brightfame52
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No I haven't
No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !
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brightfame52
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There's no scripture that specifically says Christ died for the elect and it is not a scripture that says specifically He died for all humanity without expectation.
brightfame52
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Christ met all the conditions God required to save His Elect. If you don't believe that, you don't understand what Christ accomplished, and you should take that up with God
Yes, you have.
Prohibited by scripture
Regeneration is the impartation of spiritual life
But those who do not believe will not see life
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.
Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.
John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”
1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.
So scripture refutes Calvinism’s belief that unbelievers may be given life so that they may believe
No Sola fide does not take man out of the picture.
And protestant non Calvinists hold to free will not geared toward Calvinist determinism and will affirm faith is their input.
brightfame52
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False belief in Christ is given by grace Phil 1:29
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
That word given is the Greek word charizomai from where we get the word grace:
to give graciously, give freely, bestow
So it's not a condition but a graciously bestowed gift
brightfame52
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No I haven't
synergy
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The claim that Christ met all conditions, by supplying the very act of believing in their place, replaces the repeated biblical demand for personal trust in Christ with fairy tale fiction nowhere found in Scripture, rendering your assertion both false and absurd according to the Bible, especially Rom 10:8-13.
synergy
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Protestants practice a mild form of Sola Fide. Calvinists practice an extreme form of Sola Fide which makes it monergistic, no longer synergistic.
Um, Calvinists are Protestants.
Calvinists hold to determination
Protestant Non Calvinist hold to sola Fide via free will
Yes, you have.
Prohibited by scripture
Regeneration is the impartation of spiritual life
But those who do not believe will not see life
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.
Mark 16:16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.
John 8:24 Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.”
1 John 5:10–13 (The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. The one who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has testified concerning his Son.) And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.
So scripture refutes Calvinism’s belief that unbelievers may be given life so that they may believe
God offers salvation through the gospel and when man receives it by faith, God justifies the sinner (Rom. 5:1). Trying to make this a determinative interchange between God and the sinner makes a mockery of God’s offer and distorts His word.
brightfame52
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You way off
synergy
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Your total inability ro offer any substantive rebuttal means that calvinism has been checkmated again.
synergy
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They are an extreme form of Protestantism, a reformed version.
Free will allows non-Calvinists to be synergistic. Full blown Sola Fide eliminates all free will actions/works, and even eliminates free will itself, which makes it monergistic.
Doug Brents
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So you are admitting that your doctrine is not based on Scripture, because there is no Scripture that says what you believe.
But there is Scripture that says He died for all humanity without exception: 1 John 2:2, John 3:16, 2 Corinthians 5:15, 1 Peter 3:18, 1 Timothy 2:6, and Romans 5:18. All of these passages state that He died for all. Any limitation placed on this comes from your own mind, to make it fit with your already established doctrine. Scripture places NO limitation on "ALL" in these verses.
That right there is why Calvinism is so hideous.
Who says full blown sola fide eliminates all free will.
Produce a verse that states such.
brightfame52
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You still way off
brightfame52
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Show a scripture that specifically says Christ died for All mankind, everyone ever born
