Re. God's Purposes Regarding The Gentiles unto whom Paul was sent

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jeremiah1five said:
My call does not require me to "preach Jesus."
I don't push Jesus on people who don't want to know about Him.
I await the season to share my faith and what I know of this "so-great salvation" but ONLY when the season presents itself.
Not even Jesus preaches Himself to people. He doesn't have to. We are not all "apostles" and we all do not have the same call to "preach Jesus" to people. I think you have misunderstood what Jesus instructed His disciples to do in Matthew 10 and in Acts 1. Yes, that's exactly what you've done.
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the gospel is JESUS. just as the apostle Paul said via the Lord Jesus, Galatians 3:1 "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" Galatians 3:2 "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?" Galatians 3:3 "Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?"

Galatians 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" Galatians 1:7 "Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ." Galatians 1:8 "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:9 "As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:10 "For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ." Galatians 1:11 "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man." Galatians 1:12 "For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."

101G.
 
Jews now are Gentiles, their National Covenant Distinction is over, they are saved now as gentiles, some of them are included in the Promise of Abraham Gen 12:1-3

Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

They're just one of the families of the earth that shall be blessed,

All Israel shall be saved by the call of the Gentiles Rom 11:25-27

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

When the fulness of the Gentiles come in, the Mystery of God is complete, and all Israel will be saved as Promised Isa 45:17

17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
 
101G said:
the gospel is JESUS. just as the apostle Paul said via the Lord Jesus, Galatians 3:1 "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" Galatians 3:2 "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?" Galatians 3:3 "Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?"

Galatians 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" Galatians 1:7 "Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ." Galatians 1:8 "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:9 "As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:10 "For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ." Galatians 1:11 "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man." Galatians 1:12 "For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."

101G.
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That is Saul's ministry for his time and according to God's will and purpose as He looks at the whole picture.

You probably don't understand what "another gospel" he was referring to.
 
jeremiah1five said:
That is Saul's ministry for his time and according to God's will and purpose as He looks at the whole picture.

You probably don't understand what "another gospel" he was referring to.
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yes, the other gospel that was spreaded by the first JEWS that went out from the persecution of my brother Stephen. but they had a council meeting and got it right.

101G
 
101G said:
yes, the other gospel that was spreaded by the first JEWS that went out from the persecution of my brother Stephen. but they had a council meeting and got it right.

101G
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Be more specific. What are you talking about? Make sense.
Just tell me what the "another gospel" was Saul referring to when he said that in Galatians 1?
 
jeremiah1five said:
My call does not require me to "preach Jesus."
I don't push Jesus on people who don't want to know about Him.
I await the season to share my faith and what I know of this "so-great salvation" but ONLY when the season presents itself.
Not even Jesus preaches Himself to people. He doesn't have to. We are not all "apostles" and we all do not have the same call to "preach Jesus" to people. I think you have misunderstood what Jesus instructed His disciples to do in Matthew 10 and in Acts 1. Yes, that's exactly what you've done.
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Obviously you don't care about Jesus at all.

Jesus did preach Himself. What nonsense are you trying to falsely peddle as being true?

Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
 
praise_yeshua said:
Obviously you don't care about Jesus at all.

Jesus did preach Himself. What nonsense are you trying to falsely peddle as being true?

Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
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That's such a false statement.
 
jeremiah1five said:
Be more specific. What are you talking about? Make sense.
Just tell me what the "another gospel" was Saul referring to when he said that in Galatians 1?
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as clear as 101G can get since you didn't understand 101G'd previous answer.
first school is open. the Greeks have two terms for out one ENGLISH word "ANOTHER". they are 1. G243 Allos and G2087 heteros. in Galatians 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" here "another" here is G2087 heteros meaning a DIFFERENT Gospel than what the Jesus taught, and his sent apostle Paul was preaching. and the very next verse proves it. Galatians 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" here this term "another" is G243 Allos. which is the same Gospel that the Lord Jesus preached, and the apostle sent Paul. and they were removed from that TRUTH/Gospel. see the difference?

what those first JEWS who left Jerusalem, (upon the persecution of brother Stephen), was preaching was not what the Lord Jesus, nor what Paul or any of the other apostles was preaching. they had no clue, (as with you), that all men had that PROMISE of Abraham. and did not need to be circumcise, nor follow the MOSASIC LAW. and that all men have a right to SALVATION in Christ Jesus. do you understand now.

the gospel they preached was JEWISH based, and not JESUS BASED. yes, another gospel.

so, learn the difference in the term "ANOTHER". if you say you're an apostle, then act like one. ....... KNOW GOD'S WILL.

