The State of the Dead
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'We are confident, I say,
and willing rather
to be absent from the body,
and to be present with the Lord.'
(2Cor. 5:8)
Hello @Jamie Russell,
I confess to rushing through the listening of this YouTube link, but I gleaned enough to know that I was in agreement with what was being said within it concerning the state of the dead, re. 2 Corinthians 5:8. It is good to see someone entering on this subject.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
and willing rather
to be absent from the body,
and to be present with the Lord.'
(2Cor. 5:8)
Hello @Jamie Russell,
I confess to rushing through the listening of this YouTube link, but I gleaned enough to know that I was in agreement with what was being said within it concerning the state of the dead, re. 2 Corinthians 5:8. It is good to see someone entering on this subject.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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'But as touching the resurrection of the dead,
have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.'
( Mat 22:31- see also Mark 12:27 & Luke 20:38 )
Hello again, @Jamie Russell,
I came on to enter regarding the words, 'The God of the Living' (above), but found your thread, and thought I would incorporate what I wanted to say within it, for it concerns the state of the dead.
* In these scriptures it is stated that 'God is not the God of the dead, but of the living'. But Traditionists, believing that the 'dead' are 'the living', make God the 'God of the dead', which He distinctly says He is not. Interpreting the words in this way, they ignore the whole context, which shows that the words refer to the RESURRECTION, and not to the dead at all. Notice how this is emphasized in each Gospel:-
* 'Then come unto Him the Sadducees, which say there is no Resurrection' (Matt. 22:23; Mark 12:18; Luke 20:27).
The one issue raised by the Sadducees was the question, 'Whose wife shall she be in the Resurrection?' (Matt.22:28; Mark 12:23; Luke 20:33).
The answer of our Lord deals with this one issue, which was 'Resurrection'. He says:-
Matt. 22:- '... as touching the Resurrection of the dead' (v.31)
Mark 12:- '... as touching the dead that they Rise' (v.26)
Luke 20:- '... now that the dead are Raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he called the Lord, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, for He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for all live unto him;' (v.38).
* These words were spoken by the Lord Jesus in order to prove 'that the dead are Raised'. Traditionists use them to prove that the dead are 'living' without being Raised!
* The Sadducees may have denied many other things, but the one and only thing in question here is Resurrection. Christ's argument was:-
1) God's words at the bush prove a life for the dead patriarchs.
2) But there is no life for the dead without a resurrection.
3) Therefore they must be Raised From The Dead; or 'live again' by Him.
* This argument held good, for it silenced the Sadducees. For if they are 'living' now, and not dead, how does that prove a Resurrection?
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.'
( Mat 22:31- see also Mark 12:27 & Luke 20:38 )
Hello again, @Jamie Russell,
I came on to enter regarding the words, 'The God of the Living' (above), but found your thread, and thought I would incorporate what I wanted to say within it, for it concerns the state of the dead.
* In these scriptures it is stated that 'God is not the God of the dead, but of the living'. But Traditionists, believing that the 'dead' are 'the living', make God the 'God of the dead', which He distinctly says He is not. Interpreting the words in this way, they ignore the whole context, which shows that the words refer to the RESURRECTION, and not to the dead at all. Notice how this is emphasized in each Gospel:-
* 'Then come unto Him the Sadducees, which say there is no Resurrection' (Matt. 22:23; Mark 12:18; Luke 20:27).
The one issue raised by the Sadducees was the question, 'Whose wife shall she be in the Resurrection?' (Matt.22:28; Mark 12:23; Luke 20:33).
The answer of our Lord deals with this one issue, which was 'Resurrection'. He says:-
Matt. 22:- '... as touching the Resurrection of the dead' (v.31)
Mark 12:- '... as touching the dead that they Rise' (v.26)
Luke 20:- '... now that the dead are Raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he called the Lord, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, for He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for all live unto him;' (v.38).
* These words were spoken by the Lord Jesus in order to prove 'that the dead are Raised'. Traditionists use them to prove that the dead are 'living' without being Raised!
* The Sadducees may have denied many other things, but the one and only thing in question here is Resurrection. Christ's argument was:-
1) God's words at the bush prove a life for the dead patriarchs.
2) But there is no life for the dead without a resurrection.
3) Therefore they must be Raised From The Dead; or 'live again' by Him.
* This argument held good, for it silenced the Sadducees. For if they are 'living' now, and not dead, how does that prove a Resurrection?
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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I can understand the mix-up, The Golden State has gotten quite tarnished. Not quite dead yet but on life support.
Brandy
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That's the reason for the mass Exodus from California. Not to mention all the businesses that are shutting down because of Big Brother.
Jamie Russell CME
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thanks Chris
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lol
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word
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I agree, good explanation
You beat me with this idea by 5 months.
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