All believers are baptized into The Body of Christ

[Ray]

The baptism of the Holy Spirit may be defined as that work whereby the Spirit of God places the believer into union with Christ and into union with other believers in the body of Christ at the moment of salvation. The baptism of the Holy Spirit was predicted by John the Baptist (Mark 1:8) and by Jesus before He ascended to heaven: “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit” (Acts 1:5). This promise was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1–4); for the first time, people were permanently indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and the church had begun.

First Corinthians 12:12–13 is the central passage in the Bible regarding the baptism of the Holy Spirit: “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink” (1 Corinthians 12:13). Notice that we “all” have been baptized by the Spirit—all believers have received the baptism, synonymous with salvation, and it is not a special experience for only a few. While Romans 6:1–4 does not mention specifically the Spirit of God, it does describe the believer’s position before God in language similar to the 1 Corinthians passage: “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.”

The following facts are necessary to help solidify our understanding of Spirit baptism: First, 1 Corinthians 12:13 clearly states that all have been baptized, just as all been given the Spirit to drink (the indwelling of the Spirit). Second, nowhere in Scripture are believers told to be baptized with, in or by the Spirit, or in any sense to seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This indicates that all believers have had this experience. Third, Ephesians 4:5 seems to refer to Spirit baptism. If this is the case, Spirit baptism is the reality for every believer, just as “one faith” and “one Father” are.

In conclusion, the baptism of the Holy Spirit does two things, 1) it joins us to the body of Christ, and 2) it actualizes our co-crucifixion with Christ. Being in His body means we are risen with Him to newness of life (Romans 6:4). We should then exercise our spiritual gifts to keep that body functioning properly as stated in the context of 1 Corinthians 12:13. Experiencing the one Spirit baptism serves as the basis for keeping the unity of the church, as in the context of Ephesians 4:5. Being associated with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection through Spirit baptism establishes the basis for our separation from the power of indwelling sin and our walk in newness of life (Romans 6:1-10; Colossians 2:12).
From Got?

 

[Clay]

The baptism of the Holy Spirit may be defined as that work whereby the Spirit of God places the believer into union with Christ and into union with other believers in the body of Christ at the moment of salvation. The baptism of the Holy Spirit was predicted by John the Baptist (Mark 1:8) and by Jesus before He ascended to heaven: “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit” (Acts 1:5). This promise was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1–4); for the first time, people were permanently indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and the church had begun.

First Corinthians 12:12–13 is the central passage in the Bible regarding the baptism of the Holy Spirit: “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink” (1 Corinthians 12:13). Notice that we “all” have been baptized by the Spirit—all believers have received the baptism, synonymous with salvation, and it is not a special experience for only a few. While Romans 6:1–4 does not mention specifically the Spirit of God, it does describe the believer’s position before God in language similar to the 1 Corinthians passage: “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.”

The following facts are necessary to help solidify our understanding of Spirit baptism: First, 1 Corinthians 12:13 clearly states that all have been baptized, just as all been given the Spirit to drink (the indwelling of the Spirit). Second, nowhere in Scripture are believers told to be baptized with, in or by the Spirit, or in any sense to seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This indicates that all believers have had this experience. Third, Ephesians 4:5 seems to refer to Spirit baptism. If this is the case, Spirit baptism is the reality for every believer, just as “one faith” and “one Father” are.

In conclusion, the baptism of the Holy Spirit does two things, 1) it joins us to the body of Christ, and 2) it actualizes our co-crucifixion with Christ. Being in His body means we are risen with Him to newness of life (Romans 6:4). We should then exercise our spiritual gifts to keep that body functioning properly as stated in the context of 1 Corinthians 12:13. Experiencing the one Spirit baptism serves as the basis for keeping the unity of the church, as in the context of Ephesians 4:5. Being associated with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection through Spirit baptism establishes the basis for our separation from the power of indwelling sin and our walk in newness of life (Romans 6:1-10; Colossians 2:12).
From Got?

