The Doctrine of Divine Simplicity

Keiw1 said:
The Father commands Jesus. I would say he is the Fathers slave. Jesus must obey his Father to remain in the Fathers love-John 15:10
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That is not God or how He thinks in what you are describing... as an ugly force situation.

God's son has no need to be forced by a 'must' to 'obey' as he is of the same mind and same nature of His father.

You describe the pagan pantheon (=satanic realm, zeus etc.) who indeed function by force.
 
e v e said:
That is not God or how He thinks in what you are describing... as an ugly force situation.

God's son has no need to be forced by a 'must' to 'obey' as he is of the same mind and same nature of His father.

You describe the pagan pantheon (=satanic realm, zeus etc.) who indeed function by force.
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You best read John 15:10--Jesus says the opposite of your words.
Its not forced, Jesus does it by free will as all true followers do. Because they know Jehovah is correct 100% of the time in his decisions and laws and statutes.
 
TomL said:
If one is interested in the truth, they are
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thats not how God speaks.


Keiw1 said:
You best read John 15:10--Jesus says the opposite of your words.
Its not forced, Jesus does it by free will as all true followers do. Because they know Jehovah is correct 100% of the time in his decisions and laws and statutes.
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the only thing He wants is His souls return to Him to eden paradise in the other reality.
 
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All the sons will be restored to their deity, His nature... of which they were robbed... the original glorified Nature of His sons in paradise...
but after the fall His souls were imprisoned on this corrupt earth which is not His Nature. Not His land for us.

This is why obsessing about gods is not important. What's important is to distinguish the realms... His realm which we lost and is now millions of miles away

or

the satanic realm where we are now and its type of nature. true they are not really gods, but,
we are helpless to escape their prison
until Christ returns and gets us out
of this dungeon.

so, @TomL

the terms used are abstractions and do not help.
 
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He will destroy mystery-babylon,
the tall cedar what made eden in the
other reality to fall
and all the eden trees will be
comforted, for the sons
meeting Christ on the clouds
will with Christ rebuild His paradise,
His garden which had been desolated
and the sons will rule with Christ.
 
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Keiw1 said:
You best read John 15:10--Jesus says the opposite of your words.
It's not forced, Jesus does it by free will as all true followers do. Because they know Jehovah is correct 100% of the time in his decisions and laws and statutes.
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reading this i can see that you don't
understand His144k ...

It is Adam not God you follow
as does most modern christianity
...due to the kjv.
 
TomL said:
As I stated I have over 100 translations

The only two I found were both affiliated with the Watchtower society

I am calling you out on it
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1822 Abner Kneeland a Greek scholar( didnt even believe in Jesus being Gods son=unbias)--compared Greek and English side by side in his NT translation=a god at John 1:1--he compared them like that to prove to the world a god was correct.
New test an improved version-1808= a god at John 1:1
Literal translation of NT-1863-- a god at John 1:1
Concise commentary-R.Young-1885--a god at John 1:1--- there are some for you, you look up the rest.

James Moffatt,, Hugh Schoenfield,, Edgar Goodspeed--translations all had was divine at John 1:1=not correct translating of that Greek word but they knew the Word was not called capitol G God at John 1:1
One translation had was godlike--a god means was godlike.
 
TomL said:
As I stated I have over 100 translations

The only two I found were both affiliated with the Watchtower society

I am calling you out on it
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God commanded you to be like the Bereans and--make sure of all things. Does laziness get one to say no God i will not make sure myself.
 
e v e said:
thats not how God speaks.



the only thing He wants is His souls return to Him to eden paradise in the other reality.
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The new earth=Gods kingdom in full control, everything made back to perfection during Jesus1000 year reign, no more satan influences ever=earth transformed into Eden(paradise)
 
e v e said:
reading this i can see that you don't
understand His144k ...

It is Adam not God you follow
as does most modern christianity
...due to the kjv.
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144,000 bought from the earth( Rev 14:3) to heaven=the little flock( Luke12:32) the only ones to partake of the emblems of the Lords evening meal(Luke 22:29-30)--these are the anointed bride of Christ, these will sit on thrones beside Jesus as kings and priests(Rev 1:6,, Rev 20:6)-they are numbered.
The great crowd(Rev 7:9) no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold.

Bible truth.
 
Keiw1 said:
God commanded you to be like the Bereans and--make sure of all things. Does laziness get one to say no God i will not make sure myself.
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That is absurd. You made the claim of 20 translations support your claim of a god. It therefore is your responsibility to provide them.

You can't do it
 

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