish. The Old Testament is a Jewish text. The New Testament is from a Jewish mindset from all of the writers. I'm surprised that I actually am writing this. It's seems so obvious. Unless and only if one properly understands the cultural context of Scripture, one will not truly understand the complete message.

The editor of the jewish encyclopedia (multi vol. *encyclopedia judaica), himself jewish, was quite clear that jewish and hebrew are not synonyms and that the israelites were not jewish.
*1925 encyclopedia judaica, Vol. 5 page 41

I provided quotes of this by him on another
forum.

Christ is not jewish. judaism rejects christ.

sure... esau translates that into his own versions of scripture. bad translation of what God says.

 

[e v e]

the Nature of Christ is not of a
natural man race upon this earth.

 

[e v e]

You don't know enough. God has a few.

Your emotions are dictating your fears into reality for you.

God can surprise you, and you would rejoice to find out you were wrong.

of course He has a few. But many are pharisees.

 

[Dizerner]

you never have asked me that specific question
so there was never any pulling teeth...

I did ask you here:

https://berean-apologetics.boards.net/thread/6/god-author-evil?page=2

Your response was, and I quote:

Aug 6, 2022 at 1:46am
Post by e v e on Aug 6, 2022 at 1:46am

what an ugly harsh attitude .

do not talk to me .

And that is not like pulling teeth?

Maybe one day you will stop lying about me.


I also asked you way back on Carm, but Carm has deleted the majority of my posts so I can't prove it.

 

[civic]

ok c'mon if we can't talk nice then maybe its better to ignore each other. there is no need for any name calling.

 

[e v e]

I did ask you here:

https://berean-apologetics.boards.net/thread/6/god-author-evil?page=2

Your response was, and I quote:




And that is not like pulling teeth?

Maybe one day you will stop lying about me.


I also asked you way back on Carm, but Carm has deleted the majority of my posts so I can't prove it.

thanks for reminding me of that.

yes because when i feel a mean or harsh
attitude towards me, I wont reply. It was not
from not replying in itself.

also i don't lie about you?

Why on earth anyway would I?

I simply did not remember that exchange..

 

[e v e]

You don't know enough. God has a few.

Your emotions are dictating your fears into reality for you.

God can surprise you, and you would rejoice to find out you were wrong.

He has surprised me so very much over the years...
and been so very sweet to me.

 

[Eleazar]

I love to study history. I've been so fortunate to grow up where so much information about history is available. I can't think of one part of a history that doesn't interest me. After 9/11 I did a two years in depth study on Islam. I studied Mormonism in great detail. Biblical history fascinates me. I think I have a pretty good understanding of how we got our Modern Day Bible. But with all that said what's more important to me is learning how to study my Bible. How to discover, apply and enjoy God's word in my daily life.

Every house needs to be constructed on a solid foundation, if it is going to stand strong during adverse conditions. Likewise, Christians who build their lives upon the solid rock of God’s Word, will have the strength needed to weather all of life’s storms. I love breaking down the book of Proverbs into one chapter per day.

With very little effort, great riches are ours to discover and keep, as we carefully sift through the Word of God each day. With access to such great spiritual treasure, we can relate to the words the psalmist wrote in Psalm 119:162 I rejoice at Your word as one who finds great spoil.

And Psalm 119:105 - Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path