Heresies, sects, factions,divisions , contention, discord

[JLB]

Let us=Jehovah( the creator=HE of Gen 1:27) and his master worker( one who worked not created)= Jesus.

The word for LORD in the Old Testament is YHWH. NOT Jehovah.

Jehovah is a man made word that came about in the 13th Century.

Moses would not have used this word. The writers of the New Testament would have never heard of this word since it was first used in the 13th Century.


Now, if you would please answer my question.


Do you believe God (Elohim) is a singular or plural word?

 

[JLB]

From Hebrew to English it means-the supreme one for the true living God. Nothing plural about it for the true living God.

Elohim is indeed a plural word.

Plural of H433 - ĕlôha

 

[civic]

99% minimum are being mislead. Few obey Jesus, they give him lip service yet know little of what he actually teaches. 99% of all religion is false.

you will know them by their fruits.

 

[Keiw1]

Genesis 1:26 is the same Elohim in verse 27

All THREE are "HE"

You are just adding that unreality out of false reasoning.

 

[Keiw1]

Here are the THREE "HE" from Genesis 1:26-27

“If you love Me/HE, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father/HE, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

billions of men are called HE. That doesn't make them God. Nor when the bible teaches the true followers will be one with the Father and son, it doesn't make us either one of them just as it doesnt make Jesus the Father being one with him .

 

[Keiw1]

The word for LORD in the Old Testament is YHWH. NOT Jehovah.

Jehovah is a man made word that came about in the 13th Century.

Moses would not have used this word. The writers of the New Testament would have never heard of this word since it was first used in the 13th Century.


Now, if you would please answer my question.


Do you believe God (Elohim) is a singular or plural word?

Jehovah is the latin version of YHWH.--Jehovah made his name known.

 

[Keiw1]

Elohim is indeed a plural word.

Plural of H433 - ĕlôha




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Elohim can be plural-but in Hebrew it is not plural for the true living God. That is fact.

 

[Keiw1]

you will know them by their fruits.

Yes a true mark along with this true mark-1Cor 1:10= unity of thought, no division)= 1 religion, not hundreds.--leaves trinity based religions out.
Lets apply that love amongst themselves when it counts= When wicked men( govts) tell the supposed brothers in Christ to stand on both sides of the wars of hatred blowing each others heads off as the trinity religions participated in( rev war, civil war, ww1, ww2) catholic vs catholic-luteran vs luteran, etc,etc-- where the ones who have love for one another said-never, we will go to prison or in the concentration camps before we ever did that. Actions prove love over words.

 

[JLB]

Jehovah is the latin version of YHWH.--Jehovah made his name known.

Again Jehovah is a man made word that started to be used in the late 1300’s.

Moses or any other person that the Holy Spirit used to write scripture would have never used that name.


Jews today call it a mistranslation and a perversion of YHWH.


Jehovah means Lord of wickedness; ruin.

Yah = Lord H3050

hovah = ruin disaster; wickedness

 

[JLB]

Elohim can be plural-but in Hebrew it is not plural for the true living God. That is fact.

In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1


Elohim created the heavens and the earth.

 

[Keiw1]

Again Jehovah is a man made word that started to be used in the late 1300’s.

Moses or any other person that the Holy Spirit used to write scripture would have never used that name.


Jews today call it a mistranslation and a perversion of YHWH.


Jehovah means Lord of wickedness; ruin.

Yah = Lord H3050

hovah = ruin disaster; wickedness


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A mislead man claims to have made up Gods name= a dillusion.

 

[Keiw1]

In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1


Elohim created the heavens and the earth.

God created the heavens and the Earth--Elohim is not at Gen 1:1--thus Gen 1:27 and Prov 8:27-28= HE( not we) created. 100% bible truth that cannot be denied.

 

[DavidTree]

You are just adding that unreality out of false reasoning.

How so?
please explain Genesis 1:26 = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness"

 

[Keiw1]

How so?
please explain Genesis 1:26 = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness"

I did explain it--Gen 1:27=He created, not us or we created.
Us= HE(Jehovah) and his master worker( Prov 8:30= the one who was beside God during creation=Jesus. Jesus worked, Jehovah created.

 

[DavidTree]

I did explain it--Gen 1:27=He created, not us or we created.
Us= HE(Jehovah) and his master worker( Prov 8:30= the one who was beside God during creation=Jesus. Jesus worked, Jehovah created.

