Are Mormons Christians?

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In one way or another, they deny all of the beliefs that makes one a Christian. They deny that the Word who became flesh was unique in His eternality and coequality with God; instead, they make Him merely one of the spirits of men, gods, and demons that, they claim, existed coequally with God.
The following statements suffice to state the Mormon position.

Man is a spirit clothed with a tabernacle the intelligent part of which was never created or made but existed eternally—man was also in the beginning with God.

He (man) existed before he came to earth: He was with God “in the beginning.” Man’s destiny is divine. Man is an eternal being. He also is “from everlasting to everlasting.”

Jesus Christ is not the father of the spirits who have taken or will take bodies, for He is one of them. He is the son and they are the sons and daughters of Elohim.

We have a succession of gods from Adam down to Christ (his son) and his apostles at least all men, including Jesus Christ, being in the image of his father, and possessing a similar knowledge of good and evil.

If I can pass Brother Joseph, I shall stand a good chance for passing Peter, Jesus and the prophets.

As for the Devil and his fellow spirits, they are brothers to man and also to Jesus and sons and daughters of God in the same sense that we are.

There is no impropriety … in speaking of Jesus Christ as the Elder Brother of the rest of human kind.

This one is hard to believe but actually Mormons teach that Jesus was the natural born child of Adam and Mary.

When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus … he was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is his Father? He is the first of the human family.

Jesus our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden.

The Mormons believe that Jesus was not unique in His birth, boyhood, or manhood.

Jesus Christ, a little babe like all the rest of us, grew to be a man, was filled with a divine substance or fluid, called the Holy Spirit, by which he comprehended and spake the truth. From The Book of Mormon.

The Mormons see no more in the life of Jesus than in any of us. Elder B. H. Roberts, in a footnote to Joseph Smith’s King Follett Discourse, and quoting Sir Oliver Lodge as an authority on the subject, states,

His humanity is to be recognized as real and ordinary—whatever happened to him may happen to any one of us.
The divinity of Jesus, and the divinity of all other noble and stately souls, in so far as they, too, have been influenced by a spark of Deity—can be recognized as manifestations of the Divine.”

The Mormons see no uniqueness in the resurrection of Jesus Christ except in the fact that His resurrection preceded others. It has nothing to do with our salvation or justification. In Key to the Science of Theology, Pratt says,

Every man who is eventually made perfect, raised from the dead, and filled or quickened with a fullness of celestial glory, will become like them (the Father and the Son) in every respect, physically and in intellect, attributes and powers.

The Mormons teach that man is not saved by the redemptive work of Christ or through the shedding of His blood on Calvary.

I would say Mormons are definitely not Christians.
 
Mormonism claims that it alone offers true salvation to the world. No other church on the face of the earth can tell a man or woman how to be saved other than the Mormon church. This teaching flows from its claim to be the only true church on earth; therefore, "There is no salvation outside the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

I would definitely say they teach a false gospel.
 
i'm sure some are (christian)
...having no idea what they are into

just that their religion is pure evil
 
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I would say Mormons are definitely not Christians.
"MORMONISM" is definitly NOT CHRISTIAN - just another false CULT.

Individual Mormons, on the other hand, MAY HAVE BEEN Born again of the Holy Spirit by FAITH, and at least in the short term remain in the LDS System, because they haven't gained enough BIBLICAL information to understand how utterly meaningless the LDS Theology is.
 
So, a Mormon that comes to the knowledge of the truth and leaves the Mormon faith can most certainly become a christian. But there is a danger in leaving the Mormon church. First of all you'll be ostracized and you need to move out of the Mormon community. But there's the Throat Slashing Ceremony, it's rather peculiar.

Throat slitting and gut slashing signs are still in today’s LDS temple ceremony.​


With all the talk about no more veiled faces and women no longer obeying husbands, don’t forget:
Thumb extended (still used today) represented the sharp object used as temple goers would mimic the action of slitting their throats and ripping open their gut. Hand in cupping shape? Yea, catching your entrails. Eww.
 
There are freemasons and then there are FREEMASONS. What I mean is that those that are new see it as doing good works, but as you go deeper and deeper, and higher up and higher up in rank you learn the secrets.

