Why is Christianity so much work?

[AlwaysOnAJourney]

I know someone that feels that God is calling them to World Missions. They listened to a podcast by the voice of the martyrs and they said their heart was stirred by what they heard. They tried to figure out a way to go to those people. What they were able to do is join YWAM Crossroads. It is for people who are older than the typical collage age, that does this sort of thing.

What has been bothering me so much is the training part of the program. It is three months of training.

This appears to be some of the things they are training for:

How to hear God’s voice

Encounter God in the Bible

Holy Spirit and His gifts

Worship and intercession

How to preach the Gospel

Repentance and forgiveness

I will be the FIRST to admit that I don't know how to hear God's voice over my own thoughts etc. BUT, I have never seen anyone in SCRIPTURE being taught "how to hear God's voice" That really bugs me, because as Christians, we have already asked Jesus into our hearts. I think the Holy Spirit comes in at the same time. I know that some people argue that you got to ask for the Holy Spirit, or receive it later. That kind of thing. Why isn't that enough to solve the "How to hear Gods' voice" part of it?

Encounter God in the Bible? Do people really need to be trained on how to encounter God in the Bible? The Bible tells you that it is God's word. Since it is God's word already, why does anyone need this training? I don't understand. I feel like, just read the word and believe it. Done.

Holy Spirit and His gifts? What bothers me about this is, I can think of nobody in the Bible that had to learn this! What I see in scripture is that the Holy Spirit came on people and it was done. You didn't need to learn it.

Sometimes Christianity tires me out because it feels like Jesus is never enough. You always want more and more, and after a while, you start going to teachers to try and obtain more than what the word of God is already telling you.

I am not against those who have the gift of teaching, teaching the Bible. That is not the point i'm trying to make here. The point I'm trying to make here is how come we got to work to learn such basic things? And then it takes a total of 3 months to do it?

Just as I was getting ready to post this, I had another thought come to me.

If we as Christians need to learn these basic things. Then why on Earth isn't the local Churches doing a better job teaching everyone these things???

I would like you to please pray for me. I feel that there is something wrong with me. Somehow I have developed an emotional or maybe spiritual connection to this person. And I am even feeling a bit jealous of them. What I'm jealous of, is how much support this person got from their Church and many friends to do something like this. I don't have any friends to speak of. I am a 2nd shift Janitor for a School, I have a learning disability, and I don't have a Church body that I fit into. It is not because I didn't try. It is because I'm not the kind of person that is accepted by others. I can't explain it. I try to be in God's word as much as possible. I try to pray as much as possible. I try to be kind and caring as much as possible in real life. I try to be a generous person, and someone that shares with others. And yet here I am an outcast. Anyways my stomach has been bothering me, and my blood pressure has been running high too. My body does seem to be telling me that for some odd reason all of this is bothering me, and I can't seem to get my body to just let it go. Please pray that God will help me to feel peace. If you want to pray for this person and stuff, by all means do that too. Thank you.

 

[Selah]

@AlwaysOnAJourney

Oh wow, yours was the first post I read this morning, and it served as a reminder to me that we are all ambassadors for Christ. You have such a wonderful calling! Your communication abilities are great, and it’s clear that you love Jesus.

God has given you lots of common sense too, and I agree with you.

God is listening,
Selah

 

[AlwaysOnAJourney]

@AlwaysOnAJourney

Oh wow, yours was the first post I read this morning, and it served as a reminder to me that we are all ambassadors for Christ. You have such a wonderful calling! Your communication abilities are great, and it’s clear that you love Jesus.

God has given you lots of common sense too, and I agree with you.

God is listening,
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Firstly thank you for your very kind comment. It means a lot! So often times on Christian forums, people spend too much time correcting each other rather than encouraging each other in the ways they should go. What I mean by this is, when people are constantly correcting, it creates friction and arguments. But if you can see the good in someone, and encourage that good to come out more, then I think people will grow more gracefully. That is how I feel after reading your comment.

I struggle in THE faith, but I have never stopped loving Jesus.

