God The Holy Spirit

[Liam]

Alone by Himself means the trinity is false. If God were a trinity it would say "Alone by themselves", at the minimum, but the Bible never says that; no, not once.

It does say

"26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Who was He talking to? look at vs.27. It went from our image (Three) back to one. Three in one, The trinity.

The we talking to each other only... alone. Only the Triune God could create man.

 

[Nannette]

Alone by Himself means the trinity is false. If God were a trinity it would say "Alone by themselves", at the minimum, but the Bible never says that; no, not once.

If believing false doctrine makes you happy

False doctrines are teachings that contradict or misrepresent biblical truth. The Bible warns against false teachings and teachers, emphasizing the importance of discerning truth from error and adhering to sound doctrine. Scripture provides tests for identifying false doctrines, including examining the fruit of a teacher's life, their adherence to sound doctrine, their submission to Scripture, and their teaching of the gospel of grace.

 

[Runningman]

If believing false doctrine makes you happy

False doctrines are teachings that contradict or misrepresent biblical truth. The Bible warns against false teachings and teachers, emphasizing the importance of discerning truth from error and adhering to sound doctrine. Scripture provides tests for identifying false doctrines, including examining the fruit of a teacher's life, their adherence to sound doctrine, their submission to Scripture, and their teaching of the gospel of grace.

The doctrine of the trinity is not stated in the Bible. What you have done to get the doctrine is take verses from the Bible, add some things to it, and said "there's the trinity" but that isn't the conclusion the Bible provided. I believe in just sticking with what the Bible says.

 

[Runningman]

It does say

"26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Who was He talking to? look at vs.27. It went from our image (Three) back to one. Three in one, The trinity.

The we talking to each other only... alone. Only the Triune God could create man.

It is a theological assumption to read a trinity into "us" or "our" since "three persons who are God" are not said to be who God is in the Bible. As inconvenient as that is for Trinitarianism, it is a reality that you all must accept.

Here's a question. If the "us" and "our" is the trinity, and those are plural pronouns, then why did they never call God a they or them in literally the entire Bible? The "us" and "our" God is with isn't the trinity. When God said "Lut us make man in our image" it is in the sense of solidarity and agreement rather than literally all of those present actually participating in creation, i.e., YHWH said "I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who by Myself spread out the earth..."

This is why you will not find anything about Jesus or Son of God being the Creator anywhere in the Bible as well. There is simply just the Father, who is YHWH, who is the Creator.

 

[Liam]

It is a theological assumption to read a trinity into "us" or "our" since "three persons who are God" are not said to be who God is in the Bible. As inconvenient as that is for Trinitarianism, it is a reality that you all must accept.

Here's a question. If the "us" and "our" is the trinity, and those are plural pronouns, then why did they never call God a they or them in literally the entire Bible? The "us" and "our" God is with isn't the trinity. When God said "Lut us make man in our image" it is in the sense of solidarity and agreement rather than literally all of those present actually participating in creation, i.e., YHWH said "I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who by Myself spread out the earth..."

This is why you will not find anything about Jesus or Son of God being the Creator anywhere in the Bible as well. There is simply just the Father, who is YHWH, who is the Creator.

who by Myself is the Triune God "Three in one"
Jesus in Creation:
John 1:3
Verse Concepts
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

John 1:10
Verse Concepts
He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

1 Corinthians 8:6
Verse Concepts
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Colossians 1:16
Verse Concepts
For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.

Hebrews 1:2
Verse Concepts
in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Christ~s-Role-In-Creation

 

[Scott]

The doctrine of the Trinity is also of great importance because it is intimately connected with the Christian’s salvation. Traditionally, Christians have believed that salvation, involving forgiveness of sin and reception of new life, is possible because the second person of the Godhead took on human form without giving up his deity.

In this incarnate form he bore the sins of humans as their substitute. So he was able to present to the Father the perfect sacrifice for human sin, on the basis of which the Father then forgave their sins and the Holy Spirit conferred new life. If the doctrine of the Trinity is not true, then the understanding of salvation must be modified.

 

[101G]

It does say

"26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Who was He talking to? look at vs.27. It went from our image (Three) back to one. Three in one, The trinity.

The we talking to each other only... alone. Only the Triune God could create man.

Greeting. what if the Lord Jesus say that God.... IN THE BEGINNING is "ONE" person, would you believe the Lord Jesus, yes or no?

101G.

 

[Believe]

If the holy Spirit is not part of the Godhead, then who is He?

 

[Believe]

Greeting. what if the Lord Jesus say that God.... IN THE BEGINNING is "ONE" person, would you believe the Lord Jesus, yes or no?

101G.

What beginning are we talking about. God has no beginning and no end.

The concept that "God has no beginning and no end" is a core belief in many religions, particularly monotheistic faiths like Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. This idea is often expressed as God's eternity, emphasizing that He is not bound by time and has always existed and will always exist.

This contrasts with the finite nature of created beings and the universe itself, which are understood to have had a beginning.
Or this last one?

 

[Runningman]

who by Myself is the Triune God "Three in one"
Jesus in Creation:
John 1:3
Verse Concepts
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

John 1:10
Verse Concepts
He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

1 Corinthians 8:6
Verse Concepts
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Colossians 1:16
Verse Concepts
For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.

Hebrews 1:2
Verse Concepts
in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Christ~s-Role-In-Creation

That's not how singular pronouns are used throughout the Bible, history, or the present day. With 100% consistency, singular pronouns refer to singular persons. Provided that God is just one person (John 17:3, 1 Cor. 8:4-6, Eph. 4:6, etc) then there is no consistency issue at all in Scripture with the only God being the Father. Trinitarianism will have a difficult time changing the established norms and nuances of words.

This also makes trinitarianism unintuitive, confusing, and an incomprehensible mystery, which is something a lot of trinitarian commentaros actually admit to as there are no clear examples of any singular pronoun refering to multople persons or a compound God.

 

[Liam]

That's not how singular pronouns are used throughout the Bible, history, or the present day. With 100% consistency, singular pronouns refer to singular persons. Provided that God is just one person (John 17:3, 1 Cor. 8:4-6, Eph. 4:6, etc) then there is no consistency issue at all in Scripture with the only God being the Father. Trinitarianism will have a difficult time changing the established norms and nuances of words.

This also makes trinitarianism unintuitive, confusing, and an incomprehensible mystery, which is something a lot of trinitarian commentaros actually admit to as there are no clear examples of any singular pronoun refering to multople persons or a compound God.

Works for me. I have never need a singular pronoun. But Our Triune God, I need every second of every day. Not confusing at all.

 

[Runningman]

Works for me. I have never need a singular pronoun. But Our Triune God, I need every second of every day. Not confusing at all.

Oh ok, and I will just stick with who the Bible says God is.