Saviour, Saved and Salvation

Calvinism understands limited atonement to mean Christ’s death did not in any eternally meaningful way pay for the sins of the non-elect. Thus, there is not even the remotest possibility of even one of the non-elect experiencing salvation in spite of such opportunity being so lucidly and compellingly commanded and presented in the simple call of the gospel for everyone to repent and believe. Correspondingly, this point, along with the aforementioned points, gives rise to the need for and creation of the extra-biblical good faith offer.

Ronnie W. Rogers and Adam Harwood, Does God Love All or Some? Comparing Biblical Extensivism and Calvinism’s Exclusivism
 
Correct. but as in the Church at Corinth, there was Divisions. and the bible states, Amos 3:3 "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" so that nonsense of, "Agree to disagree", is killing the congregations, not the church, but local congregations. we must do like the apostle did at Corinth, there was Divisions.... Preach the TRUTH without compromise. because compromise is a cancer to the body of Christ. and the anti-body is the TRUTH. this nonsense to agree just to get along. is just that nonsense. one need to be awakened to the truth. for the LOVE of the Gospel/TRUTH has no defense against it.

if more people would follow God WORD, instead of what a man said about God Word, many of division would be eliminated. I truly believe this. Ignorance is no excuse, especially when truth is available. as Amos 3:3 "except they be agreed?" well 1 Thessalonians 5:21 states, "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." THIS IS WHAT THE BODY OF CHRIST SHOULD .... "agree" ON. PROVE ONESELF, 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:16 "But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."

101G
Soon the global religoin will have entirely replaced
the one true gospel of JESUS CHRIST
as well as all other false one ways in any other religion .
AS CHRISTENDOM and the united religoins will all beleive in this so called gospel .
BELIEVE YE IN LOVE . mark my words . more and more are alreadying buying into
this idea that it really dont matter what religoin one was
what mattered is did they love. ITS ALL A DELUSION and A STRONG ONE .
many have always pondered JUST HOW ON EARTH
are we ever gonna have a one world religoin . OH ITS HERE .
HAVE THEM TO BELEIVE IN LOVE and to actually chant as one GOD IS LOVE
GOD IS LOVE . its already happening .
That is why we hear all day long about love love love
and yet if anyone would wake up and bother to examine this version of love
THEY WOULD SEE ITS NOT COMING OF GOD at all . it of satan
and is pumped by very greedy men whose desire is an utopia .
The churches have been greatly DECIEVED and sadly it seems more and more seem to love
to have this so . You are right my friend the churches SHOULD NEVER have compromised . THEY all been decieved
Doctrine no longer really matters to them , just the lovey do stuff .
 
@L.A.M.B. also. this is correct, and you two are on point of the Lord Jesus teaching. for by taking off one's shoes, then on can be firmly ROOTED and GROUNDED in, in, in, in, the Word of God. scripture, Matthew 13:8 "But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold." by falling ...."INTO" ... Good/Holy ground one can be planted by the river of LIVING WATER so one can GROW. this is the whole purpose of the Sower, prepare the ground for reception of his word/seed. and God ground is a ready mix, (holy), cultivated, (broken up soil) for entry of the seed/Word. weeds and stones removed, and his ground is well watered. meaning when one take their shoes off, a WELL of LIVING WATER will spring up in the believer, and they will never thirst no more.

101G.
The problem is that for years under the guise of lets find common ground and get along
DOCTRINE got removed and now all they wanna holler and believe in is this other sensual view of love .
The wicked one did his work for years . We really do NEED to be well GROUNDED in the scriptures . DOCTRINE does matter .
TRUTH does matter . this other love is the problem as it overlooks even sins and errors and just tries to find common ground
and now its doing it with other religoins too . THEY all gonna unite under what they all believe is LOVE and of GOD .
ONLY IT AINT OF GOD and it AINT HIS LOVE .
 
HURRAY - you are the first person beside myself that exposes the "nonsense" of "agree to disagree".

i believe that was spawned by liberals - my Jewish liberal mother-in-law would say that all the time.

"rightly dividing the word of truth" requires a dead man with a LIVING SPIRIT - dwell on that
That agree to disagree was a SHAM all along . It was spawned by satan who uses many men
Just look at what it has now led too , SOON enough christendom is even gonna agree to disagree and just find common ground
WITH EVEN FALSE RELIGOINS . ITS all a sham david . Rick warren was a goat who was key player
in seeker friendly and changing the way we evangelize . THEY REMOVED the preaching of JESUS . I KNEW that was
where this would lead too , even as a wee babe way back in two thousand and six
just a few months after coming to the LORD when i had went into a christain bookstore
and read a bit on His junk . Then later around two thousand and eight i seen a coexist pamplet
and instantly i heard in the Spirit that this is what will lead them right to ANTI CHRIST . well LOOK at it now .
Its GROWN MASSIVE .
 
@Aeliana

Calvinism understands limited atonement to mean Christ’s death did not in any eternally meaningful way pay for the sins of the non-elect.

Thats the truth, it didnt. The non elect were chosen for damnation and wrath, only the elect who were not appointed to wrath did Christ die for 1 Thess 5:9-10

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

The us are the elect, we know that from Chapter 1 Thess 1:4-5

4 ;Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
 
For the grace of God has appeared THAT OFFERS SALVATION TO.....A.L.L. PEOPLE. Titus 2:11

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, THAT EVERYONE ....WHO BELIEVES IN HIM shall not perish BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

Hello .
I pray you've all been well and are still trusting in our Lord to carry us until the end of this life into the promised eternal life .

Christianity is a big umbrella under which MANY RELIGIONS sit ! Most man made doctrines are the best at garnering mega crowds bc they allow the sin to remain in ppl's hearts guiding their path into darkness instead of correcting it by the truth of the light in the written word. ( Don't want to offend by calling out my sin)

There is only one way to redemption and it's thru Jesus.By him we are forgiven ,cleansed and set apart for God's service. It is offered to A.L.L. who will believe & repent, turning from sin's darkness to God's light.

All, not some but all humankind can be saved!
 
Do we believe in the True God and True Christ made known in the scripture ? The Apostle Paul admonishes professing believers 2 Cor 13:5

5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

There's only one True "the faith" Jude 1:3

Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

True faith arises from a proper knowledge of God, as he is revealed in Christ, in his holy and sovereign character John 17:3. True faith arises from a proper knowledge of Christ, the incarnate God, in the glory of his, efficacious sin-atoning sacrifice as our Substitute.

Are we sure we believe in the Christ who provided a saving efficacious sin atoning death ? Many have been duped into believing about a false christ who merely, by his death, made salvation possible.
 
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