A Personal Reflection on the Trinity and Salvation

[praise_yeshua]

So you reject being a partaker of the divine nature. I am pretty sure that's unChristian.

That is your lie. I didn't reject being partakes. I know what partaking means. You believe it must include everything. It doesn't.

You're going to die and find corruption. You're not like Jesus. Jesus never corrupted. You're headed for ashes.

 

[Runningman]

What is keeping you?

Paul got angry and apologized for offending a High Priest.

Act 23:4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest?
Act 23:5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

Jesus never did this. Paul is a much better man than you are but he wasn't Jesus Christ. Paul isn't my master.

So when are you going to start listing all these masters you have?

So you reject the authority Jesus gave to his disciples? Not sure what your point is.

 

[praise_yeshua]

They physically bowed to Jesus, not the same thing as the spirit and truth worship that true worshippers only give to the Father. Jesus isn't included in that kind of worship according to the Bible.

Physically bowing can be included but it doesn't really mean anything. It a matter of the heart.

You can bow because you have no choice otherwise. That isn't worship. This man cared about Jesus. He wasn't like you.

 

[Runningman]

That is your lie. I didn't reject being partakes. I know what partaking means. You believe it must include everything. It doesn't.

You're going to die and find corruption. You're not like Jesus. Jesus never corrupted. Your headed for ashes.

You want to lawyer and argue your way out of it because you got duped into thinking that having the same nature as God makes someone God, but it doesn't. Don't be mad at me, be mad at the people who put you in a spiritual prison trying to keep you weak your whole life. I am sure you will wake up soon after you read more about your potential according to Scripture.

 

[praise_yeshua]

So you reject the authority Jesus gave to his disciples? Not sure what your point is.

Authority is a tricky thing. Scoundrels like yourself are always claiming authority they don't have. You're an evil plaque among humanity. Always claiming to be something when you're nothing.

 

[Runningman]

Physically bowing can be included but it doesn't really mean anything. It a matter of the heart.

You can bow because you have no choice otherwise. That isn't worship. This man cared about Jesus. He wasn't like you.

Physically bowing is a separate thing from spirit and truth worship. You worship a god that Jesus didn't teach Christians to worship. Why do you not worship the Father like a true worshipper?

 

[praise_yeshua]

You want to lawyer and argue your way out of it because you got duped into thinking that having the same nature as God makes someone God, but it doesn't. Don't be mad at me, be mad at the people who put you in a spiritual prison trying to keep you weak your whole life. I am sure you will wake up soon after you read more about your potential according to Scripture.

You don't have the same nature. My problem is with you. Not anyone else. You're a fake.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Physically bowing is a separate thing from spirit and truth worship. You worship a god that Jesus didn't teach Christians to worship. Why do you not worship the Father like a true worshipper?

I only have access to the Father through the Son dummy. You don't have any access to the Father apart from the Son do you?

 

[Runningman]

You don't have the same nature. My problem is with you. Not anyone else. You're a fake.

Maybe you should take a breather. Having a problem with the messenger of Scripture will not help you. I think your problem is with God, Jesus, and the apostles. Maybe you need to pray about it.

 

[Runningman]

I only have access to the Father through the Son dummy. You don't have any access to the Father apart from the Son do you?

Nonsense. Why would only you have exclusive access to God?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Maybe you should take a breather. Having a problem with the messenger of Scripture will not help you. I think your problem is with God, Jesus, and the apostles. Maybe you need to pray about it.

Maybe you need to pray about it yourself. You're not a messenger of God. They have power you don't.

I've meet people before with the "Elijah" problem. You seem to have it. Declare your judgment. You do not frighten me at all.

Do you want me to do the same and we can see who answers?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Nonsense. Why would only you have exclusive access to God?

Read it again. I never said I only had access. You don't have any access to the Father without the Son.

 

[Runningman]

Read it again. I never said I only had access. You don't have any access to the Father without the Son.

Notice that access to the Only True God is through Jesus. No access to a trinity since that doesn't exist.

 

[Runningman]

Maybe you need to pray about it yourself. You're not a messenger of God. They have power you don't.

I've meet people before with the "Elijah" problem. You seem to have it. Declare your judgment. You do not frighten me at all.