The Bible is clear and consistent in its explanation of the baptism of the Spirit. The OP from got is spot on. John the Baptist got the ball rolling. As the forerunner to Christ, John had the responsibility of preparing the people for His arrival. Four hundred years had passed since the last legitimate prophet had spoken to the Jewish nation. People were suspicious. John had a challenging mission.

John often spoke about the baptism of the Spirit. He continually emphasized that once the Messiah arrived, He would baptize His followers with the Holy Spirit:

As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
—Matthew 3:11

Baptism is awesome for a lot of reasons. But baptism of the Holy Spirit is the real deal. Once accept Christ as your Lord and Savior you automatically receive the baptism of the holy spirit.

Acts 1:5 KJV​

For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

John also had this to say,

And I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, “He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the one who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.”
—John 1:33

But wait there's more...the plot thickens. Jesus shows up. John recognizes Him as the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. But nobody gets baptized. For three years we don’t hear anything else about the baptism of the Holy Spirit—it seems. Then, finally, the day He ascends back into heaven, Jesus brings it up again.

And gathering them together, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Which,” He said, “you heard of from Me; for John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
—Acts 1:4–5

 

[Doug Brents]

The baptism of the Holy Spirit may be defined as that work whereby the Spirit of God places the believer into union with Christ and into union with other believers in the body of Christ at the moment of salvation. The baptism of the Holy Spirit was predicted by John the Baptist (Mark 1:8) and by Jesus before He ascended to heaven: “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit” (Acts 1:5). This promise was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1–4); for the first time, people were permanently indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and the church had begun.

First Corinthians 12:12–13 is the central passage in the Bible regarding the baptism of the Holy Spirit: “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink” (1 Corinthians 12:13). Notice that we “all” have been baptized by the Spirit—all believers have received the baptism, synonymous with salvation, and it is not a special experience for only a few. While Romans 6:1–4 does not mention specifically the Spirit of God, it does describe the believer’s position before God in language similar to the 1 Corinthians passage: “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.”

The following facts are necessary to help solidify our understanding of Spirit baptism: First, 1 Corinthians 12:13 clearly states that all have been baptized, just as all been given the Spirit to drink (the indwelling of the Spirit). Second, nowhere in Scripture are believers told to be baptized with, in or by the Spirit, or in any sense to seek the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This indicates that all believers have had this experience. Third, Ephesians 4:5 seems to refer to Spirit baptism. If this is the case, Spirit baptism is the reality for every believer, just as “one faith” and “one Father” are.

In conclusion, the baptism of the Holy Spirit does two things, 1) it joins us to the body of Christ, and 2) it actualizes our co-crucifixion with Christ. Being in His body means we are risen with Him to newness of life (Romans 6:4). We should then exercise our spiritual gifts to keep that body functioning properly as stated in the context of 1 Corinthians 12:13. Experiencing the one Spirit baptism serves as the basis for keeping the unity of the church, as in the context of Ephesians 4:5. Being associated with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection through Spirit baptism establishes the basis for our separation from the power of indwelling sin and our walk in newness of life (Romans 6:1-10; Colossians 2:12).
From Got?

Eph 4:5-6 says that there is only one baptism in the NT Church. That one baptism must include water because of 1 Pet 3:21, Eph 5:26-27, and Acts 8:36. And this fits with Acts 22:16, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, Col 2:11-14, and Rom 6:1-4 where we are told that it is in baptism that we are saved.

Spirit baptism has only occurred twice in all of history. That was on Pentecost when the Church began with the Jews, and with Cornelius when the Gentiles were first added to the Church. This baptism has not occurred outside of these two events.

But the Holy Spirit is active during water baptism as He is the one who cuts our sin from us and unites us with Jesus' death and resurrection (Col 2:11-14). The old man, dead in sin, goes into the water, and the new man, alive in Christ, comes out of the water. Without water baptism, a person remains in sin and is condemned.

 

[Fred]

While Romans 6:1–4 does not mention specifically the Spirit of God, it does describe the believer’s position before God in language similar to the 1 Corinthians passage: “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.”

