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Ai says Testification refers to the act of giving testimony or evidence, often in a legal context. It involves making a formal declaration about what one knows to be true.

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English​

Etymology​

From Latin testificātiō. Compare Old French testification. See testify.

Pronunciation​

Noun​

testification (plural testifications)

  1. The act of testifying, or giving testimony or evidence. Synonym: testament

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  1. testification

    noun​

    1. The act of testifying, or giving testimony or evidence.
      "a direct testification of our homage to God"
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    Testification definition: the act of testifying or giving testimony.. See examples of TESTIFICATION used in a sentence.
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    Define testification. testification synonyms, testification pronunciation, testification translation, English dictionary definition of testification. v. test·i·fied , test·i·fy·ing , test·i·fies v. intr. 1. To give testimony in a legal case or before a deliberative body: witnesses testifying before a...
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    TESTIFICATION definition: the act of testifying or giving testimony | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples
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    Meaning Testification refers to the formal statement made under oath, especially in a court or legal setting, to provide evidence about something.
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    Testification definition: act of giving evidence or statement in court. Check meanings, examples, usage tips, pronunciation, domains, related words.
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    The meaning of TESTIFY is to make a solemn declaration under oath for the purpose of establishing a fact (as in a court). How to use testify in a sentence.
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  1. testification

    noun​

    1. The act of testifying, or giving testimony or evidence.
Okay so back to my point, The resurrection of Christ in Rom 4:25 gives evidence of the Justification of them Christ was delivered up for bearing their offences. Those Christ died for are born legally Justified from their sins. Christ resurrection gives testimony of it.
 
Okay so back to my point, The resurrection of Christ in Rom 4:25 gives evidence of the Justification of them Christ was delivered up for bearing their offences. Those Christ died for are born legally Justified from their sins. Christ resurrection gives testimony of it.
This does not negate free will as individuals still have the choice to accept or reject the gift of salvation offered through Christ

No one will argue that because of the resurrection the content of Romans 4:25, (which highlights not only Christ's death) but forces anyone with half a mind to see the resurrection's profound significance for those with faith.

Jesus' shed blood, which God demands for the forgiveness is applied to those believers. In OT times they used animal blood for a temporary fix. God loved us enough to send his own son to die a torturous death for us shedding his precious blood so those with "the faith" necessary are offered hope and assurance of eternal life, and allowing us to know, without doubt, if we do not waiver from our faith we will also be raised from the dead.

It emphasizes the importance of living a life aligned with that faith as we exercise our free will to choose between good and evil.

If the Heavenly Father had predestined us to be one of the blessed, and then after He picked us and He gave us the faith to believe....WHY? For what purpose because He would know if he picked us we would accept whatever we were told, taught, read or heard.....

But then felt the need to cap it off with the crucifixion that even his very own Son said...in Luke 22:42 " saying, “Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done.”.... knowing the torture he would be experiencing for hours on end.
 
This does not negate free will as individuals still have the choice to accept or reject the gift of salvation offered through Christ
The ones Justified B4 God by Christ Death for them are born Justified while they are ungodly, by the will of God, their will had nothing to do with it. It was not any offers made, save Christ offering of Himself for their sins.
 
Actually hearing and believing come after the New birth!
Acts2:38Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Repenting and being baptized (which also assumes hearing and believing) happen prior to receiving the Holy Spirit, which is the point of being born again.

I’ll take Peter’s word for it over yours!


Doug
 
Okay so back to my point, The resurrection of Christ in Rom 4:25 gives evidence of the Justification of them Christ was delivered up for bearing their offences. Those Christ died for are born legally Justified from their sins. Christ resurrection gives testimony of it.
Rom 4:23The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone, 24but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

It is for whoever “believe(s) in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead”.

There is nothing here about whether the number of people is predetermined or limited by decree. It is a straight forward statement that God will credit righteousness to whoever believes in him.


Doug
 
Rom 4:23The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone, 24but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

It is for whoever “believe(s) in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead”.

There is nothing here about whether the number of people is predetermined or limited by decree. It is a straight forward statement that God will credit righteousness to whoever believes in him.


Doug
Yep

2 Corinthians 7:10 (NASB 95) — 10 For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death.

Luke 13:3 (NASB 95) — 3 I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

Ezekiel 18:30–32 (NASB 95) — 30 “Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct,” declares the Lord GOD. “Repent and turn away from all your transgressions, so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you. 31 Cast away from you all your transgressions which you have committed and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! For why will you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies,” declares the Lord GOD. “Therefore, repent and live.”
 
Rom 4:23The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone, 24but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

It is for whoever “believe(s) in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead”.

There is nothing here about whether the number of people is predetermined or limited by decree. It is a straight forward statement that God will credit righteousness to whoever believes in him.


Doug
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Acts2:38Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Repenting and being baptized (which also assumes hearing and believing) happen prior to receiving the Holy Spirit, which is the point of being born again.

I’ll take Peter’s word for it over yours!


Doug
Peter is obviously exhorting new regenerate babes. Receiving the holy Spirit there is not regeneration or being born again, that has already occurred.
 
Rom 4:23The words “it was credited to him” were written not for him alone, 24but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

It is for whoever “believe(s) in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead”.

There is nothing here about whether the number of people is predetermined or limited by decree. It is a straight forward statement that God will credit righteousness to whoever believes in him.


Doug
Rom 4:25 clearly shows that the death of Christ Justified them The Justified shall believe as evidence.
 
Rom 4:25 clearly shows that the death of Christ Justified them The Justified shall believe as evidence.
Unbelievers are not justified believers are

Rom 5:1Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Rom 3:28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Gal 2:16nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
Rom 4:5But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
Galatians 3:24 (NASB 95) — 24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.

Phil 3:9and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,
 
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