What is so good about the good news?

[jeremiah1five]

Matt 23:38,39

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Mt 23:38–39.

The reason why their house (Temple) was desolate was because He wasn't in it.

At some point during the future Time of Jacob's Trouble Israel will say those words and then I presume it will be after they mourn for Whom they have pierced as He rides in on a white horse (there are animals, dogs, cats, in heaven) and comes alongside Israel and fights for them against EVERYBODY God has gathered against Israel - even the Gentile believers.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
And the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and ethe women ravished;
And half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
And the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations,
As when he fought in the day of battle. Zech. 14:2–3.

 

[Keiw1]

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Mt 23:38–39.

The reason why their house (Temple) was desolate was because He wasn't in it.

At some point during the future Time of Jacob's Trouble Israel will say those words and then I presume it will be after they mourn for Whom they have pierced as He rides in on a white horse (there are animals, dogs, cats, in heaven) and comes alongside Israel and fights for them against EVERYBODY God has gathered against Israel - even the Gentile believers.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
And the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and ethe women ravished;
And half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
And the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations,
As when he fought in the day of battle. Zech. 14:2–3.

They have never said-verse 39 and never will. FACT-A new religion began.= spiritual Israel, meaning-Gods chosen.

 

[jeremiah1five]

They have never said-verse 39 and never will. FACT-A new religion began.= spiritual Israel, meaning-Gods chosen.

There was no new religion.
Biblical Christianity is Completed Judaism.

 

[Keiw1]

There was no new religion.
Biblical Christianity is Completed Judaism.

A new religion that served the Abrahamic God= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) and accepted Jesus as the one he sent forth=The Messiah=Gods son, not God.

 

[jeremiah1five]

A new religion that served the Abrahamic God= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) and accepted Jesus as the one he sent forth=The Messiah=Gods son, not God.

English, please.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

What is so good about the good news?​

That you don't have to go to HELL / Lake of fire for eternity when you die physically.

Next question??

 

[Frank Russell]

When people ask the question "what's so good about the good news?" I remember that angel in revelation that is narrated to be declaring the gospel, but what is being said is "you're doomed" lol. what's up with that?

 

[Complete]

God IS love. Don't doubt His motives in calling you. Don't leave Him at the door knocking. Don't break His heart by turning Him away. Like any good Husband, He wants only that which is for your good. He will never abuse you, hurt you, let you down, disappoint you, dishonor you, or be unfaithful. Whatever your needs are, He will meet them. Whatever endangers you, He will remove. He will never take away that which is good for you, nor give anything that which will hurt you.
He already knows everything there is to be known concerning who you are, where you have been, all you have done. And He still loves you. In Him there is no condemnation, no shame, no embarrassment. Whatever debt you feel you owe God for whatever transgressions you may have made, that debt is paid for. In full. There is no interest to be paid...no further deposits to be made...no more installments necessary to make up the price of your ransom. The Son of God has already paid the full price of your redemption in the name of His Father, therefore you are His. Wholly His, lock, stock, and barrel. Let Him now take charge of that which He has purchased with His own blood, and begin a new life; an abundant life; a life free from sin, addiction, worry, fear.
Let today be the first day of eternity.

Subject Heading:- 'What is good about the good news?'

Hello @Brakelite,

The words you have used at the beginning of your OP, 'like any good Husband', are arresting my attention, and causing me to wonder why you have used them. Will you please tell me why you have used the relationship of 'husband' here?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Brakelite]

When people ask the question "what's so good about the good news?" I remember that angel in revelation that is narrated to be declaring the gospel, but what is being said is "you're doomed" lol. what's up with that?

Good question, and you are correct. But who was he talking to?

 

[Brakelite]

Subject Heading:- 'What is good about the good news?'

Hello @Brakelite,

The words you have used at the beginning of your OP, 'like any good Husband', are arresting my attention, and causing me to wonder why you have used them. Will you please tell me why you have used the relationship of 'husband' here?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

We as God's people, spiritual Israel, I believe are to consider God as our Husband, just as Israel of old.

KJV Isaiah 54:5
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Like every other one of God's good gifts entrusted to the keeping of humanity, marriage has been perverted by sin; but it is the purpose of the gospel to restore its purity and beauty. In both the Old and the New Testament the marriage relation is employed to represent the tender and sacred union that exists between Christ and His people, the redeemed ones whom He has purchased at the cost of Calvary.

He is also our Father, and again, human relationships have been destroyed through sin and children abused, neglected, even destroyed by their own fathers. I understand that children of abusive parents, and wives of abusive husbands can feel justifiably aggrieved at being told God is a Father and/or a Husband to those He has redeemed, but as Paul tells in Ephesians, the husband is to die for his wife, just as Christ did for His church.

