Could this be what we see happening now ?
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Some still believe the pope will be the antichrist. For some, (many? I haven't kept track) it has moved from communism/catholicism to a restored caliphate. And turkey is trying to restore the caliphate. Due to the uncertainty surrounding what is happening to the world, I have withdrawn my hate from the ring, and am just watching. I ran out of popcorn however.
Selah
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The Antichrist will be none other than Satan. It is written:
Revelation 12:7-12 (NKJV) 7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 “Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
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brightfame52
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arminaianism, freewillism, conditionalism all are offspring of RC
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Rockson
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I lean toward a partial prophetic interpretation of the "stars falling from heaven." A literal reading that involves astronomical stars is impossible, as our Sun alone would devour the entire Earth.
Instead, the event is better understood as a massive, visible celestial phenomenon, such as a swarm of meteorites. I believe the destruction would be comparable to the Tunguska Event of 1908, which instantly flattened 80 million trees across 830 square miles with a terrifying airburst explosion. This event provides a plausible scale for the shaking and fear described in Scripture.
This global catastrophe, referenced in both Revelation 6 and Matthew 24, appears designed to be less about total annihilation and more about a final, dramatic warning. Jesus stated that men's hearts would be "failing them for fear" because of the cosmic upheaval.
I see this not as an immediate act of judgment, but as a severe, undeniable act of mercy intended to startle the world into realizing that judgment is coming. It will spur a desperate cry of "What do we do?!" to which the faithful will have the necessary answer: "Call upon the name of the Lord, and you shall be saved!"
brightfame52
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Im not a calvinist, I just identify with the Truths of Tulip. Some of my most fiercest debates are with calvinist
civic
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Tulip is the central identifying doctrine in Calvinism.
Calvinism and Tulip are synonymous terms. You can’t have one without the other
Next fallacy
brightfame52
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Actually calvinism is much broader than the Doctrines of Grace
civic
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It’s the central doctrine
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brightfame52
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Well Ive clarified what I mean, Doctrines of Grace and for that folk call me a calvinist. So for convivence I roll with thatIt’s the central doctrine
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civic
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What would you disagree with in the broader view of Calvinism. Outside or tulip ?
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civic
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I know that I was wondering where you might have any disagreement with other aspects of Calvinism
brightfame52
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My views on Justification by Faith aren't typical calvinism
DavidTree
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The RCC has the Death of Christ on the Cross as their central doctrine.It’s the central doctrine
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The jehoovee whitless have God as the Father of Jesus as their central doctrine.
Baptists have 'Cessation of Gifts' as their central doctrine.
Most churches have 'pre-fib rature' as their central doctrine.
In order not to be deceived, one must do this.......................= What is it???
Selah
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Study? …
2 Timothy 2:15 (NKJV) Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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DavidTree
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Study what?
Selah
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'And God said,
Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven
to divide the day from the night;
and let them be for signs,
and for seasons,
and for days, and years:
(Gen.1:14)
Tunguska event | Summary, Cause, & Facts | Britannica
The Tunguska event was an enormous explosion that occurred at about 7:14 AM on June 30, 1908, at an altitude of 5–10 km (15,000–30,000 feet), flattening some 2,000 square km (500,000 acres) and charring more than 100 square km of pine forest near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River in central...
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Hello there, @Rockson,
[@civic, @DavidTree, @Diserner, @Selah, @Tothalordbeallglory, @Red Baker, @Marvelloustime, @brightfame,
@Aeliana 52, @Duane, @Jay, @Affinity, @armyingst, @Eternally-Grateful, @mikesw. @eve]
Thank you for your contribution, which keeps to the subject of the thread. I confess to not having heard of this 'event' before, so it has proved to be informative for me.
We can be in no doubt as to when this even,t involving the stars of heaven, under consideration, will take place; for the opening words of Matthew 24:29 tell us that it will be 'immediately after the tribulation of those days.'
'Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened,
.. and the moon shall not give her light,
.... and the stars shall fall from heaven,
...... and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
........ And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
.......... and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,
............ and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven
with power and great glory.
.............. And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
................ and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds,
from one end of heaven to the other.'
(Mat 24:29-31)
* In these verses is a figure of speech, in which there are many 'ands', and it requires that each individual point marked in this way is important in it's own right, and should be considered carefully, rather than lead up to a conclusion of importance.
*These are 'signs' given by our Lord in response to the questions asked by His disciples in Mat 24:3:-
1) ' ... when shall these things be?
2) ... what shall be the sign of Thy coming,
3) and of the end of the world? '
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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