To "walk in newness of life" (Romans 6:4) corresponds with serving in newness of the Spirit (Romans 7:6)
Romans 7:6
But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Romans 6:3-6
(3) Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
(4) Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
(5) For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection,
(6) knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin.

All who have undergone being "baptized into Christ Jesus" (v. 3) are able to:
"walk in newness of life" (v. 4) = "serve in the newness of the Spirit" (Romans 7:6).

Furthermore, a person is no longer "a slave to sin" (Romans 6:6) when the spirit of slavery (Romans 8:15) is cancelled. This took place when Cornelius and the other Gentiles with him received the Spirit of adoption (Acts 10:47; Romans 8:15).
Romans 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”

 

[Fred]

Spirit baptism has only occurred twice in all of history. That was on Pentecost when the Church began with the Jews, and with Cornelius when the Gentiles were first added to the Church. This baptism has not occurred outside of these two events.

Incorrect. No proof was given for this assertion.

But the Holy Spirit is active during water baptism as He is the one who cuts our sin from us and unites us with Jesus' death and resurrection (Col 2:11-14).

This took place with Cornelius and the other Gentiles with him before they were water baptized.

Colossians 2:11-12
(11) and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;
(12) having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

All who have undergone this baptism have been circumcised. Reference is to the spiritual aspect of each. There is an allusion to literal circumcision as well as to literal water baptism, but not a reference to them.

The circumcision Paul speaks of "is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit" - the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
Romans 2:29
But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

Since Cornelius and the other Gentiles with him were already given the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:44-45) means they were worshiping in the Spirit.
Acts 10:46
For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God.
Thus, before their water baptism they were already members of the circumcision (i.e., Christians) - see Philippians 3:3.

Philippians 3:3
for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh.
The removal of the body of flesh (Col. 2:11) corresponds with our body of sin might be done away (Romans 6:6) which takes place when one is baptized with the Holy Spirit. (see post 4).
Colossians 2:11
and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ.
Romans 6:6
knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin.

 

[Grace ambassador]

op: all believers are baptized into the Body Of Christ?

You do realize of course, that this Truth applies to the 'believers' who were, with (and after) Paul,
saved By Grace Through faith. Thus the 'believers' At Pentecost were still under 'the Old economy'
of prophecy / Covenants / Law, and thus belong to the Nation of Israel's 'kingdom' assembly
(gr Ekklesia).

Thus, there are Two Different groups in view - this brief Right Division should be helpful for
clarification:

Three Different Bible Baptisms:​

In God's Context Of Prophecy/Covenants/Law for Israel, Yesterday!:

►►► The Twelve Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄

The Two Main ( of 12 ) baptisms [ still available upon request ]

A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!":
(Matthew_3:5-6; Mark_1:4; Luke_3:3; John_1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts_10:37)
(Matthew_28:19; Mark_16:16; Acts_2:38, 22:16; Ezekiel_36:25; Isaiah 52:15)

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B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By Christ, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah_44:3; Matthew_3:11; Mark_1:8, 16:17-18;
Luke_24:49; Acts_2:17-18, 38, 8:15-17, 11:16)

Are these Two still active today (as some think), or do they not belong to the old economy?:

Prophecy / Covenants / Law for twelve tribes of Israel!

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That Differ"

God's New Economy!​

In God's Other Distinctive Context Of Mystery / Grace! (Romans - Philemon) =

our "One apostle to the Gentiles" for The One Body Of CHRIST, Today!:

►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today:

Only One Baptism = "BY" The One Spirit = God's Operation,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The One Body Of) Christ!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians_2:12; Galatians_3:27;
Romans_6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB)

Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE, 'Uniting' Christ's Body As One?

Or, Equals two? = water problem with God's Math! Dividing 'believers' up into
Many denominations, each with their own tradition of the 'water' ritual, Correct?
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This has also been Very Helpful:

Water That Divides!!
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ONE Baptism

 

[Ray]

To "walk in newness of life" (Romans 6:4) corresponds with serving in newness of the Spirit (Romans 7:6)
Romans 7:6
But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Romans 6:3-6
(3) Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
(4) Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
(5) For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection,
(6) knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin.

