Jesus has 1 religion, not hundreds that claim to be Christian. Most are branches off( 2 Thess 2:3= catholicism.
The Greek word in Revelation translates-congregation, not Church.
How do the unsaved suffer forever in hell without the Tree of Life?
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The Greek word in Revelation translates-congregation, not Church.
charismaticlady
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Christianity should not be considered a religion, but a relationship with God. 2 Thess 2:3 is not catholicism. It was the first of many denominations all twisting the words of the apostles. It is best to go back and study the words of the Apostles, the Truth.
Are you Preterist?
Jesus brought the truth. they kick me out of trinity sights for sharing them.
One must be taught, to learn truth in Jesus 1 religion--headed by these-Matt 24:45--
e v e
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the ‘multitude in white’ are our Originals
in the other reality
whom God calls His flock
and will have rescued from mystery-Babylon (in the other reality)
and who will arrive in tsiun
(in the other reality)
the 144000 are on this earth
and will meet Christ on the clouds
and be reunited to their Original
their body made by God..
which is not this one
(and neither for that matter is this
current physicality or world [=earth] His)
for, as Christ explains the world hates
us and hates Him and He is not from here
(and nor is His eden paradise on this earth
and never was on this earth)
the most common word for world
is a cosmological earth..
a land
and not system..
for that is esau's ridiculous
and intentional corruption
No bible teaches what you say
charismaticlady
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What type of sin are you talking about. There are two types you know.
360watt
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Any kind of sin, a believer can fall into, because they are imperfect.
charismaticlady
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What type of sin is 1 John 3:9 speaking of? That chapter, when you know how God has viewed sin for the past 3,500 years, and not how the Reformation confused us with their "sin is sin" theory lumping all sin together, leaves no room to add to the word of God by adding the word "practice." So read the chapter carefully knowing God views two types of sin. This chapter is about the worst type that when Jesus takes it out of our nature leaves a Christian truly righteous with a clean nature, and not just covered with imputed righeousness as some denominations teach as God gave to Abraham before the Law. What is it? John knew the difference. Think about it. It is also the difference between a Christian who is righteous, and one who is holy. Rev. 22:11
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e v e
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i think here you meant the soul is the sealed sweet part belonging to Him and the flesh body is not.
so true...
e v e
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well we are in this physical sin type nature. This earth and its animal nature... and not anymore our eden nature in paradise with Christ .
before when we were with Christ in eden
is the return we want.. and that moses
and all His souls want. to be back in eden Nature with God and to leave this death realm.
and never remember it again
e v e
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desire is an intrinsic part of a nature..
a soul of Him desires all of His reality and nature...
a flesh body of course wants this evil earth
and its needs and wants to be filled
when we are free of this ape body
and He gives us again our original
eden nature, then yes the flesh
nature will be gone.
the flesh nature is this body, this sky, this earth
and these substandard five senses.
we are in the sin realm
e v e
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360watt
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Yeah.. in the flesh we are imperfect beings but as believers have a regenerated soul.
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charismaticlady
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You didn't respond to my post #48. But I will teach you here. Of the two kinds of sin there is one that we CANNOT commit if we are a born again Christian and not just someone who goes to church but still desires to commit adultery or lie and steal, etc.. The reason is because Jesus as the Author of our faith takes away the desire to commit this type of sin which makes us righteous when we experience being born again of the Spirit. The name of this sin is lawlessness, and breaking a commandment of God is a "sin unto death." Ask yourself if you really are born again. It is not a given. It is a life changing experience.
The other type of sin we WILL commit while we are immature in any of the fruit of the Spirit. They are called "sins not unto death." Overcoming these sins is a process, but when Jesus is finished and we are mature in all of the fruit of the Spirit we are holy. And, yes, in this lifetime. Something a doctrines of demons teach is impossible. Have you heard that doctrine of defeatism? If so, study the Bible on your own like I did and pray that the Spirit of Truth reveal the true meaning of Scripture not preached in that church and many others.
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e v e
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true, eden souls are not apes
the flesh here
its a flesh of this fallen reality
sharing most of its dna with apes.
360watt
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Pure works based salvation.
atpollard
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1 John 1:5-10 [NASB]
This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him and [yet] walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
1 John 3:4-10 [NASB] Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. No one who remains in Him sins [continually;] no one who sins [continually] has seen Him or knows Him. Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who has been born of God practices sin, because His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin [continually,] because he has been born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother [and sister.]
1 John 3:9 is talking about this type of sin: walking in darkness and claiming that we have no sin.
atpollard
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Q. “How do the unsaved suffer forever in hell without the Tree of Life?”
A.the Second Death!
Luke 16:22-24 [NASB]
"Now it happened that the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham's arms; and the rich man also died and was buried. "And in Hades he raised his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his arms. "And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus, so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.'
Revelation 21:6-8 [NASB]
Then He said to me, "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give [water] to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life, without cost. The one who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part [will be] in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
A.the Second Death!
Luke 16:22-24 [NASB]
"Now it happened that the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham's arms; and the rich man also died and was buried. "And in Hades he raised his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his arms. "And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus, so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.'
Revelation 21:6-8 [NASB]
Then He said to me, "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give [water] to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life, without cost. The one who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part [will be] in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
charismaticlady
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How do you figure? Works is going against your nature to complete a law. But if Jesus has changed your desire to righteousness there is no struggle to walk in the Spirit. You have a clean nature. So your reasoning is way off. Why? Is keeping the commandments hard for you making it a work? Only someone who is not born again of the Spirit would struggle to keep the commandments of God.
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