The Lack of Empathy in Calvinism

[praise_yeshua]

Do you know how a human being understands empathy? It comes from knowing ourselves.

It is why I often challenge Calvinists on the emptiness they showing in claiming to be sinners just like all of humanity or claim Grace for themselves while denying it to others.

If you know yourself and claim to be a sinner like everyone else, the by all means act like it and show empathy toward your sinful companions.

Calvinist can't see themselves in others. After all .. God has chosen them.....

 

[civic]

There cannot be any empathy if one believes in the Calvinists predestination doctrine especially double predestination as taught by Calvin and his followers. If you believe in that God then empathy cannot exist- it would be an oxymoron.

Here is the thing whatever and whoever one believes their god to be they will inevitably act it out in their life in how they treat others. Think of the militant Muslims as an example with all the hate with non muslims, sound familiar ? Look at how Calvin treated his opponents with persecution, hatred that led to killing them of driving them out of the country. It’s the exact opposite of what Jesus who is God taught His disciples/ followers to be.

Most people do not what to come face to face with what their religious beliefs are really teaching. And the Bible says we are to be imitators of God/Christ.

 

[praise_yeshua]

There cannot be any empathy if one believes in the Calvinists predestination doctrine especially double predestination as taught by Calvin and his followers. If you believe in that God then empathy cannot exist- it would be an oxymoron.

Here is the thing whatever and whoever one believes their god to be they will inevitably act it out in their life in how they treat others. Think of the militant Muslims as an example with all the hate with non muslims, sound familiar ? Look at how Calvin treated his opponents with persecution, hatred that led to killing then of driving them out of the country. It’s the exact opposite of what Jesus who is God taught His disciples/ followers to be.

Absolutely. This is all of humanity expressing their "divinity" in what they create themselves.

 

[tvmasterc]

I am not a Calvinist or raised with any religion. But I was extremely damaged by a Calvinist, my stepmother. When my best friend killed himself back in 1984, I was distraught. We were fourteen. I mistakenly asked her if I would get to see him again in Heaven. She said no, that all people who kill themselves go to hell. This still has ramifications today, that culminated in my stroke in 2012. It was on the anniversary of David's death. I finally got psychological help in 2017. I don't know or understand how someone can be so black hearted, but I am reminded of Job's three so called friends. Like Job was commanded by God to offer sacrifices for his friends. I have learned to live in forgiveness of my stepmother. I pray constantly that I will NEVER be religious, but be faithful!

 

[civic]

I am not a Calvinist or raised with any religion. But I was extremely damaged by a Calvinist, my stepmother. When my best friend killed himself back in 1984, I was distraught. We were fourteen. I mistakenly asked her if I would get to see him again in Heaven. She said no, that all people who kill themselves go to hell. This still has ramifications today, that culminated in my stroke in 2012. It was on the anniversary of David's death. I finally got psychological help in 2017. I don't know or understand how someone can be so black hearted, but I am reminded of Job's three so called friends. Like Job was commanded by God to offer sacrifices for his friends. I have learned to live in forgiveness of my stepmother. I pray constantly that I will NEVER be religious, but be faithful!

Yes that is not the God of the Bible and nowhere does it say or imply taking ones own life is unforgivable. And until we have walked in someone else's shoes who are we to judge their actions. We might do the same thing ourselves.

Let a man take heed unless he falls. Pride/ego comes before a fall. To think we are beyond doing that ourselves is nothing but pride and the flesh talking.

I'm sorry for your loss and the hurt that it brought you from your stepmoms false assumptions about him.

 

[Presby02]

There cannot be any empathy if one believes in the Calvinists predestination doctrine especially double predestination as taught by Calvin and his followers. If you believe in that God then empathy cannot exist- it would be an oxymoron.

Here is the thing whatever and whoever one believes their god to be they will inevitably act it out in their life in how they treat others. Think of the militant Muslims as an example with all the hate with non muslims, sound familiar ? Look at how Calvin treated his opponents with persecution, hatred that led to killing them of driving them out of the country. It’s the exact opposite of what Jesus who is God taught His disciples/ followers to be.

Most people do not what to come face to face with what their religious beliefs are really teaching. And the Bible says we are to be imitators of God/Christ.

There can't be empathy among Calvinists? Why not?

 

[civic]

There can't be empathy among Calvinists? Why not?

I explained it in the post maybe reread it

 

[Presby02]

I explained it in the post maybe reread it

I stopped reading after the first sentence. The rest of the post is based upon a false premise.

 

[civic]

I stopped reading after the first sentence. The rest of the post is based upon a false premise.

Nope based upon truth and experience. We have a new member sharing the same thing with his wicked step mom telling him his friend is in hell. She had no empathy since she is not God and didn’t know the persons heart. Her hate on her own heart was worse than the sin she was condemning in the other person.

Like I said no empathy. I use to be like that to when I misunderstood who God really is.

 

[Presby02]

Nope based upon truth and experience. We have a new member sharing the same thing with his wicked step mom telling him his friend is in hell. She had no empathy since she is not God and didn’t know the persons heart. Her hate on her own heart was worse than the sin she was condemning in the other person.

Like I said no empathy. I use to be like that to when I misunderstood who God really is.

Your post is based upon a false premise

In order for your silly assertion to be true you would have to know every single Calvinist. Do I have empathy and how do you know?

Your simply poisoning the well. Something your good at. It certainly is not golf.

 

[civic]

Your post is based upon a false premise

In order for your silly assertion to be true you would have to know every single Calvinist. Do I have empathy and how do you know?

Your simply poisoning the well. Something your good at. It certainly is not golf.

I’ve talked with enough of them and interacted with enough of them to know it’s very common

Actually my golf the past 3 rounds has been great. 80, 82, 83. My handicap is lowering

My goal is to try and break 80 before the end of the year and next year to go from a 14 down to a 10.

 

[Presby02]

I’ve talked with enough of them and interacted with enough of them to know it’s very common

Actually my golf the past 3 rounds has been great. 80, 82, 83. My handicap is lowering

My goal is to try and break 80 before the end of the year and next year to go from a 14 down to a 10.

You can do it. Keep playing as much as you can

 

[civic]

You can do it. Keep playing as much as you can

You have empathy