All who have undergone being "baptized into Christ Jesus" (v. 3) are able to:
"walk in newness of life" (v. 4) = "serve in the newness of the Spirit" (Romans 7:6).

Furthermore, a person is no longer "a slave to sin" (Romans 6:6) when the spirit of slavery (Romans 8:15) is cancelled. This took place when Cornelius and the other Gentiles with him received the Spirit of adoption (Acts 10:47; Romans 8:15).
Romans 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”

Finally the voice of reason.

 

[Ray]

op: all believers are baptized into the Body Of Christ?

You do realize of course, that this Truth applies to the 'believers' who were, with (and after) Paul,
saved By Grace Through faith. Thus the 'believers' At Pentecost were still under 'the Old economy'
of prophecy / Covenants / Law, and thus belong to the Nation of Israel's 'kingdom' assembly
(gr Ekklesia).

Thus, there are Two Different groups in view - this brief Right Division should be helpful for
clarification:

Three Different Bible Baptisms:​

In God's Context Of Prophecy/Covenants/Law for Israel, Yesterday!:

►►► The Twelve Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄

The Two Main ( of 12 ) baptisms [ still available upon request ]

A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!":
(Matthew_3:5-6; Mark_1:4; Luke_3:3; John_1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts_10:37)
(Matthew_28:19; Mark_16:16; Acts_2:38, 22:16; Ezekiel_36:25; Isaiah 52:15)

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B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By Christ, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah_44:3; Matthew_3:11; Mark_1:8, 16:17-18;
Luke_24:49; Acts_2:17-18, 38, 8:15-17, 11:16)

Are these Two still active today (as some think), or do they not belong to the old economy?:

Prophecy / Covenants / Law for twelve tribes of Israel!

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That Differ"

God's New Economy!​

In God's Other Distinctive Context Of Mystery / Grace! (Romans - Philemon) =

our "One apostle to the Gentiles" for The One Body Of CHRIST, Today!:

►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today:

Only One Baptism = "BY" The One Spirit = God's Operation,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The One Body Of) Christ!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians_2:12; Galatians_3:27;
Romans_6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB)

Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE, 'Uniting' Christ's Body As One?

Or, Equals two? = water problem with God's Math! Dividing 'believers' up into
Many denominations, each with their own tradition of the 'water' ritual, Correct?
----------------------------------
This has also been Very Helpful:

Water That Divides!!
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ONE Baptism

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Thanks for explaining this, It helps me understand this better.

 

[360watt]

Well once again...the baptism in 1 co 12:13 is assumed to be Holy Spirit baptism and the body of Christ to be all redeemed.

This interpretation of scripture does not mesh with 1 co 12 description of the body in a visible and local sense.

I believe 1 co 12:13 ..to mesh with how the body is described earlier...is of a local and visible body.

So Paul... Would have been baptised by immersion in water after salvation, allowing him membership to the church at Antioch. The Corinthians would have been baptised by immersion in water after salvation allowing membership to the church at Corinth.

That is where 'we were all baptised into one body, whether slaves or free....etc' comes in.

Think about what a body is. If it doesn't meet, has no ordinances and is disconnected (which all redeemed are)... How is that a church? How is that a body?

1 co 12 defined the body of Christ as the church at Corinth.

So each NT church is a body of Christ.

All redeemed are in the Family of God and Kingdom of God . The body of Christ is a local body and a different entity to the Kingdom and Family of God.

Matthew 16:18 is describing the local church because so is Matthew 18:20.

 

[Fred]

Well once again...the baptism in 1 co 12:13 is assumed to be Holy Spirit baptism

1 Corinthians 12:13 refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

Drinking of one Spirit occurs when He is received.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

John 7:37-39
(37) Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.
(38) He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’”
(39) But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

Acts 10:47-48
(47) “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”
(48) And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

Since the Holy Spirit was received by the Gentiles (Acts 10:47) before their water baptism (Acts 10:48) proves they did "drink of one Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:13) before their water baptism. Thus, the baptism mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:13 refers to being baptized with the Holy Spirit.

