Omniscience????

[praise_yeshua]

Does God exhaustively know every single "bit" of information past present and future of all existence?

The Scriptural answer.... is NO.....

You know how I know this? I know because I've studied the Scriptures.

Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

God does have a memory issue. I wouldn't call it a problem but it really isn't a problem. Man might say it is but its not. It is a ridiculous argument.

God is powerful enough to actually do what He said He will do. FORGET.

So if you remove this silly notion from your theology, then what would your theology become? It certainly wouldn't be Arminian nor Calvinist.

 

[Biblelesson]

Divine omniscience is ability to know everything that a being with God’s attributes can know. Since his attributes are all perfections, they do not likely preclude his knowing something he should know as the maximally-great being.

God even knows how many hairs there are on your head. Luke 12:7

He Is aware of every tear you cry. How beautiful does this make our God? That He is telling us He is aware of every tear we cry?

You have kept count of my tossings
put my tears in your bottle.
Are they not in your book?
Psalm 56:8

 

[praise_yeshua]

Divine omniscience is ability to know everything that a being with God’s attributes can know. Since his attributes are all perfections, they do not likely preclude his knowing something he should know as the maximally-great being.

If you define omniscience as "everything that can be known". Then we are close. However, the "devil" is in the details when it comes to the entirety of that knowledge. If that knowledge is progressive in any manner (which it is) then this is a deviation from the working model.

God even knows how many hairs there are on your head. Luke 12:7

He Is aware of every tear you cry. How beautiful does this make our God? That He is telling us He is aware of every tear we cry?

You have kept count of my tossings
put my tears in your bottle.
Are they not in your book?
Psalm 56:8

The number of hairs on my head has changed significantly in my life time. Much less now than when I was younger. Sometimes I get a "whim" and shave my head completely. This variance is definitely relative the discussion. I don't believe God knows about "all my whims" before they happen.

 

[Logikos]

If you define omniscience as "everything that can be known". Then we are close. However, the "devil" is in the details when it comes to the entirety of that knowledge. If that knowledge is progressive in any manner (which it is) then this is a deviation from the working model.

The number of hairs on my head has changed significantly in my life time. Much less now than when I was younger. Sometimes I get a "whim" and shave my head completely. This variance is definitely relative the discussion. I don't believe God knows about "all my whims" before they happen.

I agree with your post. I don't know for sure if God knows all about my whims. But if Jesus lives inside of me and I have the holy spirit then to me it seems like he would.

In Romans 8 Paul explains that “you have the Spirit of God living in you.” (verse 9). Verse 10 adds, “and Christ lives within you…” Jesus Christ can live in a person through the power of the Holy Spirit.

So it's possible.

 

[Waylon]

I agree with your post. I don't know for sure if God knows all about my whims. But if Jesus lives inside of me and I have the holy spirit then to me it seems like he would.

In Romans 8 Paul explains that “you have the Spirit of God living in you.” (verse 9). Verse 10 adds, “and Christ lives within you…” Jesus Christ can live in a person through the power of the Holy Spirit.

So it's possible.

Here's a thought for you/

He is omniscient and aware of every little detail including our thoughts. Let's discuss this in detail, as it should be interesting.

In Psalm 139:1-2, David tells us: “O LORD, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar.”

 

[praise_yeshua]

I agree with your post. I don't know for sure if God knows all about my whims. But if Jesus lives inside of me and I have the holy spirit then to me it seems like he would.

In Romans 8 Paul explains that “you have the Spirit of God living in you.” (verse 9). Verse 10 adds, “and Christ lives within you…” Jesus Christ can live in a person through the power of the Holy Spirit.

So it's possible.

I can accept "as they happen" or even "predictability/probability". God is really smart...

 

[praise_yeshua]

Here's a thought for you/

He is omniscient and aware of every little detail including our thoughts. Let's discuss this in detail, as it should be interesting.

In Psalm 139:1-2, David tells us: “O LORD, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar.”

God certainly knows us better than we know us. In fact, we can't really know ourselves without the assistance of God.

 

[Logikos]

Here's a thought for you/

He is omniscient and aware of every little detail including our thoughts. Let's discuss this in detail, as it should be interesting.

In Psalm 139:1-2, David tells us: “O LORD, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar.”

Yes that's a good one. But it doesn't say all my thoughts or my whims. But since he is our creator he probably knows us pretty well even what we're thinking.

 

[Waylon]

God certainly knows us better than we know us. In fact, we can't really know ourselves without the assistance of God.

Now that's a fact. This is starting to tie together. That is so good... As in the more we know God and the more we know about him the more we want to imitate him.

Ephesians 5:1 “Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children.” This means that we should strive to copy God’s character and actions,

 

[praise_yeshua]

Yes that's a good one. But it doesn't say all my thoughts or my whims. But since he is our creator he probably knows us pretty well even what we're thinking.

We have to also admit. Most of the time, we're not that complicated....

 

[Logikos]

We have to also admit. Most of the time, we're not that complicated....

Correct, I've been reading about selfishness and self-centeredness so yeah we're not really that complicated. There is a theory that sin is based on selfishness. Especially when it conceives of selfishness as the putting of self in the place of God.

I'm not saying that selfishness is the root cause of all sin. There is a great deal of sin in which selfishness is not at all the governing principle.

