The Apostles are NOT "wicked men" when they chose to use the Greek word κυριος (kyrios, ‘lord’) when referring to the name of God. Stop slandering them!
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No they did not-You are being mislead.
I'm being led by 4th century extant Greek New Testament Manuscripts. You are being misled by history-ignorant cult heretics.
Jerome changed the tetragramonton to LORD and GOD in the 300,s in the Latin Vulgate-predating your texts if they are even really from the 400,s.
Like all cult leaders, you are leaving out critical information. Jerome bypassed the New Testament Greek text and translated into Latin the Old Testament Hebrew text, not the Greek NT. The Greek NT remained as is, with the Greek word κυριος (kyrios, ‘lord’) referring to the name of God. Stop misrepresenting history and stop slandering the Apostles!
You are the one in error. Every spot of NT where the OT is quoted and the name is in the OT it goes in the NT. Jerome told the Catholic leader that fact.
More cult nonsense from you. The Hebrew Tetragramonton (יהוה) is not found anywhere in the entire Greek NT. Instead, you will see the Greek word κυριος, as written by the Apostles. Can your cult mind understand that?
And you believe Jerome???? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
Jerome had originals, so yes he can be believed about that fact. Jerome as well translated the 4 Gospels in 350 ce. That is when he told the Catholic leader Gods name belonged in the NT. Because it does.More cult nonsense from you. The Hebrew Tetragramonton (יהוה) is not found anywhere in the entire Greek NT. Instead, you will see the Greek word κυριος, as written by the Apostles. Can your cult mind understand that?
And you believe Jerome???? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
How does your cult keep on making Gods name known=YHVH(Jehovah)--Since being a Christian means to be Christlike and Jesus promised to keep on making his Fathers name known.( John 17:6,26)))) He doesn't tell anyone personally, he does it through his 1 real religion and his true followers who are Christlike and keep on making his Fathers name known. How does you and your religion keep throwing facts away? Darkness is why.
It already did belong in the Greek NT as the Greek word κυριος, as written by the Apostles. Nowhere in any extant Greek NT do you see the Hebrew Tetragramonton (יהוה). It is not found anywhere in any extant Greek NT manuscript on planet Earth.
Show me an official unbiased atticle on what exactly your venerated Saint and JW leader Jerone did do.
You have 0 proof. All proof is that Gods name belongs in the NT in over 200 spots. Gods name was in the OT the apostles used. So every spot they quoted in the NT where the name was in the OT they used the name. It was Jerome who removed Gods name from the OT in the 300,s in his Latin Vulgate= recorded history fact.
I see that you continue to spit on all the extant 4th century Greek NT Manuscripts. All cults have that common trait.
You're also totally ignorant of the fact that God's name was already κυριος in the Greek OT (LXX) from the 3rd century BC and onwards. The Apostles just followed that tradition when they wrote the Greek NT. I'm sure you're going to spit on this historical fact also. Cult minds always spit on historical facts and reality.
Translations were altered in the 3rd century. The apostles had nothing to do with the alterations. Catholicism= the great apostasy( son of peredition-2Thess 2:3) altered them. Jesus was NEVER with that religion. Satan started it to mislead. He is the one posing as all false gods in the many false religions-Like this-2Cor 11:12-15)-no protestant branch fixed much even though they tried. Information wasn't to available when they tried. Translations were altered.
The cult to Gods view--A house divided( hundreds of trinity religionsssssssss) will not stand--Yes that darkness calls my religion a cult. All in darkness listen to them, but God will have the final say.
Just as I predicted, you continue to spit on all of the extant 4th century Greek NT Manuscripts and on all of the Greek OT (LXX) Manuscripts that always had God's name as κυριος from the 3rd century BC and afterwards. Cult minds always spit on historical facts and reality. Carry on with your cultic heresies and ignorance.
Good, you just confirmed that Jesus is the true God in 1 John 5:20, see the Greek "θεος",ended like g, right? Arians are caught in their own reasoning. The last phrase as, "Jesus Christ. This is the true God "θεος" and eternal life."
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the son of God has come, and has given to us thought we should know the one true; and we are in the one true, in his son Jesus Christ. This one is the true God, and the life eternal.
1Jn 5:20 And we know G1492 G1161 that G3754 the G3588 son G5207 G3588 of God G2316 has come, G2240 and G2532 has given G1325 to us G1473 thought G1271 that G2443 we should know G1097 the one G3588 true; G228 and G2532 we are G1510.2.4 in G1722 the one G3588 true, G228 in G1722G3588 his son G5207 G1473 Jesus G* Christ. G5547 This one G3778 is G1510.2.3 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 the G3588 life G2222 eternal. G166
1Jn 5:20 οιδαμεν δε G1492 G1161 οτι G3754 ο G3588 υιος G5207 του G3588 θεου G2316 ηκει G2240 και G2532 δεδωκεν G1325 ημιν G1473 διανοιαν G1271 ινα G2443 γινωσκωμεν G1097 τον G3588 αληθινον G228 και G2532 εσμεν G1510.2.4 εν G1722 τω G3588 αληθινω G228 εν G1722 τω G3588 υιω αυτου G5207G1473 Ιησου G* χριστω G5547 ουτος G3778 εστιν G1510.2.3 ο G3588 αληθινος G228 θεος G2316 και G2532 η G3588 ζωη G2222 αιωνιος G166
1Jn 5:20 οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ ἥκει καὶ δέδωκεν ἡμῖν διάνοιαν ἵνα γινώσκωμεν τὸν ἀληθινόν· καὶ ἐσμὲν ἐν τῷ ἀληθινῷ, ἐν τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστῷ. οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἀληθινὸς Θεὸς καὶ ζωὴ αἰώνιος.
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TibiasDad
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Greek nouns have Case: Nominative, Genitive, Dative, and Accusative.
The endings change depending on the case. Theon (θεόν) is the accusative case, while Θεός is the nominative case.
The nominative case is the primary case of the subject of a sentence, while the accusative case is the direct object, which tells us something about the subject. The subject is Ho Logos, the Word, so θεόν tells us something about the Word.
So θεόν is not “the ending for the True God” as opposed to Θεός. Your ignorance of the most basic of Koine Greek is astoundingly obvious.
Doug
TibiasDad
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TibiasDad
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At 1John 5:20--The true one is being called God, not Jesus, they are spoken of separate. Jesus is the true ones son=not God. The true one is God.
Try believing the bible--oh you can't, you use altered translations, altered by satans will to mislead. Even the trinity scholars know 100% at Isaiah 44:6=Gods truth--I am YHVH(Jehovah) beside ME ( NOT WE) there is no other God.
Yes Theos to the Word and Theon to the true God-Why--In both cases John 1:1-2Cor 4:4-Theon= God--Theos= god. 100% fact.
