The existence of God

[praise_yeshua]

Exactly genius. It's good in the eyes of men. It does not please God apart from faith.

Now I am a evil man?

You're a man right?

It is good in your eyes. Contrary to this, All good and perfect gifts come from above. Thusly, anything GOOD... comes from God. ANYTHING.

Even good things in natural man. After all, you're a man right?

Do you preach to yourself or to just others?

 

[Presby02]

You're a man right?

It is good in your eyes. Contrary to this, All good and perfect gifts come from above. Thusly, anything GOOD... comes from God. ANYTHING.

Even good things in natural man. After all, you're a man right?

Do you preach to yourself or to just others?

Are they good in the eyes of God minus faith?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Are they good in the eyes of God minus faith?

Absolutely.

Feel free to make the connection.

It is amazing how "Einsteins" struggle in "their own eyes".

 

[Presby02]

Absolutely.

Feel free to make the connection.

It is amazing how "Einsteins" struggle in "their own eyes".

Yet the Bible says without faith it is impossible to please Him. Could it be, perhaps, God actually looks upon your motivation for doing good works?

If your struggling in your own eyes, work on it and get back to me.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Yet the Bible says without faith it is impossible to please Him. Could it be, perhaps, God actually looks upon your motivation for doing good works?

If your struggling in your own eyes, work on it and get back to me.

The Bible also says that every good and perfect gift comes from above.

I never said anything about a work. Quote me. Now we get to your double standard here....

THE WORK OF GOD, is good. It is always good. It is innately GOOD. Every thing that comes from God is GOOD and innately perfect. Such things "FIT together" to form a whole. They also can be mixed with evil things to form a whole. A little leaven.... leavens the entire loaf.

Faith isn't innate good or evil. It is an action. It is fundamentally a choice to believe something. You can chose good or evil in this life.

You're no different than anyone else yet your evil theology teaches you are innately good in the choice of God. God doesn't choose evil things.

It is a matter of character. You have none.

I'm not struggling at all.

 

[Presby02]

The Bible also says that every good and perfect gift comes from above.

I never said anything about a work. Quote me. Now we get to your double standard here....

THE WORK OF GOD, is good. It is always good. It is innately GOOD. Every thing that comes from God is GOOD and innately perfect. Such things "FIT together" to form a whole. They also can be mixed with evil things to form a whole. A little leaven.... leavens the entire loaf.

Faith isn't innate good or evil. It is an action. It is fundamentally a choice to believe something. You can chose good or evil in this life.

You're no different than anyone else yet your evil theology teaches you are innately good in the choice of God. God doesn't choose evil things.

It is a matter of character. You have none.

I'm not struggling at all.

Yet without faith it is impossible to please Him. Are the good things a atheist does good in the eyes of God yes or no? Time to address the question Dodger.

Faith is neither good nor evil? What is it then?

Must be something good about faith, it saves you. Is that a good thing?

It's a matter of knowing what your talking about. You do not.

You have already shown honesty issues as well, speaking of character.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Yet without faith it is impossible to please Him. Are the good things a atheist does good in the eyes of God yes or no? Time to address the question Dodger.

I don't dodge. I'm a sheep. I RAM things head-on.

Yes. They are good. All good things come from above.

Faith is neither good nor evil? What is it then?

I explained it. You didn't like my explanation. Deal with what I wrote.

Must be something good about faith, it saves you. Is that a good thing?

No. Jesus saves. Faith is not meritorious. If faith saves you, then faith is meritorious. I'm not a Calvinist nor Arminian. You need to stop assuming anything.

It's a matter of knowing what your talking about. You do not.

You have already shown honesty issues as well, speaking of character.

Oh. Like not saying anything about "works" and you claiming I said something about "works"......

Feel my pain when dealing with slippery men like yourself?

So. I'll repeat myself.

Every good and perfect gift comes from above..... It comes from GOD.

Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

 

[Presby02]

I don't dodge. I'm a sheep. I RAM things head-on.

Yes. They are good. All good things come from above.



I explained it. You didn't like my explanation. Deal with what I wrote.



No. Jesus saves. Faith is not meritorious. If faith saves you, then faith is meritorious. I'm not a Calvinist nor Arminian. You need to stop assuming anything.





Oh. Like not saying anything about "works" and you claiming I said something about "works"......

Feel my pain when dealing with slippery men like yourself?

So. I'll repeat myself.

Every good and perfect gift comes from above..... It comes from GOD.

Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

It says every good and perfect gift comes from above. Not good things. Are the good things atheists do a gift from above?

You deal with what I wrote. Without faith IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD. Are the good things atheists do pleasing to God yes or no?

Super. Now prove the gift referred to there are the good works the reprobate perform minus faith. This should be entertaining if nothing else.

 

[praise_yeshua]

It says every good and perfect gift comes from above. Not good things.

So a gift isn't a "thing"? Geesh....

Are the good things atheists do a gift from above?

Absolutely. I've already answered you. All good things have their origins in God. Those good things were from God.

You deal with what I wrote. Without faith IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD. Are the good things atheists do pleasing to God yes or no?

I did answer it. Yes. They please God.

