Every symbolic allegory of Christ in the OT?
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Diserner
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Yes! Planning on getting to it...
Diserner
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Lol. The Sanctuary. Start at the door... Then the altar of sacrifice. Then comes the laver for washing... Baptism... Water of life. Inside the first apartment to the right is the table of showbread...bread of life. To the left, the candlestick, the Light of the world. Directly ahead, the altar of incense... Mediator... Intercessor. Beyond the veil is the ark containing the tables of the covenant... The law of God, of which the Son is the personification.
The priesthood itself is a type, as are the feast days types of Christ's ministry... Passover, Pentecost etc.
There is more. But, you asked for a summary, and that's a summary
Nice, good.
Yes, the priestly system is the heaviest typology of all.
Brakelite
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You might like to study the parallels between Esther and the story of Joseph in Egypt. In one Mordecai is the type of Christ, in the other, believe it or not, Judah.
Diserner
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Is this from your own studies or someone else's?
Brakelite
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I heard it in a panel discussion just last night. I will be going over it again some time it was so interesting and intend to take notes.
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Diserner
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Thanks I will check it out.
Currently I very firmly see Esther as the type of Christ.
praise_yeshua
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Maybe. Maybe not. Jesus was/is Impeccable. There was never a chance that He would fail. He shared in our struggles but never our peccability.
The fact Satan tried to get Christ to prove it tells me that he was testing Christ for His own information.
Some believe that Satan knew the prophecies intent but I don't believe Satan did. He sought to make sure the heir of Abraham was killed.
Diserner
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Thanks for this. It gave me a totally new idea of the type here I will post.
Diserner
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Esther, Mordecai and Haman
This one is unusual for two reasons; it seems like a dual type of Christ and the only female type I know of. There is neither male nor female in Christ! Haman representing the devil uses the laws of the king to his own advantage to bring mass genocide to the Jews. Persian King Xerxes will represent the Father here even though ungodly. Mordecai represents the humanity of Christ, and Esther represents the resurrected divine priestly ministry of Christ in the heavenlies. Once the law of the king is out, nothing can undo the law whatsoeverāwhich represents the severity and inflexibility of God's holy judgments, God cannot say "you will surely die" for sin and then show mercy by breaking his own law. Whatever redemption comes must keep the law entirely intact. Once the law is signed, only Esther can deliver the people by enacting a new law that supersedes the old without erasing itāthe new covenant superseding the old. Esther braces her will to be willing to die on behalf of her people, and through her intercession and the favor she wins, she is able to enact this new law, just as Christ won the favor of the Father on our behalf. Now the Jews are empowered to fight and kill all their enemies legally, just as Christians can now overcome the devil's power in Jesus' name, and fight back against sin. Meanwhile, Mordecai had been condemned to death by a jealous Haman because he would not bow as he sat outside the gate with the common peopleājust as Satan was jealous of Christ's glory and attempted to get him to worship him in the wilderness as Christ was incarnated among common humanity. But as the king learned of Mordecai's good deeds on his behalf, so Christ always wins the favor of the Father for being obedient on earth and pouring out his soul unto death. Now, after being condemned by Esther, Haman is exposedājust as Christ spoiled principalities and powers on the Cross. The very gallows that Haman meant to kill Mordecai on, become the means of death for Haman, and he is hanged there. Just as on the Cross, where Satan meant to kill Christ, he actually lost all his own power and fell into the trap that crushed his head, by losing all the authority he had over the fallen human race through condemnation, because now there is no condemnation left for those in Christ Jesus. Then Mordecai is rewarded and honored openly throughout the city, as the human Christ will be glorified by all on the new earth.
Brakelite
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KJV Romans 8:3
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
The child born in Bethlehem was not born without the same heredity of every human being... He was fully man. He had the power of choice.
Satan in heaven had hated Christ for His position in the courts of God. He hated Him the more when he himself was dethroned. He hated Him who pledged Himself to redeem a race of sinners. Yet into the world where Satan claimed dominion God permitted His Son to come, a helpless babe, subject to the weakness of humanity. He permitted Him to meet life's peril in common with every human soul, to fight the battle as every child of humanity must fight it, at the risk of failure and eternal loss.
The heart of the human father yearns over his son. He looks into the face of his little child, and trembles at the thought of life's peril. He longs to shield his dear one from Satan's power, to hold him back from temptation and conflict. To meet a bitterer conflict and a more fearful risk, God gave His only-begotten Son, that the path of life might be made sure for our little ones. "Herein is love." Wonder, O heavens! and be astonished, O earth!
praise_yeshua
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Adam was fully man and sinned. You are fully man and sin. We are peccable. Incapable of ceasing from sin. A righteous man falls seven times and gets back up. We are endless commanded to be kind to one another to FORGIVE one another. We are peccable. Being sinful is more than just having a fleshly body.
Jesus was more than a man. Immortal. Never capable of sin. We have the capacity to sin. Satan has the capacity to sin. Jesus was/is Victorious because He is God. The very idea that Christ could sin is contrary to the Scriptures.
People believe because it makes them feel better about themselves. The "dirty" they see Christ becoming for them, the better they feel about themselves.
Don't get me wrong. He suffered more than any man. However, saying Christ was peccable is contrary to His nature.
I reject your appeal to Satan's relationship to the Son. That is nothing but conjecture.
Diserner
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I disagree.
The Gospel is a lot more than "I have a divine spark of God that is imprisoned in this evil material universe."
The Gospel is that Adam and Eve sinned against God, and since we come from them, they created a race of sinners separated from the life of God.
The Gospel is that we have sinned personally against a holy God and we are constitutionally sinful, not just trapped in something sinful.
We, are evil and sinful ourselves, because in Adam all spiritually die being sold to sin and separated from the spiritual life of God.
What Jesus does to rescue us, is live the perfect live we should have, and then suffer the punishment of our sins, to fulfill God's Law.
That's the heart of the Biblical Gospel that the Holy Spirit witnesses to.
This is not the same thing as some evil person in a past life entrapped us in some kind of evil flesh and Jesus comes to rescue us.
They are fundamentally different Gospels, and only one will bring a soul to heaven: Trusting Jesus to suffer for our sins.
I continue to pray you see this difference with great clarity.
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Diserner
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We should never remove God's attribute of free will.
Jesus was not forced to be righteous apart from his choice.
e v e
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i've never believed in or mentioned past lives/reincarnation in any post on any forum ...
why did that come up for you ?
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e v e
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by His very nature there is nothing in Christ that could be evil or do evil
it would be like asking a deer
to act as an octopus and live under water....
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