I love Jesus, and I love the person I wrote about. They recently wrote and recently published a book. Last weekend I was able to read that book. I saw some Pentecostal stuff in that book. I'm not against Pentecostals but I know that some of them can go extreme sometimes. I saw somethings in that book that seemed extreme to me. Another problem, every Pentecostal has hurt me emotionally. This person has hurt me. I had Pentecostal Childhood friend. He hurt me. I used to talk a Pentecostal couple online, one time, one of them told me that God told them that someday I will get married and be happy. About a year later, the Woman told me that God told her to tell me that she should never talk to me again! And when I tried to talk with other online friends about it, they all backed this up. I remember wondering, what did I say or do so wrong that God would tell someone to cut me off? A couple years later I found them on another social site, and they contacted me asking for forgiveness, and said that they said it because they was going through depression. We tried to patch up the friendship, and things just got worse between us. It was a sad time. But to make things worse, I was in a relationship, that was not of my own choosing. I was in this relationship because someone else suggested to someone to date me. Things wasn't going well, and I had to finally end it. I was hurting so bad, and when I went to my Pentecostal friend to talk about it, that was when they told me that God told them not to talk to me anymore. Like I said, my experiences with these people hasn't been a good one.

At one of the Churches I used to be apart of. I was the audio guy for this Church. I was 19 years old. I was sitting in the youth group just wanting to take in the lesson. A man knocks on the door, and comes in. Out of the blue He says to me. "God told me to sing today" hands me a cassette tape. I asked him, what side do I play? He replies, "I don't know" laughs and walks away. I get up from my seat, walk out to the sound system, pop the tape in. I had to figure out which side was just the music. Does this sound like God to you? Doesn't God care about me too? I don't have a problem with the idea that God impressed on him to sing something. But how come God didn't include me in on this? Wouldn't God want me in the youth group hearing his message that way, and getting closer to him? I mean He's God! Oh well, whatever...

I'm just saying. I feel concerned for my "friend". And it seems to be a very deep concern. Something that just won't leave me alone. What is this connection I have with this person??? I don't understand, and it hurts.

 

[e v e]

I know someone that feels that God is calling them to World Missions. They listened to a podcast by the voice of the martyrs and they said their heart was stirred by what they heard. They tried to figure out a way to go to those people. What they were able to do is join YWAM Crossroads. It is for people who are older than the typical collage age, that does this sort of thing.

What has been bothering me so much is the training part of the program. It is three months of training.

This appears to be some of the things they are training for:

How to hear God’s voice

Encounter God in the Bible

Holy Spirit and His gifts

Worship and intercession

How to preach the Gospel

Repentance and forgiveness

I will be the FIRST to admit that I don't know how to hear God's voice over my own thoughts etc. BUT, I have never seen anyone in SCRIPTURE being taught "how to hear God's voice" That really bugs me, because as Christians, we have already asked Jesus into our hearts. I think the Holy Spirit comes in at the same time. I know that some people argue that you got to ask for the Holy Spirit, or receive it later. That kind of thing. Why isn't that enough to solve the "How to hear Gods' voice" part of it?

Encounter God in the Bible? Do people really need to be trained on how to encounter God in the Bible? The Bible tells you that it is God's word. Since it is God's word already, why does anyone need this training? I don't understand. I feel like, just read the word and believe it. Done.

Holy Spirit and His gifts? What bothers me about this is, I can think of nobody in the Bible that had to learn this! What I see in scripture is that the Holy Spirit came on people and it was done. You didn't need to learn it.

Sometimes Christianity tires me out because it feels like Jesus is never enough. You always want more and more, and after a while, you start going to teachers to try and obtain more than what the word of God is already telling you.

I am not against those who have the gift of teaching, teaching the Bible. That is not the point i'm trying to make here. The point I'm trying to make here is how come we got to work to learn such basic things? And then it takes a total of 3 months to do it?

Just as I was getting ready to post this, I had another thought come to me.

If we as Christians need to learn these basic things. Then why on Earth isn't the local Churches doing a better job teaching everyone these things???