You do realize that you don't have a right to Eternal life.... Right? I know you think you do... but you don't. That right exists externally from you.

Super. Now prove the gift referred to there are the good works the reprobate perform minus faith. This should be entertaining if nothing else.

You're reprobate. Prove you're not.
This should be entertaining if nothing else.

 

[Presby02]

So a gift isn't a "thing"? Geesh....



Absolutely. I've already answered you. All good things have their origins in God. Those good things were from God.



I did answer it. Yes. They please God.

You do realize that you don't have a right to Eternal life.... Right? I know you think you do... but you don't. That right exists externally from you.



You're reprobate. Prove you're not.
This should be entertaining if nothing else.

It says every good and perfect gift comes from above. Nothing about good deeds. Fail

Yet the Bible says just the opposite. Let me quote it again for you, "without faith IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD."

Your last two paragraphs are just stupid.

 

[praise_yeshua]

It says every good and perfect gift comes from above. Nothing about good deeds. Fail

I didn't say anything about good deeds. I said "things". Quote me. Feel my pain with you....

Yet the Bible says just the opposite. Let me quote it again for you, "without faith IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD."

Your last two paragraphs are just stupid.

Fruit without faith is useless being left alone.....

What you're failing to deal properly in your theology is the fact that only good comes from the hand of God. Good fruit pleases God but it isn't enough for Eternal Life.

After all, God tolerates you.... right? Does God tolerate your faithlessness?

You just refuse to allow the same for those just like you.

 

[Presby02]

I didn't say anything about good deeds. I said "things". Quote me. Feel my pain with you....



Fruit without faith is useless being left alone.....

What you're failing to deal properly in your theology is the fact that only good comes from the hand of God. Good fruit pleases God but it isn't enough for Eternal Life.

After all, God tolerates you.... right? Does God tolerate your faithlessness?

You just refuse to allow the same for those just like you.

Great. So are good deeds gifts from God. Every last one. Chapter and verse all knowing one.

One more time. "WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD."

 

[praise_yeshua]

Great. So are good deeds gifts from God. Every last one. Chapter and verse all knowing one.

One more time. "WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD."

Deeds are our own. They can be based upon the good things of God or not.

Like your evil deeds. Where did they come from? They didn't come from God.

 

[Presby02]

Deeds are our own. They can be based upon the good things of God or not.

Like your evil deeds. Where did they come from? They didn't come from God.

So good deeds would be a gift of God or not?

"WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD"

 

[praise_yeshua]

So good deeds would be a gift of God or not?

"WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD"

There wouldn't be anything good or any context of good without God. Such were gifted to humanity. You were either taught them or not.

Deeds are our own.

Like a good Calvinist, you're always so shallow. You don't like it when you're proven wrong.

Where did your evil deeds come from?

 

[Presby02]

There wouldn't be anything good or any context of good without God. Such were gifted to humanity. You were either taught them or not.

Deeds are our own.

Like a good Calvinist, you're always so shallow. You don't like it when you're proven wrong.

Where did your evil deeds come from?

"Without faith it is impossible to please God". When my text is addressed I will answer your questions. Will it be much longer?

Mr. Faith is neither good or evil. LOL Brilliant

 

[praise_yeshua]

"Without faith it is impossible to please God". When my text is addressed I will answer your questions. Will it be much longer?

Mr. Faith is neither good or evil. LOL Brilliant

Many things please God. Many things don't please God. Faith is contextual to Eternal Life. Pay attention.

Why don't you answer where you evil deeds come from? Your father?

 

[Presby02]

Many things please God. Many things don't please God. Faith is contextual to Eternal Life. Pay attention.

Why don't you answer where you evil deeds come from? Your father?

Only thing brought about by faith please God. As the text says.

Did that already. Pay attention. I am the source of my evil deeds.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Only thing brought about by faith please God. As the text says.

I realize you only know a few verses of Scriptures from your fathers in your "faith' but this is contrary to the revelation of God.

When evil men do good things, God is pleased.

Psa 133:1 A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

Again. Faith is relative to Eternal Life. You can't come to God seeking Eternal life without faith. This should be obvious to you... but it isn't. There is no other conclusion to draw from these facts other than you're either a novice or an evil man seeking to lie about God.

Did that already. Pay attention. I am the source of my evil deeds.

You are? You might be NOW...... I doubt it though.

Where did they come from? You father? You were trained to do what you do. You are not your own person. You haven't sought to please God directly, you seek to please yourself and others.

 

[Presby02]

I realize you only know a few verses of Scriptures from your fathers in your "faith' but this is contrary to the revelation of God.

When evil men do good things, God is pleased.

Psa 133:1 A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

Again. Faith is relative to Eternal Life. You can't come to God seeking Eternal life without faith. This should be obvious to you... but it isn't. There is no other conclusion to draw from these facts other than you're either a novice or an evil man seeking to lie about God.



You are? You might be NOW...... I doubt it though.

Where did they come from? You father? You were trained to do what you do. You are not your own person. You haven't sought to please God directly, you seek to please yourself and others.

Revelation of God? Here is one, "without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God." LOL

I answered your question. I will not entertain your stupidity.