That is the same with Mormons. There are some Mormon kids that I allow on my property to do their good works that I can't do. But these kids do not know the Mormon secret beliefs like Satan and Jesus are brothers. They don't know about their practice of Blood Atonements that is murder shedding their victim's blood to atone for their victim's sins.
 
You can't be a Christian unless you believe in Jesus.

So the real issue is which "Jesus Christ" one believes in. The simple truth is that Mormons may proclaim their belief in Jesus Christ throughout the entire world, but like countless other sects and cults they believe in a false, pagan Christ who has nothing whatever to do with the biblical Jesus.

The Mormon Jesus and the biblical Jesus are so incompatible that hardly a single resemblance can be found between them.

Mormonism maintains it believes and teaches the true deity of Jesus Christ. However, although it is correct that Mormons believe that Christ is a god, they do not in any sense accept Christ's deity according to Christian or biblical teaching. For example, Mormons teach or imply that a) Christ is a created being, b) Christ is a "common god" who is not unique in essence, but primarily in mission—in His function and priority, and c) Christ is Satan's brother. We discuss these in turn.

John Ankerberg and John Weldon, What Do Mormons Really Believe
 
Edit: There are freemasons and then there are FREEMASONS. What I mean is that those that are new see it as doing good works, but as you go deeper and deeper, and higher up and higher up in rank you learn the secrets.

That is the same with Mormons. There are some Mormon kids that I allow on my property to do their good works that I can't do. But these kids do not know the Mormon secret beliefs like Satan and Jesus are brothers. They don't know about their practice of Blood Atonements that is murder shedding their victim's blood to atone for their victim's sins.

Not all Mormons believe the Satanic rites they practice, or even know about them. They believe in the KJV of the Bible, and learn the false stories about Joseph Smith's visions and the angel Moroni. I do NOT AGREE that those Mormons can't be saved who are raised on the same Jesus we Christians are raised on and have never even heard about His so called brother, Satan, and all the barbaric secret rites.
 
- no one is saved on the kjv , is the problem.
It is the sealed vision. Corrupt.

- being saved is being taken up out of here...
until then what we have is His promise.
 
You can't be a Christian unless you believe in Jesus.

So the real issue is which "Jesus Christ" one believes in.
The Jesus Christ that the vast majority of Mormons believe in is the Jesus Christ who call us to repentance and reconciliation with the Father.
The Jesus Christ who healed the sick and brought good news to the poor.
The Jesus Christ who obeyed his Father all the way to the cross.
The Jesus Christ who asked his disciples to love each other as the distinctive (I repeat: distinctive. Let me repeat it again: distinctive) sign of discipleship.

This is the Jesus Christ the vast majority of Mormons follow and honor. This is the Jesus Christ whom you and I follow.

The simple truth is that Mormons may proclaim their belief in Jesus Christ throughout the entire world, but like countless other sects and cults they believe in a false, pagan Christ who has nothing whatever to do with the biblical Jesus.
"Nothing to do"? That's a strong claim, Aeliana.
I would say their Jesus has a lot to do with biblical Jesus, even if we don't agree with them in some aspects.

The Mormon Jesus and the biblical Jesus are so incompatible that hardly a single resemblance can be found between them.
I strongly disagree, and here is the proof:

If their Jesus were incompatible with the Jesus held by, say, Baptists or Methodists, we would find Mormons living a life which would be opposite of the life Jesus taught us to live, by word and by example.
If I am following the right Christ, I will start producing the fruits of the spirit.
If I am not, I will live the life of the flesh.
 
If their Jesus were incompatible with the Jesus held by, say, Baptists or Methodists, we would find Mormons living a life which would be opposite of the life Jesus taught us to live, by word and by example.
If I am following the right Christ, I will start producing the fruits of the spirit.
If I am not, I will live the life of the flesh.

Buffoonery....

Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
 
The Mormon Jesus Christ and the biblical Jesus Christ are as far apart as day and night. Thats why the Apostle Paul had to warn some of the Corinthians that they were receiving "another Christ," a false Christ that was not the true biblical Christ

"For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached...you put up with it easily enough"
1 Corinthians 11:4
 
Mormon Teaching: There Are Different Kinds of Salvation

Does Mormonism believe in the biblical concept of salvation or in a completely different and unbiblical view of salvation?

First, Mormonism teaches there are two different types of salvation, general salvation and individual salvation.