 

[civic]

1 Corinthians 12:13 refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

Drinking of one Spirit occurs when He is received.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

John 7:37-39
(37) Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.
(38) He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’”
(39) But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

Acts 10:47-48
(47) “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”
(48) And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

Since the Holy Spirit was received by the Gentiles (Acts 10:47) before their water baptism (Acts 10:48) proves they did "drink of one Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:13) before their water baptism. Thus, the baptism mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:13 refers to being baptized with the Holy Spirit.

Yes the baptism that is salvific if the spirits baptism into Christ , the new birth , the washing of regeneration by His spirit. Amen

 

[Fred]

Galatians 3:27

Galatians 3:27
For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Romans 6:3
Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?

Since being "baptized into Christ" in Romans 6:3 refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit (see post 4), the same is true here in Galatians 3:27.


Notice that the beginning of Galatians 3 the focus in on the Holy Spirit - not water baptism.

Galatians 3:1-5
(1) You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?
(2) This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
(3) Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
(4) Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain?
(5) So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

When one receives the Spirit (v. 2) is the beginning of their Christian life (3:3).

The same Greek word for "received" in Galatians 3:2 is used in reference to the Gentiles in Acts 10:47 before their water baptism in Acts 10:48.
Acts 10:47-48
(47) “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”
(48) And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.


There are two other important points:
1. At the same moment when one receives the promise of the Spirit through faith (v. 14) = through faith (v. 26) - is when this "baptism" (v. 27) takes place.

2. Since Cornelius and the other Gentiles with him received the promise of the Spirit (Acts 10:47) proves the blessing of Abraham belonged to them (Galatians 3:14), and as such they were Abraham's descendant's (Christians) before their water baptism (Galatians 3:29; cf. Acts 10:48).

Galatians 3:14, 26-29
(14) in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
(26) For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
(27) For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
(28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
(29) And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.

 

[Speculator]

I like two scriptures that @Fred posted:

Galatians 3:27
For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Romans 6:3
Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?

There is no account in Acts of the Spirit bypassing some Christians while falling upon others. Acts is in perfect harmony with the New Testament definition of what a Christian is: someone who is blessed in the heavenly realms with every blessing of the Holy Spirit in Christ.

To me when the Bible says "all" It means all.

 

[360watt]

1 Corinthians 12:13 refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

Drinking of one Spirit occurs when He is received.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

John 7:37-39
(37) Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.
(38) He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’”
(39) But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

Acts 10:47-48
(47) “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?”
(48) And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

Since the Holy Spirit was received by the Gentiles (Acts 10:47) before their water baptism (Acts 10:48) proves they did "drink of one Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:13) before their water baptism. Thus, the baptism mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:13 refers to being baptized with the Holy Spirit.

Thanks for the reply,

Here is the difference between individual indwelling and a group of believers receiving the Holy Spirit who were already indwelled.

There is the role of the Holy Spirit in the individual's soul and then the role of empowering churches ..being 'in the midst'

The book of John has mostly individual indwelling of the Holy Spirit at salvation, and then Acts has cases of believers gathered in groups, already indwelled, being empowered with the Holy Spirit coming 'upon' or 'in the midst' of them.

At Pentecost.. the disciples would have already been indwelled by the Holy Spirit, and then received the Holy Spirit in the upper room .. being empowered.

The church at Jerusalem is a church empowered.. not the NT church started.

So in regards to Acts 10:47-48

* they had received the Holy Spirit before baptism by immersion.. so it would mostly likely have been individual indwelling in question. That is true.

*drinking in one Spirit-- doesn't HAVE to mean receiving individually the Holy Spirit at salvation. This can also be a reference to the Lords Supper where we drink in remembrance the grape juice in reference to the blood of Jesus. But also.. when a believer joins a local church.. in their baptism it is a picture of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus.. so it is figuratively.. 'drinking in one Spirit'.