 

[Aeliana]

A man’s mind plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps and makes them sure.
PROVERBS 16:9

 

[praise_yeshua]

A man’s mind plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps and makes them sure.
PROVERBS 16:9

The "chapter" you're referencing is very different in the oldest Greek sources. It is why you don't see this verse quoted in the NT. The extent witnesses in the collections of "Proverbs" throughout history is dramatically different. An enemy of God sowed the words you're referencing in their translation.

Proverb's 16:9 doesn't exist at all in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts.

Men tend to "add" to what God said.

 

[Aeliana]

The "chapter" you're referencing is very different in the oldest Greek sources. It is why you don't see this verse quoted in the NT. The extent witnesses in the collections of "Proverbs" throughout history is dramatically different. An enemy of God sowed the words you're referencing in their translation.

Proverb's 16:9 doesn't exist at all in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts.

Men tend to "add" to what God said.

Okay thanks for the information I'll definitely look into it.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Correct, I've been reading about selfishness and self-centeredness so yeah we're not really that complicated. There is a theory that sin is based on selfishness. Especially when it conceives of selfishness as the putting of self in the place of God.

I'm not saying that selfishness is the root cause of all sin. There is a great deal of sin in which selfishness is not at all the governing principle.

Amen! Men often give their lives for those they love. Man can commit sin for others they love. Love among humanity is a fickle thing.

 

[Aeliana]

This is all I could find. I'm not saying I agree with it but it is interesting.

The Bible teaches that a man’s mind plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps and makes them sure. This concept is rooted in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts, specifically in Proverbs 16:9, which states, “A man’s heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps” (NKJV).

This verse highlights the tension between human agency and divine sovereignty. On one hand, humans have the capacity to plan and make decisions, shaping their own paths and destinies. On the other hand, God is the one who ultimately directs and guides our steps, ensuring that our plans align with His will.

This interplay between human plans and divine direction is a recurring theme throughout the Bible. In Proverbs 19:21, it is written, “Many plans are in a man’s heart, but the counsel of the Lord will stand” (NASB1995). This verse emphasizes that while humans may have many plans and ideas, it is God’s counsel that ultimately prevails.

The book of Job also illustrates this concept. Job, a righteous man, had plans and expectations for his life, but God allowed him to experience suffering and hardship. Through his trials, Job came to understand that his plans were not his own, but rather were subject to God’s sovereignty. As Job acknowledged, “I know that you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted” (Job 42:2, NIV).

In conclusion, the Bible teaches that while humans plan and make decisions, it is God who ultimately directs and guides our steps, making them sure. This understanding can bring comfort and peace to those who trust in God’s sovereignty, knowing that their plans are not their own, but are subject to His wise and loving guidance.
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[Cyrus]

The understanding of God directing our steps has a profound impact on our daily decisions and choices. It encourages us to seek His guidance and wisdom in all aspects of life. When we acknowledge that God is directing our steps, we are reminded that our plans and decisions are not our own, but are subject to His sovereignty.

 

[praise_yeshua]

This verse highlights the tension between human agency and divine sovereignty. On one hand, humans have the capacity to plan and make decisions, shaping their own paths and destinies. On the other hand, God is the one who ultimately directs and guides our steps, ensuring that our plans align with His will.

Double talk. Notice....."Shaping their own paths".... "Assuring that our plan align with His will". .

This interplay between human plans and divine direction is a recurring theme throughout the Bible. In Proverbs 19:21, it is written, “Many plans are in a man’s heart, but the counsel of the Lord will stand” (NASB1995). This verse emphasizes that while humans may have many plans and ideas, it is God’s counsel that ultimately prevails.

Pro 19:21 There are many thoughts in a man's heart; but the counsel of the Lord abides for ever.

Nothing more than a statement of contrasts. God's counsel abides forever contrasted against the temporal will of temporal things.

The book of Job also illustrates this concept. Job, a righteous man, had plans and expectations for his life, but God allowed him to experience suffering and hardship. Through his trials, Job came to understand that his plans were not his own, but rather were subject to God’s sovereignty. As Job acknowledged, “I know that you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted” (Job 42:2, NIV).

Another false translation.

Job 42:2 I know that thou canst do all things, and nothing is impossible with thee.

Luke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible. This verse is quoted in the NT. We know it is perfect in the NT.

In conclusion, the Bible teaches that while humans plan and make decisions, it is God who ultimately directs and guides our steps, making them sure. This understanding can bring comfort and peace to those who trust in God’s sovereignty, knowing that their plans are not their own, but are subject to His wise and loving guidance.
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Given the facts found in the extant Scriptures. We can know that the commentary above is false.

 

[praise_yeshua]

The understanding of God directing our steps has a profound impact on our daily decisions and choices. It encourages us to seek His guidance and wisdom in all aspects of life. When we acknowledge that God is directing our steps, we are reminded that our plans and decisions are not our own, but are subject to His sovereignty.

Do we fail? We all do.

To claim that our failures are determined based upon "sovereignty" is a false gospel. (not saying you're saying this. However, many do make this exact claim).

 

[Cyrus]

Do we fail? We all do.

To claim that our failures are determined based upon "sovereignty" is a false gospel. (not saying you're saying this. However, many do make this exact claim).

Yeah I think you're right. Kind of have to take that with a grain of salt. I mean after all we do have free will. We can pray and ask for god's guidance and direction or we can do it our way. My way usually leads to cuts and scrapes bruises and broken bones.