praise_yeshua
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So God doesn't keep you from falling?then nothing you said above makes any sense concerning sanctification, which is why you are confusing me
Believers do not persevere. that is why I reject Calvinist perseverance of the saints. If I must persevere. then I am saving myself and salvation can be lost if I fail
God keeps us. as he said, non will be lost (john 6)
I don't believe you understand what you're saying. It is circular to you. You start with you and end with you.
Jud 1:24 Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy
So which is it? Do you actual believe in effectual sanctification or not?