Also Spirit is capitalised here.. but when you go to the Greek it isn't capitalised and so the context of the situation determines whether it is in a spirit of unity or the Holy Spirit.

 

[Fred]

Thanks for the reply,

Here is the difference between individual indwelling and a group of believers receiving the Holy Spirit who were already indwelled.

When Cornelius and the Gentiles with him received the Holy Spirit, they were at the same time indwelt with the Holy Spirit.

At Pentecost.. the disciples would have already been indwelled by the Holy Spirit, and then received the Holy Spirit in the upper room .. being empowered.

At Pentecost is when they were indwelt with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4).
It was at time they were baptized with the Holy Spirit (cf. Acts 1:5).

So in regards to Acts 10:47-48

* they had received the Holy Spirit before baptism by immersion.. so it would mostly likely have been individual indwelling in question. That is true.

*drinking in one Spirit-- doesn't HAVE to mean receiving individually the Holy Spirit at salvation.

It does according to John 7.

This can also be a reference to the Lords Supper where we drink in remembrance the grape juice in reference to the blood of Jesus.

Please cite any person who believes this drinking of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12:13 occurs when one partakes of the Lord Supper.

But also.. when a believer joins a local church.. in their baptism it is a picture of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus.. so it is figuratively.. 'drinking in one Spirit'.

Also Spirit is capitalised here.. but when you go to the Greek it isn't capitalised

All the Greek letters are capitalized.

 

[360watt]

When Cornelius and the Gentiles with him received the Holy Spirit, they were at the same time indwelt with the Holy Spirit.



At Pentecost is when they were indwelt with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4).
It was at time they were baptized with the Holy Spirit (cf. Acts 1:5).




It does according to John 7.




Please cite any person who believes this drinking of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12:13 occurs when one partakes of the Lord Supper.




All the Greek letters are capitalized.

This explains it better than I have:

http://baptisthistoryhomepage.com/pink.local.church.html

 

[Doug Brents]

Incorrect. No proof was given for this assertion.

There are only two instances of Spirit Baptism (fire and immediate miraculous signs) in Scripture. If there are others, please point them out. The Apostles' laying on of hands to pass on the ability to do miraculous signs is not the same thing, although is was done for similar purposes.

This took place with Cornelius and the other Gentiles with him before they were water baptized.

Colossians 2:11-12
(11) and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;
(12) having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

All who have undergone this baptism have been circumcised. Reference is to the spiritual aspect of each. There is an allusion to literal circumcision as well as to literal water baptism, but not a reference to them.

Again, there is only one baptism in the NT Church, and it MUST include water as 1 Pet 3:21, Eph 5:26, Acts 8:36, and other passages state. And as Rom 6 and Col 2 state, it is during baptism (that must include water) that the Holy Spirit does the work of circumcising our sin and death from us, and unites us with Christ in His resurrection.

The circumcision Paul speaks of "is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit" - the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
Romans 2:29
But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

As I said above, it is during water baptism that the circumcision of the heart by the Spirit occurs. If we leave out the water, the we do not experience the burial with Him, nor do we receive the Holy Spirit's work of spiritual circumcision.

Since Cornelius and the other Gentiles with him were already given the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:44-45) means they were worshiping in the Spirit.
Acts 10:46
For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God.
Thus, before their water baptism they were already members of the circumcision (i.e., Christians) - see Philippians 3:3.

The purpose of the Holy Spirit coming on the Gentiles was, as Acts 11:17 points out, to show the Jews that the Gentiles were equal in the Church to the Jews. This was not a sign of salvation, nor of them having been forgiven. If it were, then they would not have needed the water baptism which immediately followed (Acts 10:47).

Philippians 3:3
for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh.
The removal of the body of flesh (Col. 2:11) corresponds with our body of sin might be done away (Romans 6:6) which takes place when one is baptized with the Holy Spirit. (see post 4).
Colossians 2:11
and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ.
Romans 6:6
knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin.

