civic
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Yes forever the resurrected glorified God manifest in the flesh . A man forever. The son of man and the Son of God. Divine and human in one divine Person.
What is at stake if we deny the Resurrection of Christ ?
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atpollard
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Not much ... just righteousness and salvation:
Romans 10:9-10 [KJV]
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
civic
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Exactly some people think it’s optional but its mandatory
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Azriel
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Lord of lords.
“These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.” Revelation 17:14 KJV
For He is Lord of all lords and King of all kings. Over every age — He Reigns. Over every age — He Rules. Our God Rules forever. Forever He stands alone. He is Lord forevermore. Who is like our God? Who is like our King? All Authority, Glory, and Honor belong to Him.
In Him, there is wholeness. In Him, there is fullness of Joy. In Him, we are complete. Who is like our Reigning King? For our Lord sits on the Throne forevermore. Who is like our Glorious Wonder? Besides Him — there is no other. There is none who can compare. There is none who can compete. There is no one who can come close.
For our Lord sits on the Throne — alone. For He is Lord of lords and He is King of kings. “Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.” Isaiah 44:8
“These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.” Revelation 17:14 KJV
For He is Lord of all lords and King of all kings. Over every age — He Reigns. Over every age — He Rules. Our God Rules forever. Forever He stands alone. He is Lord forevermore. Who is like our God? Who is like our King? All Authority, Glory, and Honor belong to Him.
In Him, there is wholeness. In Him, there is fullness of Joy. In Him, we are complete. Who is like our Reigning King? For our Lord sits on the Throne forevermore. Who is like our Glorious Wonder? Besides Him — there is no other. There is none who can compare. There is none who can compete. There is no one who can come close.
For our Lord sits on the Throne — alone. For He is Lord of lords and He is King of kings. “Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.” Isaiah 44:8
savedbygrace
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All praise, honor, glory to our King who reigns forever more from heavens throne where He sits as our Glorious resurrected Savior. As He promised He has prepared a place for us that where He is we may also be and will return to bring us with Him. I await that day when I will receive my wonderful and glorious body like Jesus where righteousness dwells forever and there will be no more sin in these corruptible earthly bodies we now dwell. But we shall be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye and we will be raised imperishable.
civic
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Amen !
civic
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Amen as Jesus knew His bodily Resurrection was at the center of the Gospel. The Resurrection is what gives life and His death is what provides forgiveness of sins.
Complete
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Hello @dizerner, @civic
I understand why you included this song here. It's lyrics reflect my own thoughts too: For, 'if heaven' (i.e., resurrection life) had never been promised to me, it's been worth just having the Lord in my life.' (quote lyrics) - 'Living in a world of darkness He brought me the light'.
* It is also the believer's own resurrection which will save them from the wrath to come.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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Olde Tymer
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Paroles and pardons are nice but they leave one's criminal history on the books.
That's not a good thing because those histories will be examined at the great white
throne event depicted by Rev 20:11-15. It's crucial that people get their histories
wiped prior to that day so that when the books are opened, it will look as though
they've never been anything but innocent their entire lives. That way God will have
nothing with which to accuse them.
● Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins, and was raised to life
for our justification.
The Greek word translated "justification" roughly pertains to acquittal, i.e. a verdict
of innocence due to lack of sufficient evidence to convict, viz: exoneration.
Note that Jesus' crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to gain folks exoneration, viz:
had his crucified dead body not been restored to life, we'd all remain in very grave
danger of facing justice at the great white throne event.
● 1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, then your faith is useless, and you
are still under condemnation for your sins.
FAQ: How might an interested party obtain this exoneration?
REPLY: Well; you could try speaking up for yourself.
Find a quiet moment. Cover your face with your hands for a sense of privacy and
simply speak with God saying, in so many words:
"God, I'm a sinner with a lot to answer for. I would like to take advantage of your
son's death and resurrection if I may. Thank You."
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Paroles and pardons are nice but they leave one's criminal history on the books.
That's not a good thing because those histories will be examined at the great white
throne event depicted by Rev 20:11-15. It's crucial that people get their histories
wiped prior to that day so that when the books are opened, it will look as though
they've never been anything but innocent their entire lives. That way God will have
nothing with which to accuse them.
● Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins, and was raised to life
for our justification.
The Greek word translated "justification" roughly pertains to acquittal, i.e. a verdict
of innocence due to lack of sufficient evidence to convict, viz: exoneration.
Note that Jesus' crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to gain folks exoneration, viz:
had his crucified dead body not been restored to life, we'd all remain in very grave
danger of facing justice at the great white throne event.
● 1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, then your faith is useless, and you
are still under condemnation for your sins.
FAQ: How might an interested party obtain this exoneration?
REPLY: Well; you could try speaking up for yourself.
