Epicenter, Israel

[The Rogue Tomato]

Sure it does try reading about it from the book of revelation which spells out the 7 years.

In Revelation 11 and 12, John mentions 1,260 days in two prophecies concerning another persecution of the Jews during the end times. Daniel 8 speaks of 2,300 days in a prophecyconcerning a persecution of the Jewish people during the intertestamental period. The main differences between these two prophecies are 1) Daniel’s has been fulfilled, and John’s has not; and 2) Daniel predicts the actions of Antiochus Epiphanes, and John predicts those of the Antichrist.

The 1,260-day prophecy is found in two passages in Revelation. First, Revelation 11:2–3says,

“[The Gentiles] will trample on the holy city for 42 months. And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

Then, as part of a symbolic vision, Revelation 12:6 says,

“The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.”

The time period covered, 1,260 days, figures to 42 months, or 3 1/2 years. We believe this prophecy has not yet been fulfilled but will be during the end-times tribulation. The 42 months refers to the reign of the Antichrist, specifically, the last half (3 1/2 years) of the seven-year tribulation. At the beginning of that time, the Antichrist will break his covenant with Israel and set up “the abomination that causes desolation” (Mark 13:14; cf. Daniel 9:27)—an act that links the Antichrist to Antiochus Epiphanes, who similarly defiled the temple. The Antichrist will then turn his attention to the genocide of the Jews. During the persecution, Israel (the woman of Revelation 12) will be protected by God in the wilderness. Also during that troubled time, God will send two witnesses to perform miracles and proclaim the truth of Christ in the face of the Antichrist’s lies (Revelation 11:5–6).

The detailed prophecies contained in God’s Word are part of what makes the Bible unique among religious texts. Our God can “make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come” (Isaiah 46:10), and He has revealed significant events in the future, counting out the very days of those periods of time.got?

Hope this helps !!!

You're talking about 3.5 years and 3.5 years. There's nothing in there that talks about a 7 year tribulation period. In fact it is only speculation that those are two consecutive 3.5 year periods. I happen to believe the two descriptions of 3.5 years cover the same time. But that's interpretation, which you can contest all you want, but what you've given is interpretation. So it's interpretation vs. interpretation. Again, nowhere does the Bible describe a 7 year tribulation period.

 

[civic]

You're talking about 3.5 years and 3.5 years. There's nothing in there that talks about a 7 year tribulation period. In fact it is only speculation that those are two consecutive 3.5 year periods. I happen to believe the two descriptions of 3.5 years cover the same time. But that's interpretation, which you can contest all you want, but what you've given is interpretation. So it's interpretation vs. interpretation. Again, nowhere does the Bible describe a 7 year tribulation period.

The book of revelations is mostly about the 7 years from 4 through 19 describing it in great detail. How many years is 42 months plus 42 months ?

End of discussion

 

[TomL]

The term "7 year tribulation period" was invented to prop up the false notion of a pre-trib rapture. It (and the pre-trib rapture) has no basis in scripture. Indeed, the Bible says we WILL HAVE TRIBULATION, but we are NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH. So even if you are under the mistaken assumption that there will be a 7 year period of tribulation, the fact that we are spared WRATH, NOT TRIBULATION proves there is no pre-trib rapture.

Here is Daniel's description of tribulation:

12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then.

That is the GREAT TRIBULATION spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24. How long will it last?

The elect are not snatched away here in a pre trib rapture

Matthew 24:15–22 (NASB 2020) — 15 “Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place—let the reader understand—16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17 Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get things out of his house. 18 And whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19 But woe to those women who are pregnant, and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 Moreover, pray that when you flee, it will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21 For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will again. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.


And it transpired 2000 years ago in 70 A.D.

 

[SteveB]

So, following up with the list of 50 prophecies that Jack Hibbs posted yesterday, I did finish making a text version of it.
And while finishing up, my wife asked me about having heard there was like 100 or more.
That jogged my memory, so I went looking...
I then found several articles that there were over 300 that Jesus fulfilled, the first time through.

I then found the following article.

Jesus Fulfilled Over 300 Prophecies Mathematically proving that he is the Messiah

There are over 300 prophecies that point directly to the Messiah. Let’s start with eight and the odds of Jesus fulfilling just these eight.

www.clintbyars.com

I want to encourage you to do what Luke says...

Acts 17:11.

Search the scriptures daily to see if these things are true or not.

Don't be lazy, and dismiss them offhand or blithely accept them without learning!

As followers of Jesus, he is our life, our future, our hope!

 

[TomL]

Sure it does try reading about it from the book of revelation which spells out the 7 years.

In Revelation 11 and 12, John mentions 1,260 days in two prophecies concerning another persecution of the Jews during the end times. Daniel 8 speaks of 2,300 days in a prophecyconcerning a persecution of the Jewish people during the intertestamental period. The main differences between these two prophecies are 1) Daniel’s has been fulfilled, and John’s has not; and 2) Daniel predicts the actions of Antiochus Epiphanes, and John predicts those of the Antichrist.

The 1,260-day prophecy is found in two passages in Revelation. First, Revelation 11:2–3says,

“[The Gentiles] will trample on the holy city for 42 months. And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

Yes, I know all about the 70 weeks of years. And I know about the covenant with many for 7 years. But never is that 7 year period described as a tribulation period. I repeat: Some people think the 70th has already occurred. Some think the 70th 7 is a future week of years. But regardless of when you think it happens, nobody in the Bible ever refers to it as a 7 YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD.

The term "7 year tribulation period" was invented to prop up the false notion of a pre-trib rapture. It (and the pre-trib rapture) has no basis in scripture. Indeed, the Bible says we WILL HAVE TRIBULATION, but we are NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH. So even if you are under the mistaken assumption that there will be a 7 year period of tribulation, the fact that we are spared WRATH, NOT TRIBULATION proves there is no pre-trib rapture.

Here is Daniel's description of tribulation:

12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then.

That is the GREAT TRIBULATION spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24. How long will it last?

Daniel 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

Now do a little math. How many days are there in 7 years? I'll give you a hint. It's not 1,290. So even if you interpret Daniel 12 as describing a future period of tribulation instead of something that has already happened, you STILL don't have a 7 year "tribulation period".

As a point of interest the great tribulation begins at the abomination of desolation

Matthew 24:15–22 (ESV) — 15 “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let the one who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house, 18 and let the one who is in the field not turn back to take his cloak. 19 And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! 20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

the 1290 is roughly equal to 3 1/2 years