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or [e]principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

 

[Titus]

I did explain it--Gen 1:27=He created, not us or we created.
Us= HE(Jehovah) and his master worker( Prov 8:30= the one who was beside God during creation=Jesus. Jesus worked, Jehovah created.

Acts 26:14,
- and when we had fallen to the ground I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew language Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me, It is hard for you to kick against the pricks

 

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Subject Heading:- Heresies, sects, factions,divisions , contention, discord

Lexicon
hairesis: Sect, faction, heresy
Original Word: αἵρεσις
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: hairesis
Pronunciation: hah'-ee-res-is
Phonetic Spelling: (hah'-ee-res-is)
Definition: Sect, faction, heresy
Meaning: a self-chosen opinion, a religious or philosophical sect, discord or contention.

In the New Testament, αἵρεσις is used to describe groups or factions, particularly those that deviate from orthodox teachings. It is often translated as "sect" or "heresy."

Context: The term αἵρεσις appears several times in the New Testament, reflecting its evolution from a neutral term for a choice or party to a more negative connotation of division or heretical group. In the context of the early Christian church, αἵρεσις was used to describe groups that held beliefs contrary to the apostolic teachings.

- Acts 5:17 (BSB): "Then the high priest and all his associates, who belonged to the party of the Sadducees, were filled with jealousy." Here, αἵρεσις is translated as "party," referring to the Sadducees as a distinct group within Judaism.

- Acts 24:5 (BSB): "We have found this man to be a pestilent fellow, an agitator among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes." In this passage, αἵρεσις is translated as "sect," indicating the early Christians as a distinct group perceived as divergent from mainstream Judaism.

- 1 Corinthians 11:19 (BSB): "And indeed, there must be differences among you to show which of you are approved." The word here implies divisions or factions within the church, highlighting the presence of differing beliefs or practices.

- Galatians 5:20 (BSB): "idolatry and sorcery; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions." In this list of works of the flesh, αἵρεσις is translated as "factions," indicating divisive groups within the community.

- 2 Peter 2:1 (BSB): "Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies that will even deny the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves." Here, αἵρεσις is translated as "heresies," referring to false teachings that lead believers astray.

The use of αἵρεσις in the New Testament underscores the early church's struggle with maintaining doctrinal purity and unity. It serves as a warning against the dangers of false teachings and the importance of adhering to the true gospel.

hope this helps !!!

'But this I confess unto thee,
that after the way which they call heresy,
so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
And have hope toward God,
which they themselves also allow,
that there shall be a resurrection of the dead,
both of the just and unjust.
And herein do I exercise myself,
to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.
Now after many years I came to bring alms to my nation, and offerings.
Whereupon certain Jews from Asia found me purified in the temple,
neither with multitude, nor with tumult.
Who ought to have been here before thee, and object, if they had ought against me.
Or else let these same here say, if they have found any evil doing in me,
while I stood before the council,
Except it be for this one voice, that I cried standing among them,
Touching the resurrection of the dead I am called in question by you this day. '
(Act 24:14-21)

Hello @civic,

Paul sought to always have 'a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men', yet he was accused of heresy by the religious leaders of his day, even though they also believed in the resurrection of the just and the unjust, they still brought accusation against him 'touching the resurrection of the dead'.

I have been reading through Colossians today, in which Paul warns the Colossians to 'Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him, which is the Head of all principality and power.' (Col. 2:8-10)

We are told in Ephesians 4, to endeavour to keep 'the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace'. That peace being that which Christ procured by nailing to the cross all that prevented unity and peace among brethren (Eph. 2:14-15). In the form of ordinances . For we are 'complete' in Christ, wanting nothing. Yet many of the issues which divide believers in the Lord Jesus Christ are ordinances in one form or another, taken up and made imperative, within one denomination or another: such as baptisms, communion, the keeping of days etc., Surely if we are to 'keep' the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace, we should all be coming together in Christ Jesus, with no added requisites to cause division.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[civic]

'But this I confess unto thee,
that after the way which they call heresy,
so worship I the God of my fathers,
believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
And have hope toward God,
which they themselves also allow,
that there shall be a resurrection of the dead,
both of the just and unjust.
And herein do I exercise myself,
to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.
Now after many years I came to bring alms to my nation, and offerings.
Whereupon certain Jews from Asia found me purified in the temple,
neither with multitude, nor with tumult.
Who ought to have been here before thee, and object, if they had ought against me.
Or else let these same here say, if they have found any evil doing in me,
while I stood before the council,
Except it be for this one voice, that I cried standing among them,
Touching the resurrection of the dead I am called in question by you this day. '
(Act 24:14-21)

Hello @civic,

Paul sought to always have 'a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men', yet he was accused of heresy by the religious leaders of his day, even though they also believed in the resurrection of the just and the unjust, they still brought accusation against him 'touching the resurrection of the dead'.