Do you want me to do the same and we can see who answers?

What's on the chopping block is your idol, not me. I am not saying I am perfect, but the sin of idolatry isn't my issue in the trinity forum. Yes, let's pray. I will pray to my God and you pray to your god. Not to test God, but maybe you need to get knocked down a peg or two.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Notice that access to the Only True God is through Jesus. No access to a trinity since that doesn't exist.

Are you a gateway to anything yourself?

You just keep pretending don't you?

 

[praise_yeshua]

What's on the chopping block is your idol, not me. I am not saying I am perfect, but the sin of idolatry isn't my issue in the trinity forum. Yes, let's pray. I will pray to my God and you pray to your god. Not to test God, but maybe you need to get knocked down a peg or two.

You're the one claiming to be a messenger of God. That requires power. Didn't Paul demand that those in Corinth turn over a man to Satan? You talk big but you have no power at all. Just lies and empty claims.
I'll gladly worship Jesus Christ. You're trying to keep me from loving Jesus Christ properly.

Are you pressing forward to an high calling in Jesus Christ yourself? Have you abandoned everything to win Jesus Christ. To attain to His Resurrection. God/He knows you need it.

 

[Runningman]

You're the one claiming to be a messenger of God. That requires power. Didn't Paul demand that those in Corinth turn over a man to Satan? You talk big but you have no power at all. Just lies and empty claims.
I'll gladly worship Jesus Christ. You're trying to keep me from loving Jesus Christ properly.

Are you pressing forward to an high calling in Jesus Christ yourself? Have you abandoned everything to win Jesus Christ. To attain to His Resurrection. God/He knows you need it.

I am just showing you what the Bible says which makes me a messenger, yes, absolutely. So you deny the exclusive deity of the Father, you deny the Father as the one the true worshippers worship, you have a lot of strange beliefs compared to what the Bible says.

I wouldn't worry about me, I would worry about the hot water you're in with your unrepentant idolatry. Maybe what you've been doing "feels" right, but what we "feel" versus what is true don't always align. You can't just blindly follow your religion because your handlers at church told you it's the way to do things. Why don't you study the Bible for yourself, drop the trinity idea, and you'll see what it's actually saying. Or don't. You can keep arguing if you wish.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I am just showing you what the Bible says which makes me a messenger, yes, absolutely. So you deny the exclusive deity of the Father, you deny the Father as the one the true worshippers worship, you have a lot of strange beliefs compared to what the Bible says.

I wouldn't worry about me, I would worry about the hot water you're in with your unrepentant idolatry. Maybe what you've been doing "feels" right, but what we "feel" versus what is true don't always align. You can't just blindly follow your religion because your handlers at church told you it's the way to do things. Why don't you study the Bible for yourself, drop the trinity idea, and you'll see what it's actually saying. Or don't. You can keep arguing if you wish.

I know what the Bible says. I know what many different Bibles says. You're not a messenger to me. I don't need you.

I don't have any handlers. I don't have many different masters like yourself.

The Father isn't going to be angry with me treating His son just like Him.

You don't know what it is to be a father.

 

[mikesw]

I am just showing you what the Bible says which makes me a messenger, yes, absolutely. So you deny the exclusive deity of the Father, you deny the Father as the one the true worshippers worship, you have a lot of strange beliefs compared to what the Bible says.

I wouldn't worry about me, I would worry about the hot water you're in with your unrepentant idolatry. Maybe what you've been doing "feels" right, but what we "feel" versus what is true don't always align. You can't just blindly follow your religion because your handlers at church told you it's the way to do things. Why don't you study the Bible for yourself, drop the trinity idea, and you'll see what it's actually saying. Or don't. You can keep arguing if you wish.

You again demonstrate a gnostic stance by claiming specialized insight in opposition to scripture by which you claim all Christians have mistaken who Jesus is for 2000 years. That is rather a boastful claim that only your little clan is the one holding the truth of Christ.
If somehow you could claim truth here, you should be able to make a convincing argument. But you don't and can't.

 

[civic]

That's bowing down. Not God worship. Belief in Jesus and God aren't the same category of belief. Jesus was clear about this much.

John 14
1“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe in Me as well.

The Greek word προσκυνέω means to worship by bowing down in a prostrate position.

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