 

[jeremiah1five]

God IS love. Don't doubt His motives in calling you. Don't leave Him at the door knocking. Don't break His heart by turning Him away. Like any good Husband, He wants only that which is for your good. He will never abuse you, hurt you, let you down, disappoint you, dishonor you, or be unfaithful.

With your reference to "husband" that marital relationship according to Scripture is husband God and "Bride " Israel. If you are referencing "Gentiles" you would be in error. God made no covenant with Gentiles and there is no evidence of Gentiles being His Bride to His husband in the Hebrew Scriptures of Law, Psalms, and Prophets. Now, you can proceed from there.

Whatever your needs are, He will meet them. Whatever endangers you, He will remove. He will never take away that which is good for you, nor give anything that which will hurt you.
He already knows everything there is to be known concerning who you are, where you have been, all you have done. And He still loves you. In Him there is no condemnation, no shame, no embarrassment. Whatever debt you feel you owe God for whatever transgressions you may have made, that debt is paid for. In full. There is no interest to be paid...no further deposits to be made...no more installments necessary to make up the price of your ransom. The Son of God has already paid the full price of your redemption in the name of His Father, therefore you are His. Wholly His, lock, stock, and barrel. Let Him now take charge of that which He has purchased with His own blood, and begin a new life; an abundant life; a life free from sin, addiction, worry, fear.
Let today be the first day of eternity.

 

[Brakelite]

With your reference to "husband" that marital relationship according to Scripture is husband God and "Bride " Israel. If you are referencing "Gentiles" you would be in error. God made no covenant with Gentiles and there is no evidence of Gentiles being His Bride to His husband in the Hebrew Scriptures of Law, Psalms, and Prophets. Now, you can proceed from there.

With all respect, you are incorrect.
KJV Isaiah 56:6-7
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

 

[jeremiah1five]

With all respect, you are incorrect.
KJV Isaiah 56:6-7
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Prophetic of the era of King Jesus sitting on the throne of David.
And "taking hold" of God's covenant and God's covenant with the House of Israel are two different things:
Take note:

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

If there is anyone of whom this covenant doesn't mention they are outside this covenant God made between Himself and Abraham and to his seed, and Gentiles are not his seed.

 

[Complete]

We as God's people, spiritual Israel, I believe are to consider God as our Husband, just as Israel of old.

KJV Isaiah 54:5
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Like every other one of God's good gifts entrusted to the keeping of humanity, marriage has been perverted by sin; but it is the purpose of the gospel to restore its purity and beauty. In both the Old and the New Testament the marriage relation is employed to represent the tender and sacred union that exists between Christ and His people, the redeemed ones whom He has purchased at the cost of Calvary.

He is also our Father, and again, human relationships have been destroyed through sin and children abused, neglected, even destroyed by their own fathers. I understand that children of abusive parents, and wives of abusive husbands can feel justifiably aggrieved at being told God is a Father and/or a Husband to those He has redeemed, but as Paul tells in Ephesians, the husband is to die for his wife, just as Christ did for His church.

Hello @Brakelite,

Thank you for explaining your reason for using the figure of 'Husband'.

I will not derail the thread by taking it further at this time.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[jeremiah1five]

We as God's people, spiritual Israel, I believe are to consider God as our Husband, just as Israel of old.

How can Gentiles be "spiritual Israel" when they are not even natural Israel? To be of the seed of Abraham one has to be born of his family descendants and nowhere in the Law, Psalms, and Prophets does God make covenant with Gentiles towards salvation.
Nothing has happened to Israel. God is betrothed to Israel and that would make Israel His Bride.
The true Church of God also is Israel. And no, Gentiles are not grafted into the natural Olive tree becaiuse nowhere in the Law, Psalms, and Prophets are Gentiles called or referred to an Olive tree let alone a "wild" Olive tree.
You're making things up. Do some independent study and look at this with an honest 'heart' and see the things I am saying are true.

KJV Isaiah 54:5
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

God is Husband and Israel His Bride.

Like every other one of God's good gifts entrusted to the keeping of humanity, marriage has been perverted by sin; but it is the purpose of the gospel to restore its purity and beauty. In both the Old and the New Testament the marriage relation is employed to represent the tender and sacred union that exists between Christ and His people, the redeemed ones whom He has purchased at the cost of Calvary.

You call out the sin and perversion men make of the marriage relationship and then proceed to pervert God's marriage relationship to Israel by having Him to have a second bride: Gentiles.
Don't you know what having two brides means? You make God and His Christ an adulterer to marry two brides. Even God commands His people to NOT love the world (non-covenant inhabitants) nor the things of the world" and also James warns through the Holy Spirit:

4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
James 4:4.