General salvation
This is what Mormons mean when they refer to “salvation by grace;” however, the term “salvation by grace” means something entirely different than what Christians mean when they refer to salvation by grace. Mormonism teaches this aspect of salvation occurs to all men, irrespective of their beliefs.

This general salvation is restricted solely to resurrection from the dead and immortality; however, it does not decide a person’s specific residence or degree of glory in the next life. Leading Mormon doctrinal theologian Bruce McConkie explains that “In and of itself the resurrection is a form of salvation, meaning that men are thereby saved from death, hell, the devil, and endless torment (2 Nephi 9:17-27).... In this sense, the mere fact of resurrection is called salvation by grace alone. Works are not involved.” (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 671, emphasis added.)
And, “Unconditional or general salvation, that which comes by grace alone without obedience to gospel law, consists in the mere fact of being resurrected. In this sense, salvation is synonymous with immortality; it is the inseparable connection of body and spirit so that the resurrected personage lives forever.” (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 669.)

Thus, the Mormon Scripture Doctrine and Covenants 134:18 refers to “the hope of a glorious resurrection, through the grace of God the Father and his Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ.”

Individual Salvation
General salvation is said to be based on grace while true salvation in Mormonism is something entirely different, kind of like the difference between participating in a race and winning it. Genuine salvation in Mormonism is termed “individual salvation” and is emphatically and only achieved through personal merit and good works, a gospel contrary to that which the Bible teaches, as we will document below.
Therefore, Mormons may claim that they believe salvation is by grace; however, by this they mean no more than that every person will be resurrected from the dead. In the afterlife itself, the actual destiny of that person within Mormonism is determined by personal righteousness in the Mormon life of preexistence, life on this earth, and especially after death in the next life, where the individually achieved goal of climbing toward perfection and godhood continues (see below).

Thus, where people actually reside in the afterlife is not determined by faith in Jesus Christ alone as the Bible teaches (John 3:16; 5:24; 6:47), but decided by the second category of Mormon salvation, individual salvation, which is entirely dependent upon good works of personal merit.
Individual salvation constitutes the true concept of Mormon salvation and determines which one of the three heavens of Mormonism a person goes to after death. (While these three heavens are discussed in more detail below, they are referenced briefly at this point to illustrate their relationship to the doctrine of individual salvation.) The three heavens are the telestial heaven, terrestrial heaven and the highest celestial heaven). Individual salvation also determines whether or not a person earns the best or highest salvation in the highest part of the highest or celestial heaven—which amounts to achieving actual godhood. According to Mormonism, only this is true and genuine salvation; it is also termed achieving “eternal life.” This is what every Mormon strives for: true salvation or becoming a God. All other degrees of individual salvation in the telestial or terrestrial heavens are actually (by comparison) termed degrees of “damnation.”

Again, prominent Mormon theologian Bruce McConkie explains that general salvation or salvation by grace is really not the salvation desired by Mormons; as noted, it is actually a form of “damnation,” because those persons (Mormons or others) will not have the opportunity to achieve godhood and eternal progression (or eternal marriage and offspring) in the highest part of the highest celestial heaven:

But this [general salvation] is not the salvation of righteousness, the salvation which the saints [Mormons] seek. Those who gain [by good works] only this general or unconditional salvation will still be judged according to their works and receive their places in a [much lower] terrestrial or a telestial kingdom. They will, therefore, be damned; their eternal progression will be cut short; they will not feel the full measure of their creation, but in eternity will be ministering servants to more worthy persons [better Mormons]. (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 669.)

The term “damned” is a relative term used to identify those in the lower “heavens” because they are cut off from their true purpose and do not have the opportunity to become Gods, be married eternally and have eternal spirit children through physical sexual union, ruling their own worlds. Thus their “eternal progression” is cut short forever. As Joseph Smith taught, the God of this earth was Himself once a man, a simple mortal, who evolved into godhood—and, according to Mormon belief, the whole point of our existence on this planet is to learn to become Gods through good works, obedience to gospel law and personal merit achieved within the Mormon Church and its rituals/teachings and, by living this life on earth, experiencing both good and evil and learning thereby:

God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens...I say, if you were to see him to-day, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves, in all the person, image, and very form as a man.... It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know.... that he was once a man like us. Here, then, is eternal life—to know that only wise and true God, and you have got to learn how to become Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you.... It is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away the veil, so that you may see.... and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did. (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6; History of the Church, Vol. 6, 305 ff; The Prophet Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 342-345, emphasis added.)