And again, this cannot be just the baptism of the Holy Spirit because that would not fulfill many passages.
Matt 28:19 - The Apostles were commanded to go, teach, and baptize. The Apostles are not the Holy Spirit. If it was up to them (and us) to do the baptizing then this certainly cannot be Spirit baptism that is being discussed.
Acts 22:16 - If it were Spirit baptism that Ananias was ordering Saul to undergo, then the Spirit could have come on Saul where he sat, and he did not need to get up or have any haste about himself for the Spirit to remove his sin. But Ananias told him to get up swiftly and be baptized and wash away his sins. Again, not Spirit baptism.
Acts 8:36 - Baptism was certainly part of Philip's sermon, even though it started in Isaiah, and the baptism that Philip instructed required water because it was the eunuch who asked for baptism when they were passing a body of water sufficient for the purpose. It is very clear from Scripture that the one baptism of which Eph 4 speaks must be water baptism, and it is water baptism during which the Holy Spirit does the work of removing our sins and uniting us with Jesus' death and resurrection.

 

[Fred]

This explains it better than I have:

http://baptisthistoryhomepage.com/pink.local.church.html

From the article:
It is to be noted that in both places the Doctor speaks of "the baptism with the Spirit," but in 1 Corinthians 12:13 there is no mention made at all of any baptism "with" the Holy Spirit, either in the English or in the Greek; such is merely a figment of the Doctor's imagination.

My Response: Neither is there any mention of water baptism.


From the article:
For the benefit of those who do not read the New Testament in the Greek, we may say that in the language in which the New Testament was originally written there are no capital letters used, except at the beginning of a book or paragraph.

My Response: They were in ALL capital letters and without spaces between the words.


He is also wrong that pneuma should be a small "s" for spirit, since the baptism with the Holy Spirit is referred to by Paul also in Romans 6:3 and Colossians 2:12, as well as in Galatians 3:27.

 

[civic]

Salvation without baptism in Acts are plentiful to find and numerous conversions with faith and no hint of baptism below,

Acts 2:47
And the Lord B was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.

Acts 4:4
4 But many of those who had heard the 1 message believed; and the number of the men came to be about five thousand.

Acts 5:14
14 And all the more believers in the Lord, multitudes of men and women, were constantly added to their number,

Acts 6:7
7 A The word of God kept on spreading; and the number of the disciples continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to the faith.

Acts 9:35
35 And all who lived at Lydda and Sharon saw him, and they turned to the Lord.

Acts 9:42
42 It became known all over Joppa, and many believed in the Lord.

Acts 11:21
21 And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a large number who believed turned to the Lord.

Acts 11:24
24 for he was a good man, and full of the Holy Spirit and of faith. And considerable numbers were brought to the Lord.

Acts 12:24
24 But the word of the Lord continued to grow and to be multiplied.

Acts 13:12
12 Then the A proconsul believed when he saw what had happened, being amazed at the teaching of the Lord.

Acts 13:43
43 Now when the meeting of the synagogue had broken up, many of the Jews and of the God-fearing proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, were urging them to continue in the grace of God.

Acts 13:48
48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Acts 14:1
In Iconium they entered the synagogue of the Jews together, and spoke in such a manner that a large number of people believed, both of Jews and of Greeks.

Acts 16:5
5 So the churches were being strengthened in the faith, and were increasing in number daily.

Acts 17:12
12 Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men.

Acts 17:34
34 But some men joined him and believed, among whom also were Dionysius the Areopagite and a woman named Damaris and others with them.

Acts 19:16-20
they fled out of that house naked and wounded. 17 This became known to all, both Jews and Greeks, who lived in Ephesus; and fear fell upon them all and the name of the Lord Jesus was being magnified. 18 Many also of those who had believed kept coming, confessing and disclosing their practices. 19 And many of those who practiced magic brought their books together and began burning them in the sight of everyone; and they counted up the price of them and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 So the word of the Lord B was growing mightily and prevailing.

Acts 26:15-18
15 "And I said, 'Who are You, Lord?' And the Lord said, 'I am Jesus whom you are persecuting. 16 'But get up and A stand on your feet; for this purpose I have appeared to you, to appoint you a minister and a witness not only to the things which you have seen, but also to the things in which I will appear to you; 17 A rescuing you from the Jewish people and from the Gentiles, to whom I am sending you, 18 to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the dominion of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been sanctified by faith in Me.'