He is also our Father, and again, human relationships have been destroyed through sin and children abused, neglected, even destroyed by their own fathers. I understand that children of abusive parents, and wives of abusive husbands can feel justifiably aggrieved at being told God is a Father and/or a Husband to those He has redeemed, but as Paul tells in Ephesians, the husband is to die for his wife, just as Christ did for His church.

The Church is Israel. God promised a Redeemer to and for Israel and Isaiah prophesies that God's Redeemer is to die for Israel God's people.
And if Christ is husband to the Church of God who is Israel, then you are correct a husband dies for His Bride (Israel) and that is exactly what Christ did. He died and resurrected for His Bride who is Israel (Eph. 5:25.) In doing so fulfilled many prophecies of His Redeeming work on behalf of God's Chosen people and the apple of His Eye:
ISRAEL.
Study it. Teach it. It is the Word of God.
And since you've been posting after I sent you a PM to discuss something and you ignore and haven't responded I believe I called on the wrong person to share my thoughts.
So, moving along I prefer you don't answer, and I'll just meet up with you on post.

 

[Brakelite]

To be of the seed of Abraham one has to be born of his family descendants

Indeed. Tell me. Prophecy informs us, and the word of God cannot lie, that the Messiah was to be called, everlasting Father. Who is Jesus the Father of?

God is betrothed to Israel and that would make Israel His Bride.

Israel, as a nation, broke off the engagement when they murdered their intended.

You call out the sin and perversion men make of the marriage relationship and then proceed to pervert God's marriage relationship to Israel by having Him to have a second bride: Gentiles.

There is one legal biblically justifiable cause for divorce, and that is adultery. Israel, as a nation, throughout its history committed adultery by going after other gods. Killing their own children in sacrifice to them. Murdering the very prophets who warned them to repent. "Surely they shall hear My Son, My only begotten Son". Did they?

 

[Brakelite]

By the way. Go back into scripture and read again all the promises God made to Israel. They were, without exception, conditional. As is the salvation promised to us. You tell me I ought to read the Bible and learn. You write as if you have much knowledge and wisdom. I think you have yet much to learn, and much to unlearn.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Indeed. Tell me. Prophecy informs us, and the word of God cannot lie, that the Messiah was to be called, everlasting Father. Who is Jesus the Father of?

That's a good one and hard to decipher. The only thing I can think of - and I want to be careful not to be called a Modalist - but this is a reference to more than one Person: Trinity.

Israel, as a nation, broke off the engagement when they murdered their intended.

It doesn't matter. God KEEPS His Promises knowing what was to befall His Son. And with that it wasn't man or men that killed His Son. It was the Father.
Like Abraham was commanded to sacrifice Isaac, except there was no one to stay the hand of the Father who smote His Son.

There is one legal biblically justifiable cause for divorce, and that is adultery.

Yes, but from the beginning it was not so.

Israel, as a nation, throughout its history committed adultery by going after other gods. Killing their own children in sacrifice to them. Murdering the very prophets who warned them to repent. "Surely they shall hear My Son, My only begotten Son". Did they?

Only ONE unatoned sin will keep you from God and all it takes for those whose names are not in the book of life is one sin to keep them eternally separated from God. But God's elect, those whose names are in the book of life have all their sins atoned past, present, and future.
Thank God.

 

[Brakelite]

That's a good one and hard to decipher. The only thing I can think of - and I want to be careful not to be called a Modalist - but this is a reference to more than one Person: Trinity.

It doesn't matter. God KEEPS His Promises knowing what was to befall His Son. And with that it wasn't man or men that killed His Son. It was the Father.
Like Abraham was commanded to sacrifice Isaac, except there was no one to stay the hand of the Father who smote His Son.

Yes, but from the beginning it was not so.

Only ONE unatoned sin will keep you from God and all it takes for those whose names are not in the book of life is one sin to keep them eternally separated from God. But God's elect, those whose names are in the book of life have all their sins atoned past, present, and future.
Thank God.

KJV Matthew 21:33-46
33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him
for a prophet.

And since you've been posting after I sent you a PM to discuss something and you ignore and haven't responded I believe I called on the wrong person to share my thoughts.
So, moving along I prefer you don't answer, and I'll just meet up with you on post.

Didn't ignore your message, just answered it in response to posts here. I agree with your summation of biblical history. I don't agree with your brief that God keeps His promises regardless of our lack of faithfulness to the conditions and criteria inherent in them.

 

[jeremiah1five]

KJV Matthew 21:33-46
33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him
for a prophet.


Didn't ignore your message, just answered it in response to posts here. I agree with your summation of biblical history. I don't agree with your brief that God keeps His promises regardless of our lack of faithfulness to the conditions and criteria inherent in them.

God will keep ALL His Promises He's made to Abraham and the children of Israel even though Israel had been unfaithful and sinned against God. The whole purpose of creating man is to call out a people to Himself from out of the world and redeem them.