101G.
 
101G said:
as clear as 101G can get since you didn't understand 101G'd previous answer.
first school is open. the Greeks have two terms for out one ENGLISH word "ANOTHER". they are 1. G243 Allos and G2087 heteros. in Galatians 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" here "another" here is G2087 heteros meaning a DIFFERENT Gospel than what the Jesus taught, and his sent apostle Paul was preaching. and the very next verse proves it. Galatians 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" here this term "another" is G243 Allos. which is the same Gospel that the Lord Jesus preached, and the apostle sent Paul. and they were removed from that TRUTH/Gospel. see the difference?

what those first JEWS who left Jerusalem, (upon the persecution of brother Stephen), was preaching was not what the Lord Jesus, nor what Paul or any of the other apostles was preaching. they had no clue, (as with you), that all men had that PROMISE of Abraham. and did not need to be circumcise, nor follow the MOSASIC LAW. and that all men have a right to SALVATION in Christ Jesus. do you understand now.

the gospel they preached was JEWISH based, and not JESUS BASED. yes, another gospel.

so, learn the difference in the term "ANOTHER". if you say you're an apostle, then act like one. ....... KNOW GOD'S WILL.

101G.
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Jewish-based IS Jesus/God-based. Do you think the children of Israel were living by and practicing a religion NOT given to them of God???

But you didn't answer what the "another gospel" Saul was referring to.
 
praise_yeshua said:
My profane attitude?

You're diminishing the work of Jesus Christ. Your idolatry is evident for all to see.
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You said the Holy Spirit who saved me was evil. That is profanity against the Holy Spirit committed by you. And you continue to write such things when you don't know anything about me or my testimony and history. You're a fool.
 
jeremiah1five said:
Jewish-based IS Jesus/God-based. Do you think the children of Israel were living by and practicing a religion NOT given to them of God???

But you didn't answer what the "another gospel" Saul was referring to.
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GINOLJC, to all.
First God never gave anyone a religion. if so, book chapter, and verse please.

two, God told us all to be "holy" as he is Holy.

three the Lord Jesus is not Jewish. nor Christian. if not, book chapter, and verse please.

four, "But you didn't answer what the "another gospel" Saul was referring to" you can't read then.

101G.
 
jeremiah1five said:
You said the Holy Spirit who saved me was evil. That is profanity against the Holy Spirit committed by you. And you continue to write such things when you don't know anything about me or my testimony and history. You're a fool.
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Here is the link to what I said.


You live in an imaginary world where you're important and no one else is.......... You prove it with every comment you make. You're not special at all. Neither am I. You're judging all men by yourself.

I judge everything by Jesus Christ.

I promote Him and Him alone. You are a disagree to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You obviously don't believe what Jesus said. He warned against calling a follower of Him.... a fool.

How many more times are you going to deny Jesus Christ?
 
praise_yeshua said:
Here is the link to what I said.


You live in an imaginary world where you're important and no one else is.......... You prove it with every comment you make. You're not special at all. Neither am I. You're judging all men by yourself.

I judge everything by Jesus Christ.

I promote Him and Him alone. You are a disagree to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You obviously don't believe what Jesus said. He warned against calling a follower of Him.... a fool.

How many more times are you going to deny Jesus Christ?
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No, I'm important.
And you judge with the flesh. Your interpretation of Scripture is Gentile-biased and breaks Scripture, the very thing Jesus said CANNOT BE BROKEN.
Adding Gentiles to any of the three Hebrew Covenants falls short of truth and is your error.
God said specifically that His Promises to Abraham are also to his seed and Gentiles do not come from Abraham's seed.
 
Reading through this thread that I began, I see that it has degenerated into personal insult, and of a kind that I feel cannot be allowed to continue, I must ask the admin to lock it.
 
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