Again we have a one-verse unitarian who disregards John 17:5
Heresies, sects, factions,divisions , contention, discord
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Yes Jesus deserves honor, But he is not God. Jesus is doing Gods will 24/7-365--Obeying Jesus( action) proves the honor to him. Lip service does little.
Gen 1:27=HE created--proving 100% your religions twist 1:26 into something it is not.
John 17 is very good to know= Jesus in prayer to his Father in heaven-verse 3 teaches the one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--Verse 6=YHVH(Jehovah) verse 26=YHVH(Jehovah) and yes verse 5= all spirit beings were created prior to the creation of the world. And since YHVH(Jehovah) created all other things THROUGH Jesus( John 1:3,Col 1:16) he had honor alongside his God and Father as his master worker( Prov 8:30)= the one who was beside God during the creation of the world. Prov 8:22( possessed me= created me as the beginning of your way( creating)= The Master worker( Jesus) created direct, first and last=only begotten( monogenes= unique)= Let us( Gen 1:26)= Jehovah) and his master worker) make man in (our image) = WE, but Gen 1:27( prov 8:27-28) assures only HE created, not we)--One must apply the whole bible to get truth.
I cannot follow this. It seems like everything got jumbled together like in a blender.
DavidTree
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HIS HE HE = 3x = THREE
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DavidTree
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You only mentioned one "He" when there are THREE in Genesis 1:27 = SAME as in 1:26
Genesis 1:26 - "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness" = Elohim/Plural 3x Spoken
Genesis 1:27 - "So Elohim/Plural created man in His own image; in the image of Elohim/Plural He created him; male and female He created them. = 3x Spoken
Elohenu Avraham , Elohenu Yitzach , Elohenu Yakov 3x Spoken with Direct Allegorical Persons = FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT
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Tothalordbeallglory
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Many , however do not accept the truth . Rather they make claim their wonderous pastors or highly held doctrine
is just too spiritual for us to understand .
Kinda simple if ya ask me . I mean we know what IT SAYS
but tis they who through wise so called spiritual learning CONTRADICT it .
SO i have a real simple and easy suggestion .
No matter what one says and lips , no matter how they claim hermes
exegisis , spiritual this or that
IF THEY WORDS are contradicting WHAT as very PLAINLY written
WELL no matter how well sounded they present their case
THIS SHEEP HEEDS NOT A WORD ONE outta they lips .
Cause all they are doing is TWISTING things TO FIT MENS DOCTRINES and cliamin
THUS SAYETH THE LORD while doing it .
Tothalordbeallglory
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wanna real simple example as to PROVE who is hearing the truth .
Look at how simple this was written .
And the WORD was GOD . Would you like to know what this means .
AND i wont have to persaude you with greek AS THEY OFTEN DO
or hermes , or cliam I have great and mighty spiritual knowledge that many cannot yet grasp .
SO
Would you like to know what that means .
EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS . AND THE WORD WAS GOD . quite simple IF YA ASK ME .
Its simple to understand.
He=1 not 3--we or us = 3
twisting into darkness. Its what the house divided( hundreds of trinity religions teach) will not stand teach.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” Genesis 1:26
Do you believe the pronouns of Us and Our refer to one or more than one Person?
Do you believe God (Elohim) is a singular or plural word?
DavidTree
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Is not the Lord Jesus "HE"
And Jesus/He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
The FATHER is "He" also = "God is Spirit, so those who worship Him"
The Holy Spirit is "He" also = "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth."
The THREE "HE" of Genesis 1:26 & 1:27
He for Jesus= the Messiah----He for Gen 1:27= Jehovah. He for you = Davidtree. Many are called He.
DavidTree
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DavidTree
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Here are the THREE "HE" from Genesis 1:26-27
“If you love Me/HE, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father/HE, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
