Calvin on unlimited atonement

[brightfame52]

faith alone you are denying to be saved.

Yeah if you are saying it is an condition you must meet b4 God saves you. But if you say i deny Faith as a evidence of salvation I dont. Faith as an evidence and receives salvation, and faith also is a gift of grace and never ever a condition to get saved

 

[civic]

Yeah if you are saying it is an condition you must meet b4 God saves you. But if you say i deny Faith as a evidence of salvation I dont. Faith as an evidence and receives salvation, and faith also is a gift of grace and never ever a condition to get saved

Sola fide emphasizes salvation as a free gift. The Roman Catholic Church of the time emphasized the use of indulgences (donating money) to buy status with God. Good works, including baptism, were seen as required for salvation. Sola fide stated that salvation is a free gift to all who accept it by faith (John 3:16). Salvation is not based on human effort or good deeds (Ephesians 2:9).

 

[brightfame52]

Sola fide emphasizes salvation as a free gift. The Roman Catholic Church of the time emphasized the use of indulgences (donating money) to buy status with God. Good works, including baptism, were seen as required for salvation. Sola fide stated that salvation is a free gift to all who accept it by faith (John 3:16). Salvation is not based on human effort or good deeds (Ephesians 2:9).

I just gave you my position friend about Faith

 

[TomL]

Faith/believing are evidences of Justification and being righteous. Only a righteous man believes God. Nothing about faith or believing are conditions either

How is it you refuse to answer the questions?

How is one credited for righteousness according to the following verse?

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

On what basis is righteousness, which is from God?

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

 

[TomL]

The Just shall live by Faith. Its only promised to the just to live by faith, the Just are the ones Jesus Justified by His obedience Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous/just.

You are ignoring how it is men may be declared righteous.

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

 

[brightfame52]

How is it you refuse to answer the questions?

Faith/believing are evidences of Justification and being righteous. Only a righteous man believes God. Nothing about faith or believing are conditions either

 

[brightfame52]

You are ignoring how it is men may be declared righteous.

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

The Just shall live by Faith. Its only promised to the just to live by faith, the Just are the ones Jesus Justified by His obedience Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous/just.

I dont see no conditions stated

 

[TomL]

Yeah if you are saying it is an condition you must meet b4 God saves you. But if you say i deny Faith as a evidence of salvation I dont. Faith as an evidence and receives salvation, and faith also is a gift of grace and never ever a condition to get saved

Your theology is shot down.

Romans 10:9–10 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.

 

[TomL]

The Just shall live by Faith. Its only promised to the just to live by faith, the Just are the ones Jesus Justified by His obedience Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous/just.

I dont see no conditions stated

Answer the questions you have been avoiding

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

What is credited for righteousness?

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

On what basis is the righteousness from God given?

 

[TomL]

The Just shall live by Faith. Its only promised to the just to live by faith, the Just are the ones Jesus Justified by His obedience Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous/just.

I dont see no conditions stated

Are you able to see?

Or are you just not able to address any scripture that contradicts your theology?

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

What is credited for righteousness?

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

On what basis is the righteousness from God given?

 

[brightfame52]

Your theology is shot down.

Romans 10:9–10 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.

You haven't shown one scripture stating faith and or believing are conditions man must meet to get saved. They are evidences of salvation.

 

[brightfame52]

Answer the questions you have been avoiding

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

What is credited for righteousness?

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

On what basis is the righteousness from God given?

I dont see no conditions stated.

 

[Jim]

lol show you error with scripture and you still deny it.

So why do you change the definition of the phrase "is given" between given to believe and given to suffer?

 

[brightfame52]

So why do you change the definition of the phrase "is given" between given to believe and given to suffer?

Again, show you scripture that contradicted exactly what you stated, and you flip it off. Then you have the audacity to always ask me to show scripture. Please !

 

[TomL]

I dont see no conditions stated.

You are a runner.

And unfortunately it is scripture you run from.

Answer the questions you have been avoiding

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

What is credited for righteousness?

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

On what basis is the righteousness from God given?

 

[TomL]

You haven't shown one scripture stating faith and or believing are conditions man must meet to get saved. They are evidences of salvation.

Romans 10:9–10 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.

Sorry, but belief clearly comes before righteousness or salvation is granted

 

[brightfame52]

You are a runner.

And unfortunately it is scripture you run from.

You have shown all those scriptures, but not one stated anything about any conditions

 

[brightfame52]

Romans 10:9–10 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.

Sorry, but belief clearly comes before righteousness or salvation is granted

Okay, but I dont see anything saying conditions .

 

[TomL]

Okay, but I dont see anything saying conditions .

Do you know what a condition is?

A state of affairs that must exist or be brought about before something else is possible or permitted:

Romans 10:9–10 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.

Belief clearly comes before righteousness or salvation is granted

 

[TomL]

You have shown all those scriptures, but not one stated anything about any conditions

You do not have a clue and keep running

Romans 4:5 (LEB) — 5 But to the one who does not work, but who believes in the one who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited for righteousness,

What is credited for righteousness?

Why can't you answer?

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

On what basis is the righteousness from God given?

Again why can you not answer?