Find a quiet moment. Cover your face with your hands for a sense of privacy and
simply speak with God saying, in so many words:
"God, I'm a sinner with a lot to answer for. I would like to take advantage of your
son's death and resurrection if I may. Thank You."
_
Bob Carabbio
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The "Ressurection" biblically is the PROOF that Jesus' SIN OFFERING was acceptable to Father, and the "Gospel" was complete, salvation was REAL, and MY SIN could be cleansed by FAITH (Eph 2:8,9).
Whether we (theologically) deny it or not is relatively unimportant, since the Ressurection HAPPENED, regardless of our "theological opinion" of it in our ignorance.
Salvation only depends on our Surrender, and Repentance, in FAITH under the conviction of SIN, and Judgement from the Holy Spirit, that when we call upon God, he won't turn us away, and He'll send His Holy SPirit to indwell us. THEN we can start to develop our "Theology" as we take His yoke on us, and begin to LEARN OF HIM.
Johann
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The Resurrection of Christ in Early Christian Preaching
Some of us put so much emphasis on the death of Christ that we neglect his resurrection. But to do that is to make the gospel less offensive than it was intended. The gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing. Why? Both because it is a message about a dead Jew hanging on a Roman cross that purports to have some relevance to my life; and because that dead Jew allegedly came to life again. And precisely because of this, he can forgive my sins! Now that, my friends, is a foolish message . . . to those who are on their way to hell. And admittedly, it took plenty of persuasive powers for God to convince us otherwise.
The early church took the resurrection of Christ seriously. It was the cornerstone of their preaching. Look at the sermons in Acts:
Acts 1:22 (criterion for selection of an apostle)--”one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.”
Acts 2:23-24, the keynote in Peter’s first sermon on the day of Pentecost: “this Jesus, who was delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. But God raised him up, having destroyed the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it.”
Acts 3:15 (Peter’s second sermon)--”you killed the Author of life, whom God raised from the dead. To this we are witnesses.”
Note also the following: Acts 4:2 (“they were preaching in Jesus the resurrection from the dead”--that is, that because of him we too can be raised!); 4:10; 4:33; 13:30, 34; Acts 17:3; 17:18, 31; 23:6; 24:21; 26:23 .
Also, note 1 Thess 1:9-10 and 1 Cor 15: 3-5. The church embraced the resurrection as both true and central to the preaching of the gospel.
(3) What’s at Stake?
What’s at stake? Everything! (Rudolf Bultmann, the most influential NT scholar of this century: he wanted to salvage Christianity for the modern man, but by evacuating from the gospel any semblance of the supernatural. The cost was too great. The apostle Paul could not agree less with Bultmann: note 1 Cor 15:12-19). (As a young man, I had a pastor who argued that even if Christ were not raised from the dead, Christians were better off than others because we have embraced a great ethical system that kept our lives clean. Paul argued that we, of all people, should be pitied the most. For him, ethics meant nothing if Christ were still dead. To Paul, truth was the cornerstone of ethics, not a lie.)
I think it is safer to side with Paul than with Bultmann. But it may be helpful to think through the importance of the resurrection. What are the ramifications of the resurrection? Why does it matter?
Significance of the Resurrection of Christ
I’m just going to touch on a few points. No one can do an exhaustive treatment of this great theme. We will never be able to plumb the depths of what Christ’s death and resurrection mean for us, but in the least we can offer a few key points. This is a simple, straightforward message. There’s really nothing fancy about it. For the most part, I’ll just read the biblical text and trust the Holy Spirit to stir up your hearts. If you have not put your faith in Christ, now is certainly an appropriate time to do so.
The Resurrection of Christ: Theological Implications | Bible.org
Introduction Shirley McLaine celebrated her birthday this past spring: she turned 62 and 162 and 262 . . . Many folks in our society today would think that belief in the resurrection is just as looney as belief in reincarnation. Hence, it would be beneficial to look at the historical evidences...
civic
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1 Corinthians 15
12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.
Paul makes it essential to ones faith and salvation above. No resurrection - no faith and one is dead in their sins with no Savior. It cannot be denied and must be affirmed. Its the central part if the gospel message- the centerpiece, the heart of the gospel.
Paul said below:
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve.
Bob Carabbio
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Yup -that's what I said.
But if "Getting Born again" is the issue, then none of that matters. What DOES MATTER is that when you're CONVICTED OF YOUR SIN, and of judgement, that you surrender, repent and call upon God for salvation. No "theology" required. there plenty of time afterwards to confuse yourself with "Denominational Doctrines".
BEFORE you're Born Again, all the "theology" in the world is meaningless, since you can't really understand ANY of it.
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brightfame52
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We deny the resurrection if we say someone who Christ died for and rose again is never born again 1st Peter 1:3
