Synod on Sydonality

[Matthias]

“What is shaping up as possibly one of the most important gatherings in the long history of the Catholic Church is taking place in Rome Oct. 4-29, 2023. Pope Francis is the first of two back-to-back assemblies of the Synod of Bishops to consider questions that have the potential to change the course of Catholicism. among items on the agenda: the possibility of women serving the church in ordained ministry, how the church can better include LGTBQ Catholics and priestly celibacy. …”

Synod on Synodality | National Catholic Reporter

Pope Francis is hosting the second of two back-to-back assemblies of the Synod of Bishops Oct. 2-27 to consider questions that have the potential to change the course of Catholicism. Among items on the agenda: the possibility of women serving the church in ordained ministry, how the church can...

www.ncronline.org

For a Catholic, the potential to change the course of Catholicism is - or should be - a big deal. What, if any, impact would such changes have on Protestantism?

 

[civic]

I’m not aware of any Catholic members on our forum. If you know any you can invite them.

 

[Matthias]

“Now to the question of why Protestants should care about any of this. The reason is simple: Western civilization depends on a Catholic Church that upholds and defends the unchanging and unchangeable tenets of the faith and the moral order that proceeds from them. Protestants might bristle at that, but most of them, if they’re being honest with themselves, know it’s true.

The Catholic Church is foundational and vital to the survival of Western civilization. The West can weather the disappearance of the Unitarians and the Quakers and the Episcopalians. It can even survive the paganization of mainline Protestantism. But it will not survive without the Catholic Church holding the line in society at large. No other Christian sect will step up to replace a fractured Catholic Church. Without it, the West will lose its coherence entirely and its decline, already well under way, will accelerate. …

We might be entering another such period of disjunction between Catholic practice and doctrine, which will weaken the Catholic Church and hasten the decline of the West. The Synod on Synodality is part of this disjunction; it is the entire purpose of the thing. You might not care about Catholic doctrine, but if you care about Western civilization, you’ll want to pay attention to this synod. It concerns us all.”

All Christians Should Be Worried About Pope Francis’ Synod

The Vatican's 'Synod on Synodality' is a thinly veiled effort to change Catholic practice, if not Catholic doctrine.

thefederalist.com

 

[civic]

More pressing as our President just stated Israel is out most urgent priority in this country and world and the U.S. having their full military and financial support.

All Christians should be concerned and praying. This concerns us all.

Maranatha !

hope this helps !!!

 

[Matthias]

“So what is synodality?

Synodality is the effort to transform Catholicism into a new religion in which truth and error, vice and virtue are treated as things that can be voted on by its members.”

The New Religion of Synodality

By Eric Sammons - The concept of Synodality is threatening to replace Catholicism as the religion of the Catholic Church.

crisismagazine.com

“Threatening to replace Catholicism as the religion of the Catholic Church” -> this Catholic writer is sounding an alarm.

 

[Matthias]

Orthodoxy is dying, but it isn’t dead yet.

A trinitarian recently gave me this piece of advice: let orthodoxy die. Letting Catholicism die is another step - and a BIG one - in that direction.

Like orthodoxy, Western civilization is dying, but it isn’t dead yet.

Should we (also) let Western civilization die? What are the consequences of that if we do?

 

[civic]

God is Sovereign and in control over the nations and religious world leaders. They are but pawns in the Chess Masters hands.

 

[mikepec]

“What is shaping up as possibly one of the most important gatherings in the long history of the Catholic Church is taking place in Rome Oct. 4-29, 2023. Pope Francis is the first of two back-to-back assemblies of the Synod of Bishops to consider questions that have the potential to change the course of Catholicism. among items on the agenda: the possibility of women serving the church in ordained ministry, how the church can better include LGTBQ Catholics and priestly celibacy. …”

Synod on Synodality | National Catholic Reporter

Pope Francis is hosting the second of two back-to-back assemblies of the Synod of Bishops Oct. 2-27 to consider questions that have the potential to change the course of Catholicism. Among items on the agenda: the possibility of women serving the church in ordained ministry, how the church can...

www.ncronline.org

For a Catholic, the potential to change the course of Catholicism is - or should be - a big deal. What, if any, impact would such changes have on Protestantism?

It is way overhyped.

Synods are generally regional affairs and have no doctrinal powers unlike councils.
They are talking shops with no authority.

They are there to decide how to put the faith into practice, not to change the nature of it.
They ask questions like "how better to evangelise or administrate". How to cope with falling numbers of vocations

We ALL face a future in which parts of the bible may even be declared as hate speech.
Where praying outside abortion clinics has become a crime in the UK.
So there are modern challenges, the church needs to cope with the times.

Syndodality is about getting lay people more involved in those decisions rather than imposed from high up.
The agenda would put you to sleep!

Different peoples have different cultures. So culturally the "right way to do things" in one country is not necessarily the same in another.

“Instrumentum laboris” of the 16th Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops

press.vatican.va

Deacons are not priests. Pope francis signed up to "ordinatio sacerdotalis" the last word on who can be priests.

But There were female deacons in the early church. Trajan tortured some of them! See the letters from pliny to Trajan.
LGBT are Gods creatures and have some place in the church. The nature of that place needs discussion, obviously.
Unlike most denominations Catholicism has remained steadfast on moral teaching against for example remarriage, abortion or contraception.
They will not change.


Thats not to say members of the church do not do crazy even evil things. Even high up priests , cardinals or popes.
The catholic church has more sinners than most, only because it has more people than most!

But sadly that is the human condition. It is why Christ came.