Acts 28:23-24
23 When they had set a day for Paul, they came to him at his lodging in large numbers; and he was explaining to them by solemnly testifying about the kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from morning until evening. 24 Some were being persuaded by the things spoken, but others would not believe.

 

[Fred]

There are only two instances of Spirit Baptism (fire and immediate miraculous signs) in Scripture. If there are others, please point them out. The Apostles' laying on of hands to pass on the ability to do miraculous signs is not the same thing, although is was done for similar purposes.

Again, there is only one baptism in the NT Church,

False.
There is not "only one" baptism in the NT Church.
John, who was a member of the NT Church, still had a "baptism" to undergo - his death.

Mark 10:35-39
(35) James and John, the two sons of Zebedee, came up to Jesus, saying, “Teacher, we want You to do for us whatever we ask of You.”
(36) And He said to them, “What do you want Me to do for you?”
(37) They said to Him, “Grant that we may sit, one on Your right and one on Your left, in Your glory.”
(38) But Jesus said to them, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?”
(39) They said to Him, “We are able.” And Jesus said to them, The cup that I drink you shall drink; and you shall be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized.

and it MUST include water as 1 Pet 3:21, Eph 5:26, Acts 8:36, and other passages state. And as Rom 6 and Col 2 state, it is during baptism (that must include water) that the Holy Spirit does the work of circumcising our sin and death from us, and unites us with Christ in His resurrection.

I never denied that. The substance is the baptism with the Holy Spirit, water is the picture.

As I said above, it is during water baptism that the circumcision of the heart by the Spirit occurs.

Proven wrong because the Gentiles were worshiping in the Spirit before their water baptism (Acts 10:46).

The purpose of the Holy Spirit coming on the Gentiles was, as Acts 11:17 points out, to show the Jews that the Gentiles were equal in the Church to the Jews.

Correct, they were equal "in the church". Since they were in the church demonstrates they were already saved before their water baptism.

This was not a sign of salvation, nor of them having been forgiven. If it were, then they would not have needed the water baptism which immediately followed (Acts 10:47).

Needed for obedience after salvation, not before salvation.
You are saying one can receive the Holy Spirit and be lost. This contradicts the Bible in many places (John 14:17; 1 John 3:24; 4:13. etc.)

And again, this cannot be just the baptism of the Holy Spirit because that would not fulfill many passages.
Matt 28:19 - The Apostles were commanded to go, teach, and baptize. The Apostles are not the Holy Spirit. If it was up to them (and us) to do the baptizing then this certainly cannot be Spirit baptism that is being discussed.

By believing what they preached one was baptized with thr Holy Spirit. He comes as a result of their preaching and the acceptance of it by those who embrace it.

Acts 22:16 - If it were Spirit baptism that Ananias was ordering Saul to undergo, then the Spirit could have come on Saul where he sat, and he did not need to get up or have any haste about himself for the Spirit to remove his sin. But Ananias told him to get up swiftly and be baptized and wash away his sins. Again, not Spirit baptism.

Applies only to the Jews of that time period (cf. Acts 2:38).
Not one Gentiles is ever told to be baptized for the forgiveness of sins and to receive the Holy Spirit. Not one in the Church age.

Acts 8:36 - Baptism was certainly part of Philip's sermon, even though it started in Isaiah, and the baptism that Philip instructed required water because it was the eunuch who asked for baptism when they were passing a body of water sufficient for the purpose.

Agree. He was water baptized.

It is very clear from Scripture that the one baptism of which Eph 4 speaks must be water baptism

Which pictures the baptism with the Holy Spirit which all have upon entering the NT Church.

, and it is water baptism during which the Holy Spirit does the work of removing our sins and uniting us with Jesus' death and resurrection.

Again, you have to deny the obvious to say the above when it comes to Corenlius and the other Gentiles with him,