I would like you to please pray for me. I feel that there is something wrong with me. Somehow I have developed an emotional or maybe spiritual connection to this person. And I am even feeling a bit jealous of them. What I'm jealous of, is how much support this person got from their Church and many friends to do something like this. I don't have any friends to speak of. I am a 2nd shift Janitor for a School, I have a learning disability, and I don't have a Church body that I fit into. It is not because I didn't try. It is because I'm not the kind of person that is accepted by others. I can't explain it. I try to be in God's word as much as possible. I try to pray as much as possible. I try to be kind and caring as much as possible in real life. I try to be a generous person, and someone that shares with others. And yet here I am an outcast. Anyways my stomach has been bothering me, and my blood pressure has been running high too. My body does seem to be telling me that for some odd reason all of this is bothering me, and I can't seem to get my body to just let it go. Please pray that God will help me to feel peace. If you want to pray for this person and stuff, by all means do that too. Thank you.

ever since before Christ's birth here, esau has been busy corrupting theology. By now his corruptions are the orthodox view and 'tradition'. his ugly sorcery kjv and before that his corrupt septuagint are hurting souls. Pastors are not listening to God.

God did not create this body or earth.

 

[e v e]

God does not give tongues or gifts here like that... in this dungeon matrix. it's sorcery.

 

[Keiw1]

I know someone that feels that God is calling them to World Missions. They listened to a podcast by the voice of the martyrs and they said their heart was stirred by what they heard. They tried to figure out a way to go to those people. What they were able to do is join YWAM Crossroads. It is for people who are older than the typical collage age, that does this sort of thing.

What has been bothering me so much is the training part of the program. It is three months of training.

This appears to be some of the things they are training for:

How to hear God’s voice

Encounter God in the Bible

Holy Spirit and His gifts

Worship and intercession

How to preach the Gospel

Repentance and forgiveness

I will be the FIRST to admit that I don't know how to hear God's voice over my own thoughts etc. BUT, I have never seen anyone in SCRIPTURE being taught "how to hear God's voice" That really bugs me, because as Christians, we have already asked Jesus into our hearts. I think the Holy Spirit comes in at the same time. I know that some people argue that you got to ask for the Holy Spirit, or receive it later. That kind of thing. Why isn't that enough to solve the "How to hear Gods' voice" part of it?

Encounter God in the Bible? Do people really need to be trained on how to encounter God in the Bible? The Bible tells you that it is God's word. Since it is God's word already, why does anyone need this training? I don't understand. I feel like, just read the word and believe it. Done.

Holy Spirit and His gifts? What bothers me about this is, I can think of nobody in the Bible that had to learn this! What I see in scripture is that the Holy Spirit came on people and it was done. You didn't need to learn it.

Sometimes Christianity tires me out because it feels like Jesus is never enough. You always want more and more, and after a while, you start going to teachers to try and obtain more than what the word of God is already telling you.

I am not against those who have the gift of teaching, teaching the Bible. That is not the point i'm trying to make here. The point I'm trying to make here is how come we got to work to learn such basic things? And then it takes a total of 3 months to do it?

Just as I was getting ready to post this, I had another thought come to me.

If we as Christians need to learn these basic things. Then why on Earth isn't the local Churches doing a better job teaching everyone these things???

I would like you to please pray for me. I feel that there is something wrong with me. Somehow I have developed an emotional or maybe spiritual connection to this person. And I am even feeling a bit jealous of them. What I'm jealous of, is how much support this person got from their Church and many friends to do something like this. I don't have any friends to speak of. I am a 2nd shift Janitor for a School, I have a learning disability, and I don't have a Church body that I fit into. It is not because I didn't try. It is because I'm not the kind of person that is accepted by others. I can't explain it. I try to be in God's word as much as possible. I try to pray as much as possible. I try to be kind and caring as much as possible in real life. I try to be a generous person, and someone that shares with others. And yet here I am an outcast. Anyways my stomach has been bothering me, and my blood pressure has been running high too. My body does seem to be telling me that for some odd reason all of this is bothering me, and I can't seem to get my body to just let it go. Please pray that God will help me to feel peace. If you want to pray for this person and stuff, by all means do that too. Thank you.

No building on earth called-Church teaches Gods truth. They are mislead by Catholicism( 2Thess 2:3) translating. Catholicism screwed it all up at the councils they held. No protestant religion could fix it because Catholicism removed Gods name( over 7000 places) against Gods will, and translated errors in to fit false council teachings.
It is 100% fact that in the Greek lexicons the Word is not called capitol G God at John 1:1. At both John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4= the only 2 spots in NT where more than one is being called God and god. The true God is called Ton Theon=God at both spots, The Word and satan are both called Theos= god when in the same paragraph with Ton Theon. god means-has godlike qualities. Yet in the error translations they give satan god and the Word God for the same exact word=error. Translating works the same at both spots.