7 Reasons the church does not go through the great tribulation

NO . In fact we too actually hate them .
FOR ye shall not hate your neighbor in your heart you shall in any way correct them and not allow SIN upon them .
WELL allowing one to REMAIN IN UNBELIEF IS SIN as well as allowing them to remain in any sin .
And i PROMISE US ALL
that if one claims they love GOD and YET DENY HIS CHRIST , THEY Have NOT the love of GOD in them
and DENY GOD . SO hows that fora real simple answer .
In fact if i even gave all my goods to the poor , many hugs and etc
AND YET I myself have not CHARITY , PROFITS ME NADA .
AND what does CHARITY REJOICE IN AGAIN . THE TRUTH . I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE .
yet many think hugs and feeding the poor is What matters and that it matters NOT WHO they BELEIVED
Do you ever get the feeling MANY are being decieved by the dark one
WHO also can say GOD IS LOVE but leads them into REBELLION TO GOD t hrough his version of love .
CAUSE I KNOW he can and HE has been and so has much of christendom as well .
ON the day of the LORD , ON the DAY of the LORD , many will wail .
That's wonderful.😗
 
Lets not and say we did.
Here is a reminder for us all .
Have you noticed that this generation is huge about lets not offend anyone and lets just get along .
And yet examination upon what they allow , overlook and even call good
ITS darn sure certain they worry NOT at all about OFFENDING GOD .
HAve you noticed this generation has become huge on trying to please man
Yet by doing so accepts and overlooks MANY things NOT PLEASING TO GOD .
And now a word from paul
for if i were to please man i would NOT be the servant of CHRIST .
any guesses on why that is ......
Cause that which pleases man IS an abomination to GOD . THis generation does everything now
to please the flesh of man . AND that is why more and more sins are accepted and darn sure not corrected .
And that is why now at the last even UNBELEIF is becoming accepted
I would like for us all to return to the bible and enjoy it daily .
WHEN we do compare how JESUS did all things , TO todays version of jesus
and when we do notice how the apostels did things ,
compared to todays leaders . And you will soon see , OH dear WE ARE BEING DEcIEVED and have been LED
astray . Feel free to put me to the test on this . BIBLE TIME everyone lets do us some comparing .
 
I'm all for a Pre-trib Rapture. One reason is because Jesus did say, “Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh” Matthew 24:44

The only time frame I can think of when we believers would not be expecting Jesus to return would have to be before the tribulation.
 
I'm all for a Pre-trib Rapture. One reason is because Jesus did say, “Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh” Matthew 24:44

The only time frame I can think of when we believers would not be expecting Jesus to return would have to be before the tribulation.
Precious friend, would not "expecting Him before the Great Trib" be the Imminent 'expectation'?
According to Paul's own expectation [ in his own day? ], he stated: "...we which are alive and​
remain Shall Be Caught Up..." (1 Thessalonians 4:17 AV)​

So, following our 'pattern' (1 Timothy 1:16 AV), shouldn't we be "doing the same"(?) as taught in:

Blessed Hope, "looking, watching, and patiently waiting For The LORD Jesus Christ!"
(2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19; Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25; 1 Corinthians 1:7;
Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10;
1 Thessalonians 5:5-11 AV)

"Looking for that Blessed Hope, and The Glorious Appearing Of
The Great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ!" (Titus 2:13 AV)​

Amen.

More Biblical Agreement with 'pre-trib' is here: God's Great Grace Departure!
 
I've been getting complaints about this thread and after looking it over it looks like their is a rule violation happening.

Rule 2e-Do not attack another member's character in any way. Address the post content, not the member's character, family, denominational affiliation, religion or any other subject that may be perceived as a personal attack by the Berean Board team and is not germane to the topic or post at hand.

Stay on topic and do not tell other members what they should believe. Do not harass other members.

your cooperation would be greatly appreciated in this matter.
Implying someone is not christian in a round about way, who has often stated indeed to be christian, just happened to me here in the last day or two, and is also a rule violation, however subtle it may be.. Often this goes along with having altered what i believe or said, either based on not understanding or intentional I do not know.)
 
I'm all for a Pre-trib Rapture. One reason is because Jesus did say, “Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh” Matthew 24:44

The only time frame I can think of when we believers would not be expecting Jesus to return would have to be before the tribulation.
Yes... rapture first, then tribulation (but without tribulation implying that many of Jacob won't be saved after tribulation given that Christ and His 2 witnesses visit jacob during trib.)
 
@civic
And scripture says the kingdom of God is in you.
Are you referring to this verse:

Luke 17:21
“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

Civic, you are not following the method of godly men in the scriptures, where they:

Nehemiah 8:8​

“So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.”

You are running with the sound bites (the kingdom of God is within you) of the scriptures and not searching for the true biblical meaning of the text you are taking you teaching from.

Luke 17:20​

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

1) The Pharisees demanded from Christ to tell them when the kingdom of God should come, a kingdom like YOU believe in that shall be on this present earth in Jerusalem etc.

2) The Lord made it very clear that the kingdom of God will NOT come with observation, as they believe that it would come, just as you and others believe it shall one day shall come to this earth, after a so-called seven years of tribulation period, etc.

3) Jesus said: "behold, the kingdom of God is within you." The blinded Pharisees were still looking for God to come a set up his kingdom in the Israel, in the land of the middle east~nothing could be so far from the truth!

Jesus said ~ "Behold" the kingdom of God is within you, or, within your very midst! They had no clue that Jesus Christ the King of the the true Israel of God was standing in their midst and they rejected and hated him for no other reason then the gracious words that fell from his lips, for no man ever spoke as he spake, tet they rejected very word that he said! They accused him of being devil possessed, just as the generation of vipers today reject his people and the truth they they teach.

The kingdom of heaven/God one and the same did not come with great pomp and observation, but the king came as poor member of the Jewish people, totally unknown by most, born not in a palace, but in the stable, to two poor parents. Lived a life of a pleasant, and did not have a place to lay his head, etc.
So your pov holds no water its nothing but your bias opinion to deny premillinnealism.
Bias opinion? I would to God just you and I would debate one on one this subject, and let us see who has an bias opinion. I try to get you to do so at the start of this thread with no success.

Let us start with the doctrine of a secret Rapture that premillennialism whole system stands or fall. Let me know, or, we can start wherever you desire to do so.
 
Let us start with the doctrine of a secret Rapture
Precious friend, I have waited for many years for a kind and humble discussion
about this Very thing, as I have my own personal [ 17-part ] study done over a period of
18 months I took off from the crazy u-tube accusations of heretic, lie from the pits of hell,
etc., and these continue on all the forums I have been on.

Start a new thread? If @civic "turns you down" of course 😇
 

What is the concept of a secret rapture?​

The doctrine of the secret Rapture is the belief that Jesus will first return secretly to take all living and dead Christians to heaven to be with him, a process called the "gathering" or "rapture". This event, which proponents believe occurs before a seven-year Great Tribulation, would be secret and invisible to the rest of the world. Following the Rapture, the tribulation would commence on Earth, and after this period, Jesus would return visibly with believers to judge the world.
 
Precious friend, I have waited for many years for a kind and humble discussion
about this Very thing, as I have my own personal [ 17-part ] study done over a period of
18 months I took off from the crazy u-tube accusations of heretic, lie from the pits of hell,
etc., and these continue on all the forums I have been on.

Start a new thread? If @civic "turns you down" of course 😇
I’m not into the ego of “ winning “ a debate. Most often they are not cordial encounters and usually ends up putting people down insulting them most of the time.
 
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