In comparison to what Mormons believes they will actually achieve by becoming Gods, “damnation” is an appropriate relative term for consignment to the lower two heavens or even the lower two compartments of the third heaven. As a result, the term “damnation” as used in Mormonism is not to be confused with the term “hell,” an actual place where, according to Mormonism, the “sons of perdition” (the devil and his angels and the most wicked of men) will reside forever in eternal torment, although some Mormons have also denied an eternal hell and taught universalism.

James Talmage, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, summarizes that “... general salvation... comes to all without their seeking it; but... individual salvation or rescue from the effects of personal sins is to be required by each for himself by faith and good works.” (James Talmage, Jesus the Christ, 31.)

In sum, the term “salvation by grace” as used in Mormonism only refers to the opportunity to earn various degrees afterlife existence through good works and is therefore entirely different than “salvation by grace” as taught in Christianity. Nevertheless, in their evangelistic efforts with Christians, especially evangelical Christians, Mormon missionaries will characteristically attempt to convert them to Mormonism by being less than forthright, emphasizing that they truly believe in the biblical concept of salvation by grace, even that their beliefs are the same as Christian beliefs. (See the last part of endnote 6.)

Biblical Teaching: There is Only One Salvation—Salvation by Grace through Faith in Christ Alone

According to the Bible and Christian belief, simple faith in Jesus Christ alone provides true salvation or eternal life in the highest of heavens as a completely free gift, including absolute forgiveness of sins, past, present and future—as well as a declaration of eternal righteousness by God Himself, termed justification. Individual merit and personal works of righteousness are not required in the slightest, although they are a natural result of being spiritually reborn or “born again.” Because those who become Christians are supernaturally and miraculously “born from above” by the Holy Spirit (John 3:3-5), and their spirit, once dead to God, is instantaneously made alive to God, they become “new creatures in Christ Jesus” and now have a new desire to live for God which logically lead to good works (Eph. 2:1-9; Gal. 6:5). Thus: “If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come” (2 Cor. 5:17).

But it must be stressed emphatically that good works have literally nothing to do with the initial receiving of eternal life. This is entirely a free gift of God’s grace. Absolute, full salvation in the sense of possessing eternal life as a present tense possession happens at the precise moment of faith in Jesus Christ and occurs simply by believing in Jesus Christ (note: to believe in Jesus Christ is also to believe in the God Father):

Then Jesus cried out, “When a man believes in me, he does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me.” (John 12:44)
... he who receives me receives the one who sent me. (Matt. 10:40)

Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17:3)
I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. (John 5:24 NIV)

Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. (John 6:47)

I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 John 5:13)
From these few verses alone it is clear that the Mormon concept of salvation has virtually nothing to do with the biblical doctrine of salvation which, briefly summarized, teaches four principal points:

1) Christ alone achieved full and total salvation on the cross (Eph. 1:7; Col. 2:13; Heb. 10:14) —we do not forgive our own sins by works of righteousness, as Mormonism teaches.

2) Full salvation can be freely received by anyone merely by receiving the true biblical Christ (not the Mormon Christ) as his or her personal savior from sin (John 1:12; 3:16; 5:24; 6:47).

3) Salvation is not a lengthy process involving eons of time and effort from preexistence, throughout this life and into eons in the future, with the goal of becoming God. To the contrary, it involves fallen and sinful men and women who, in repentance from their sin, exercise true faith in Christ and His atoning sacrifice on the cross. Then, as God’s redeemed children, they honor and enjoy Him and experience eternal life with Him forever (Rev. 21:1-7; 1 John 2: 25)

4) Salvation is completely and totally by grace, not by works in any sense (Eph. 2:8-9). Works are the logical byproduct of salvation by grace alone through faith in Christ alone, never the direct or actual cause of salvation as Mormonism teaches.


John Weldon, The Mormon Deception
 

Are Mormons Christians?​

Some Mormons are Born again Christians, while other (maybe most) Mormons are nothing but Mormons. MORMONISM is a worthless non-Christian pile of horse manure theologically.

God is able, by the Holy Spirit to reach and CAUSE FAITH TO ARISE in people who are caught in cults like Mormonism, Bahai, Catholicism, Jehovah Witness, etc.
 
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