P1. God sees not as man sees. (1 Chronicles 16:9)
P2. Jesus sees not as man sees. (Revelation 2:23)
P3. Jesus IS God.
Unlike Jesus
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P1. God sees not as man sees. (1 Chronicles 16:9)
P2. Jesus sees not as man sees. (Revelation 2:23)
P3. Jesus IS God.
GeneZ
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You are correct. God is not a man.
But Jesus is not man only....
This where you get hunkered down and keep listening to that voice speaking into your mind.
Why is that spirit your friend?
If it were your friend it would also show you passages that show Jesus in his glorified state is God.
But, that "spirit" won't tell you that.
That is why we are told to "test the spirits."
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1
Wrangler
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Wrong logical conclusion. The right logical conclusion goes against scripture, that Jesus is NOT a man IF ‘sees’ = ‘is’. Otherwise, the logical conclusion is only that Jesus SEES as God sees.
If Jesus is God, then the trinity is false.
Funny how you reject the logic that Jesus is NOT God. He could be like God in 99 ways but that one way is how equality is destroyed.
Wrangler
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The Bible says he’s only a man.
GeneZ
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The Deity of Christ is not for the surface, superficial, short sighted, Bible reader to see.....
"Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!" John 6:62
He was existing in Heaven before the Incarnation! What was he doing there?
That is only one example of what spiritually astute believers will see.
Recently in one post, you complained that I was being snarky with you.
What you are back to pushing here again is the reason why.
Its one thing to be mistaken. But constantly ignoring the corrections that come your way, is being snarky.
Seems that you come here to see how effective you can be with your false teaching. To see how it will hold up with real Christians.
This place is a proving ground for you to see how effective you are. Possibly to make yourself a hero within your sect.
This much I will admit to. Up to a point you are going to be effective.
It will be with a baby Christian, or Christians who live by their emotions and fail to mature.
For the rest of us.... We see you are walking a tightrope with no safety net. We hate to watch.
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I Am!” John 8:58
Some will argue that "I AM" does not mean what He said indicated Deity.
But? The reaction of the Jews hearing him, says otherwise...
"At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself,
slipping away from the temple grounds." John 8:59
Even unbelievers back then got His drift...
So, what's your excuse?
In Christ ..............
Wrangler
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In other words, you admit it is not an actual Biblical teaching and one must rely I to reading what they want into unitarian text.
GeneZ
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No... that's not what I am saying.
But, you're a man with a mission. I just can not determine what sect you herald from.
You might get a warmer reception in a Jehovah Witness forum...
"For in him the whole fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form." Col 2:9
Have a new rabbit hole to pull someone in for that one?
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Jesus does see as God sees which proves Jesus is God.
Leave it to Wrangler to make an outlandish assertion like the above without any proof.
GeneZ
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Why should he start giving proof now?
He cherry picks passages that are representative of Jesus speaking as a man.....
Then wipes his hands... And, claims he knows what he is doing, and you don't.
Its not as if he has not been shown the passages that reveal to Deity of Christ.
He just puts a clamp on them and covers them over with darkness.
Trouble is... The longer we tolerate people like that the longer they can learn from the wrong spirit with pseudo clever ways,
designed to confuse and confound,,,
God does not want them to continue going deeper and deeper into more and more lies. If we keep trying to reason it allows them to come up with more and more lies inspired by the darkness that guides him. That is why God tells us He wants it to be short and sweet.
God wants it to happen as follows.
Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time.
After that, have nothing to do with them." Titus 3:10
After that, have nothing to do with them." Titus 3:10
But too many fail to follow the command.
He won't stop no matter what you present to him.
He will only become more and more emboldened as he sees more and more inspired counters to the sound doctrine.
Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time.
After that, have nothing to do with them." Titus 3:10
After that, have nothing to do with them." Titus 3:10
That means, "don't feed the monster that will mutate to survive."
Feeding him only allows him to feel like he is getting bigger by coming up with more and more 'inspired" denials and distortions..
............................ After that, have nothing to do with them."
Starve the monster. Don't feed him.
Grace and peace ..............
Good points, Gene.
But by not responding do you think lurkers might see it as we are unable to respond to his attacks on the true faith?
Wrangler
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LOL. So having ANYTHING in common with God makes one God. So, this proves we are all God.
Seriously, you arguments are ridiculous. Why doesn’t it bother you that there is no trinity verse in the 66 books of the Bible?
GeneZ
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Obey the Word and God will honor the forum.
Just keep posting...
Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time.
After that, have nothing to do with them." Titus 3:10
Sorry.. I must obey my Lord.
The sooner we become one as a forum body concerning this matter, the quicker he will have to go seek 'leaner' pastures.
He already knows almost anything we would have to say. He's not getting saved by us encouraging him to be heard,
while feeling a sense of power that he lusts for when he will not change.
Its like arguing with a WOKE male who demands we see him as a female.
Yes... insanity exists on different levels.
So be it.
grace and peace ..............
