Peterlag
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The Word of God is no more a living creature that my word. And when I speak that does not mean there's two of me.
The butchering of John 1:1 by JW anti-Trinitarian Translators
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Read Rev 19:11-16. The Word of God, who is addressed as "Him" and "He", is very much alive as the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. If your word acts the same then you are smoking some serious weed, man.
11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.
12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.
13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.
15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Imagine that.
Peterlag
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When the Bible speaks of the word of God. It is no different than the word from headquarters or the word from the boss. Words are not living creatures. Jesus Christ is called the word in the flesh because he spoke always God's word. That does not make the word "word" a living creature or somehow make Jesus God. You guys are beyond smoking something if you cannot understand simple third grade writing.Read Rev 19:11-16. The Word of God, who is addressed as "Him" and "He", is very much alive as the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. If your word acts the same then you are smoking some serious weed, man.
11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.
12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.
13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.
15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
False. The Bible calls the Word of God "Him" and "He", denoting a Person, not an "it". It's back to the Heresy Concocting Drawing Board for you.
11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.
12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.
13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.
15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Peterlag
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You do not understand the Scriptures or the power of God.
Jesus isn't God, no matter what you are told by those who twist Gods written word.
You need to spend more time at your Heresy Concocting Drawing Board in order to concoct more support for your heretical beliefs than your lame comment that I can just as easily accuse you of.
Read John 1:1 which says the Word was God. Stop accusing Apostle John of "twisting God's written word".
Peterlag
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Thanks for confirming that you lost the debate when you insulted me by saying "You do not understand the Scriptures or the power of God."
Peterlag
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The Jews would not have considered Jesus a threat, but insane...
if he had walked around saying he was God. All you folks ever put in front of me are bits and pieces of words and half verses that are scattered all over the Bible. Also there's no teaching on why God would come to the earth as a man. Such a concept accomplishes nothing. Romans says a man (Adam) caused sin to enter into the world, and also that a man would have to redeem it from sin. The Bible specifically says that a man must do it. The book of Corinthians makes the same point Romans does when it says “For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead” (1 Corinthians 15:21).If there is a trinity then why not just come out and say it? Why do we have to jump all over the Bible cutting and pasting pieces of words that are scattered all over the Bible? Why not just teach it? I know enough about how the Bible is written in the New Testament and in the Gospels to know if there was a trinity it would have been taught.
The Gospels would have clearly said...
Verily, verily I say unto you that I am Jesus and I'm also God.
The Epistles would have writings like...
Yay, I Paul do testify that Jesus who is God came down from heaven to be a man for us. And we do know and testify that this same Jesus who you crucified is God. And so let us bow our knee to the one and only true God-Man Jesus Christ.
And yet there's nothing like that anywhere. Not in the Old or New Testament. Not even one complete verse like that.
MTMattie
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You should know.
Peterlag
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I'm nowhere as nasty as those I interact with daily. Not even close. I sometimes get a little firm once in a blue moon. They on the other hand throw their digs into me almost every single post.
Don't you know that the Bible is a two edge sword? If you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen.
The Bible verses we give you is not trash. You on the other hand don't stick to the Bible but throw the following at us: "You do not understand the Scriptures or the power of God."
In the Greek language at John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4 proves exactly what the Word is called= god. The true God at both places is called a different word than the Greek word given to both the Word and satan. The difference = God to the true God and god to the Word and satan. If the Word were God, he would have gotten the same Greek word the true God got at both places. Yet trinity translation has god to satan and God to the Word when its the same Greek word. There is no rule that makes that possible in translating from Greek to English. Rather Catholicism put God to the Word to fit false council teachings=100% fact.
If we did what you proposed that we do, we would be classified as Modalists. That shows that you're going from one heresy to another without thinking. Start thinking properly and then we can talk.
We've all given you more than enough material for you to be able to logically think things out properly.
Peterlag
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Well, yes that was a little back in your face after you attacked me personally just about every single post.