The unending requirement of faith

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praise_yeshua

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Proof of this is found throughout the Scriptures. However, in my opinion there probably isn't a better example of this than Paul's argument found concerning the work of faith in his own life in "pleasing God" in Philippians chapter 3.

1. "being found IN HIM"....
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

2. The clear desire of faith defined.... "That I may know Him".
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;


3. The need for a life of sincere faith to "ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD"...
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

The same is expressed in Hebrews 11:13 "DIED IN FAITH"....

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises,

Clearly......Endless faith is a requirement to "ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD".....

Notice I didn't say anything about sin. Faith is required to trust God for the continuing forgiveness of sin... Faith men ask for forgiveness for their failures.

4. the trial of faith establishes the "sort of faith" we have. .

1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Faith is not established upon works but there IS... the work of faith that establishes sort of trust that every individual has in this life.
 
praise_yeshua said:
Proof of this is found throughout the Scriptures. However, in my opinion there probably isn't a better example of this than Paul's argument found concerning the work of faith in his own life in "pleasing God" in Philippians chapter 3.

1. "being found IN HIM"....
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

2. The clear desire of faith defined.... "That I may know Him".
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;


3. The need for a life of sincere faith to "ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD"...
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

The same is expressed in Hebrews 11:13 "DIED IN FAITH"....

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises,

Clearly......Endless faith is a requirement to "ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD".....

Notice I didn't say anything about sin. Faith is required to trust God for the continuing forgiveness of sin... Faith men ask for forgiveness for their failures.

4. the trial of faith establishes the "sort of faith" we have. .

1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Faith is not established upon works but there IS... the work of faith that establishes sort of trust that every individual has in this life.
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Requirement ? That sounds like works, law
 
civic said:
Nope faith isn’t a work of the law. You are equivocating again
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If Jesus meant "This is the work required by God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent", then faith is a work. It's not a work of the law, but it's a work. And that means salvation is due in payment for the work. Then grace is not grace.

Jesus said (and meant), "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."
 
brightfame52 said:
You teach requirement salvation, or conditions, that's works/law friend
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Not if you read and believe scripture

Romans 4:1–16 (KJV 1900) — 1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. 10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. 11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: 12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. 16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
 
TomL said:
Not if you read and believe scripture

Romans 4:1–16 (KJV 1900) — 1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. 10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. 11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: 12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. 16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
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You teach requirement salvation, or conditions, that's works/law friend
 
brightfame52 said:
You teach requirement salvation, or conditions, that's works/law friend
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guess you do not read and believe scripture

Romans 4:1–16 (KJV 1900) — 1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. 9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. 10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. 11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: 12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. 16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
 
Presby02 said:
Yes it does. Now all you have to do is put into practice
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no scripture doesn't which is why I reject calvinism- its not in the bible- one must twist the scriptures, isolate them from the rest of the bible to buy what they are selling.
 

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