uhh. You are questioning the teachings of Jesus. That hardly makes those views correct. The point of discussion is what has been shown in scriptures. You bypass the discussion by pretending they fit Jesus' words. You view of the translation being by whatever spirit is your source then means that the 60 years since the original translation team must have made your scriptures worse -- if we go by your view of translation history.
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civic
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God only directed the original writings of the NT written in Greek. No other writings from that time forward were inspired by God.
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Many believe that the name of God, particularly YHWH, has been altered or removed from various translations of the Bible, especially in the New Testament where it does not appear in the original manuscripts. Some argue that this reflects a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of the divine name's significance in scripture.
WikipediaThe Name of God in Religious Texts
Historical Context
The name of God has been a significant topic in religious discussions. In the Hebrew Bible, God's name is represented by the Tetragrammaton, YHWH. This name is considered sacred and is used extensively in the Old Testament. However, its representation has varied across different translations and interpretations.Claims of Removal
Some groups, including Jehovah's Witnesses, assert that the name YHWH has been removed or altered in various translations of the Bible. They argue that reputable translations, like the King James Version, do not eliminate the divine name from the Old Testament. Instead, they maintain that YHWH is present in all original Hebrew manuscripts.Spelling and Usage
The spelling "Jehovah" is often debated. Critics point out that the letter "J" did not exist in Hebrew or Greek, suggesting that "Yahweh" is a more accurate representation of YHWH. This claim is supported by linguistic studies that highlight the historical development of the English language.Conclusion
The discussion around the name of God involves complex historical, linguistic, and theological elements. While some believe that the name has been removed against God's will, others argue that it has been preserved in various forms throughout religious texts.It is 100% unbelievable that what you claim happened, happened.
If you truly are not just [parroting those who have said things in your religion why have you never one time provided translated evidence of such where you show a translation and then give the history on the people who did the translations such as I always do and have given you your own history that you believe in
You or your religion has no clue as to what Jesus teaches=100% fact of life.
You will find out the opposite-sadly.
Conclusion---God is with the JW religion.Search Assist
Many believe that the name of God, particularly YHWH, has been altered or removed from various translations of the Bible, especially in the New Testament where it does not appear in the original manuscripts. Some argue that this reflects a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of the divine name's significance in scripture.bible.ca
The Name of God in Religious Texts
Historical Context
The name of God has been a significant topic in religious discussions. In the Hebrew Bible, God's name is represented by the Tetragrammaton, YHWH. This name is considered sacred and is used extensively in the Old Testament. However, its representation has varied across different translations and interpretations.
Claims of Removal
Some groups, including Jehovah's Witnesses, assert that the name YHWH has been removed or altered in various translations of the Bible. They argue that reputable translations, like the King James Version, do not eliminate the divine name from the Old Testament. Instead, they maintain that YHWH is present in all original Hebrew manuscripts.
Spelling and Usage
The spelling "Jehovah" is often debated. Critics point out that the letter "J" did not exist in Hebrew or Greek, suggesting that "Yahweh" is a more accurate representation of YHWH. This claim is supported by linguistic studies that highlight the historical development of the English language.
Conclusion
The discussion around the name of God involves complex historical, linguistic, and theological elements. While some believe that the name has been removed against God's will, others argue that it has been preserved in various forms throughout religious texts.
It is 100% unbelievable that what you claim happened, happened.
If you truly are not just [parroting those who have said things in your religion why have you never one time provided translated evidence of such where you show a translation and then give the history on the people who did the translations such as I always do and have given you your own history that you believe in
civic
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Nope what I said is 100% correct
I suppose you can come up with an argument against the Christian beliefs then rather than the JWs' beliefs.
Jesus answers you--Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) Father) righteousness and all this will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)-- Jesus assures-the true followers worship the Father in spirit and truth.( John 4:22-24)-- Why won't you listen to Jesus?
Wow. you paid attention to some verses but have not said how you find me misinterpreting those verses. Maybe you can explain yourself here. The very question in the discussion is whether to disregard Jesus as God or not. You argued, without clear evidence, that some men translated text to form the NWT but have not explained why that could be a spirit-driven translation when first you deny God's Spirit in the world and second why there would be 5 revisions in 60 years if the initial translation was by this spirit. Why are we to believe anything you are saying?
Trinity based religions refuse to listen to Jesus and teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first.
Do you have an argument to support this or you just want to think that some "translators" for the NWT were led by some spirit but then 60 years involved 5 revisions to alter that translation?
I attended different trinity based religions in my day--Not 1 taught to seek-HIS(YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness first--Its all about Jesus to those religions, Where its all about The Father to Jesus and his religion.
FreeInChrist
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WOW,
I hate to break this news to you but without Jesus we all would be headed to hell fire.
Or does you NWT remove hell?
About Jesus.
The Bible teaches that Jesus is the eternal Son of God. That, being born of a virgin, He became a man. That He lived a sinless life, perfectly righteous in the eyes of God. That He offered Himself up to God as a spotless sacrifice. That He was executed on a Roman cross, receiving the full weight of God’s wrath for the sins of His people. After dying and being buried, He rose from the grave and ascended into heaven where He is seated as the exalted King of all creation, awaiting the day when He returns to judge the world.
You are aware that throughout the Old Testament there is constant reference to the Messiah? That is their Savior.
That is who Jesus is, though not all will acknowledge that.
It was because of Jesus petitioning his Father for the other comforter to come to us that we have the Holy Spirit in us.
So you find fault that Jesus is our perfect savior without whom we would be lost.... therefore people center their thoughts on Him?
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I know that these variant groups diminish Jesus, which is quite horrific -- of diminishing the one by whom the calendar starts from year 1. I did not expect this to explicitly stated rejection of Christ by someone supposing they are a Christian.
Without ones heart directing their mind to do this-John 4:22-24) 24/7-365---they are the ones who have lost. How many days of your life does your heart instruct your mind to do just as Jesus taught at John 4:22-24?
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