I have been reading through Colossians today, in which Paul warns the Colossians to 'Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him, which is the Head of all principality and power.' (Col. 2:8-10)

We are told in Ephesians 4, to endeavour to keep 'the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace'. That peace being that which Christ procured by nailing to the cross all that prevented unity and peace among brethren. In the form of ordinances. For we are 'complete' in Christ, wanting nothing. Yet many of the issues which divide believers in the Lord Jesus Christ are ordinances in one form or another, taken up and made imperative, within one denomination or another: such as baptisms, communion, the keeping of days etc., Surely if we are to 'keep' the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace, we should all be coming together in Christ Jesus, with no added requisites to cause division.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Great passages thanks for sharing them. Besides the obvious heresies like rejecting the deity of Christ or the Trinity the more subtle ones are around the simplicity of the gospel and adding/taking away from its message and the legalism that some of the self righteous will add to the gospel and questions the salvation of others and their standing before and in Christ.

And there is a big difference between obeying Christ out of love for Him and out of fear and duty with the law, regulation, stipulations, lording over others etc.... Paul combated this many times in his epistles. The fear and duty side leads to losing ones salvation while the love/obedience side leads to ones security in Christ- living in the spirit, bearing the fruit of the spirit, walking in the spirit, not quenching the spirit etc.....

 

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Great passages thanks for sharing them. Besides the obvious heresies like rejecting the deity of Christ or the Trinity the more subtle ones are around the simplicity of the gospel and adding/taking away from its message and the legalism that some of the self righteous will add to the gospel and questions the salvation of others and their standing before and in Christ.

And there is a big difference between obeying Christ out of love for Him and out of fear and duty with the law, regulation, stipulations, lording over others etc.... Paul combated this many times in his epistles. The fear and duty side leads to losing ones salvation while the love/obedience side leads to ones security in Christ.

'For our rejoicing is this,
the testimony of our conscience,
that in simplicity and godly sincerity,
not with fleshly wisdom,
but by the grace of God,
we have had our conversation in the world,
and more abundantly to you-ward.'
(2Cor. 1:12)

Hi @civic,

'The Deity of Christ', 'The Trinity'. 'The simplicity of the gospel of the grace of God', 'legalism', 'the security of the believers standing before God, in Christ Jesus'. That is quite a list you have given, which highlights the areas which are most in the line of attack, and in need of defence.

Paul was so desirous that those under his care, should have 'full assurance of understanding' (Col. 2:1-3), that 'their hearts may be comforted', 'being knit together in love' (Col. 2:2-4) The fear being 'lest any man should beguile you with enticing words'. This 'full assurance of understanding' coming with maturity, how important it is to not remain a 'babe' in Christ, but to let the word of God abide in us richly, that we may come, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; in Whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' For that knowledge is what brings assurance, and defends us against all attacks of the enemy.

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[civic]

'For our rejoicing is this,
the testimony of our conscience,
that in simplicity and godly sincerity,
not with fleshly wisdom,
but by the grace of God,
we have had our conversation in the world,
and more abundantly to you-ward.'
(2Cor. 1:12)

Hi @civic,

'The Deity of Christ', 'The Trinity'. 'The simplicity of the gospel of the grace of God', 'legalism', 'the security of the believers standing before God, in Christ Jesus'. That is quite a list you have given, which highlights the areas which are most in the line of attack, and in need of defence.

Paul was so desirous that those under his care, should have 'full assurance of understanding' (Col. 2:1-3), that 'their hearts may be comforted', 'being knit together in love' (Col. 2:2-4) The fear being 'lest any man should beguile you with enticing words'. This 'full assurance of understanding' coming with maturity, how important it is to not remain a 'babe' in Christ, but to let the word of God abide in us richly, that we may come, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; in Whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' For that knowledge is what brings assurance, and defends us against all attacks of the enemy.

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Amen !