List of failures among Judaism

[praise_yeshua]

Stephen gave his life for Christ and Christianity. Stephen was murdered because he told the truth to his own people. They have long history of murdering their own and sacrificing their own children to false gods.

https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/4372130/jewish/The-Tragic-History-of-Molech-Child-Sacrifice.htm

Act 7:43 You took up the tent of Moloch and the star of your god Rephan, the images that you made to worship; and I will send you into exile beyond Babylon.’
Act 7:44 “Our fathers had the tent of witness in the wilderness, just as he who spoke to Moses directed him to make it, according to the pattern that he had seen.
Act 7:45 Our fathers in turn brought it in with Joshua when they dispossessed the nations that God drove out before our fathers. So it was until the days of David,
Act 7:46 who found favor in the sight of God and asked to find a dwelling place for the God of Jacob.
Act 7:47 But it was Solomon who built a house for him.
Act 7:48 Yet the Most High does not dwell in houses made by hands, as the prophet says,
Act 7:49 “‘Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Did not my hand make all these things?’
Act 7:51 “You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you.
Act 7:52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered,
Act 7:53 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it.”
The Stoning of Stephen
Act 7:54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him.
Act 7:55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
Act 7:56 And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
Act 7:57 But they cried out with a loud voice and stopped their ears and rushed together at him.
Act 7:58 Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul.

Saul mourn his actions in "wasting" the children of Christ and seeking to ruin them to the point of removing them from the face of the earth.

Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

As they worse than Gentiles? No. Yet they are no better. All men are equally guilty and equal in need of Christ.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

 

[mikesw]

The Israel people lost faith toward God. The effect was to just take on works of the law. They also seemed to have seen God as a harsh taskmaster. Jesus then reveals in John 17:3 that the disciples have come to know the only true God. The other views either were that many gods existed or the Jewish knowledge of God was all wrong. We can also consider that more of them would have been aware of the timeline of Daniel so as to recognize the Messiah if they were a faithful people. There also seems to have been abuse of the poor and of things such as divorce. Part of this problem was that the Israel people were supposed to remain separated from such common practices of other nations.
And then there was a problem of bloodshed by the Israel people. We see that with the taking over of Edom and then with Maccabees and then with the type of persecution Paul undertook.
It is notable that Paul speaks very little of the status of the Israel people in his letters. Of course Matthew addressed much from the interaction with the Pharisees, who were creating the strongholds of bad teachings.

 

[koverbd]

The Israel people lost faith toward God. The effect was to just take on works of the law. They also seemed to have seen God as a harsh taskmaster. Jesus then reveals in John 17:3 that the disciples have come to know the only true God. The other views either were that many gods existed or the Jewish knowledge of God was all wrong. We can also consider that more of them would have been aware of the timeline of Daniel so as to recognize the Messiah if they were a faithful people. There also seems to have been abuse of the poor and of things such as divorce. Part of this problem was that the Israel people were supposed to remain separated from such common practices of other nations.
And then there was a problem of bloodshed by the Israel people. We see that with the taking over of Edom and then with Maccabees and then with the type of persecution Paul undertook.
It is notable that Paul speaks very little of the status of the Israel people in his letters. Of course Matthew addressed much from the interaction with the Pharisees, who were creating the strongholds of bad teachings.

Stephen gave his life for Christ and Christianity. Stephen was murdered because he told the truth to his own people. They have long history of murdering their own and sacrificing their own children to false gods.

https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/4372130/jewish/The-Tragic-History-of-Molech-Child-Sacrifice.htm

Act 7:43 You took up the tent of Moloch and the star of your god Rephan, the images that you made to worship; and I will send you into exile beyond Babylon.’
Act 7:44 “Our fathers had the tent of witness in the wilderness, just as he who spoke to Moses directed him to make it, according to the pattern that he had seen.
Act 7:45 Our fathers in turn brought it in with Joshua when they dispossessed the nations that God drove out before our fathers. So it was until the days of David,
Act 7:46 who found favor in the sight of God and asked to find a dwelling place for the God of Jacob.
Act 7:47 But it was Solomon who built a house for him.
Act 7:48 Yet the Most High does not dwell in houses made by hands, as the prophet says,
Act 7:49 “‘Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Did not my hand make all these things?’
Act 7:51 “You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you.
Act 7:52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered,
Act 7:53 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it.”
The Stoning of Stephen
Act 7:54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him.
Act 7:55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
Act 7:56 And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
Act 7:57 But they cried out with a loud voice and stopped their ears and rushed together at him.
Act 7:58 Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul.

Saul mourn his actions in "wasting" the children of Christ and seeking to ruin them to the point of removing them from the face of the earth.

Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

As they worse than Gentiles? No. Yet they are no better. All men are equally guilty and equal in need of Christ.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Stephen didn't give his life for Christianity. The word Christian wasn't coined a word until about 100 years after the resurrection. Stephen was a Messianic Jew and deacon on the early church. He was a martyr for Messianic Judaism not Christianity.
Shalom

 

[mikesw]

Stephen didn't give his life for Christianity. The word Christian wasn't coined a word until about 100 years after the resurrection. Stephen was a Messianic Jew and deacon on the early church. He was a martyr for Messianic Judaism not Christianity.
Shalom

That's too bad it was such a limited death. The first gentiles with Christ in Rome started in the synagogues if that is of interest to you. I'm not sure why the two groups of Messiah followers should be distinguished by race after Jesus undid that division

 

[koverbd]

Unlike today, the Gentiles were in the minority
In the early church and took their cue from the Messianic church leaders at the time.
When I have time I will post the information on why the Gentiles and the Messianic Jews went separate ways.
Shalom

 

[mikesw]

if there was a separation, it had nothing to do with scripture testimony. It would just be sort of those division of doctrines between the groups. In the letter to the Romans, Paul was pushing for gentiles, who largely began in the synagogues, to again have a benevolent attitude toward Jews after several problems resulted in the Jews unable to participate in Christ along with the gentiles.

 

[koverbd]

No ifs. There was a separation. Obviously you don't know what the separation is and what caused it.
Shalom

 

[mikesw]

No ifs. There was a separation. Obviously you don't know what the separation is and what caused it.
Shalom

maybe so. I just make the sense from what scripture shares. Paul in Galatians 2 speaks of the truth of the gospel with its inclusion of unity between Jews and gentiles.