Kirk Cameron and annihilationism

You have a view of the "New Earth" that is different from my view of it. I do not believe in any physical or corporeal New Earth. I don't hold to gates of actual physical pearls, or actual streets of actual physical gold, walls of jasper, etc., etc.
your view is unbiblical thats why.

I guess the tree of life in tthe gsrden of eden was not real, physical either- so why did God not allow adam/eve to go eat from that tree ?

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You make Gods word a lie, and from the Old Testament Job, David, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Jonah and from the New Testament- Jesus, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John , all the Disciples, the women who followed Jesus including Mary His mother.

And the verse does not say that, you made that up.
What do you think Paul meant when he said, "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"?
 
your view is unbiblical thats why.

I guess the tree of life in tthe gsrden of eden was not real, physical either- so why did God not allow adam/eve to go eat from that tree ?

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Do you really believe there will be streets in heaven paved with gold?
 
What do you think Paul meant when he said, "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"?

JIM, JIM, JIM................. Who said it was to be flesh and blood.

Even Jesus was changed to

Look... get out your bible and tell me if Luke 24:39 reads differently then this

"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."
Why does it say it like this?
In the Bible, Luke 24:39 states that after His resurrection, Jesus invited His disciples to touch Him, saying, "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." This indicates that He was resurrected in a physical form of flesh and bones.
 
JIM, JIM, JIM................. Who said it was to be flesh and blood.

Even Jesus was changed to

Look... get out your bible and tell me if Luke 24:39 reads differently then this

"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."
Why does it say it like this?
In the Bible, Luke 24:39 states that after His resurrection, Jesus invited His disciples to touch Him, saying, "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." This indicates that He was resurrected in a physical form of flesh and bones.
Living or dead? Living flesh has blood circulation. Flesh absent of blood is dead.
 
Living or dead? Living flesh has blood circulation. Flesh absent of blood is dead.
Not if it is glorified because it does not need it...
 
Yes do you really believe God created gold and precious stones ?

Or did they just evolve apart from a Creator ?
Huh? Nothing evolved apart from the creator. But that doesn't mean He created, i.e., created ex nihilo, everything.

And by the way, what makes gold and precious stones precious?
 
Huh? Nothing evolved apart from the creator. But that doesn't mean He created, i.e., created ex nihilo, everything.

And by the way, what makes gold and precious stones precious?
So in the original creation gold is real ,literal gold but in the new creation is figurative, not literal gold.

The same with water its real water in the original creation but figurative in the new creation

The same with the tree of life in the original creation it was a real tree but that same tree in the new creation is figurative.

The same with fruit

The same with God is light its not real light we will be in darkness since God it not really light.
 
I thoroughly believe that the glorified body we will have in the kingdom of God/Heaven will not need flesh, blood or bones.
Whatever.
 
And spiritual used with body does not mean immaterial.

Spiritual does not mean immaterial as those who reject the physical, bodily Resurrection of Christ- that He is still a man in heaven with a literal physical, tangible human body ( SOMA ) from my previous post above.

Philippians 3:20-21

For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 21 who will transform the bodyof our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.
NASB

Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you.
NASB

Believers bodies will be transformed from its current state which is corrupt, sinful mortal to a body like His which Incorruptible, Holy/Sinless and Immortal in the Resurrection as per 1 Cor 15, Romans 8:11, Phil 3:21.

And when we compare the above with Paul in these passages below we see that the body(soma) in the context is a real material body which is physical in the Resurrection but controlled completely by the Spirit in the afterlife.

pneumatikos: spiritual

Original Word: πνευματικός, ή, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: pneumatikos
Phonetic Spelling: (pnyoo-mat-ik-os')
Definition: spiritual
Usage: spiritual.



Thayer’s Greek Lexicon- belonging to the Divine Spirit; Used 26 times in the N.T.

a. in reference to things; emanating from the Divine Spirit, or exhibiting its effects and so its character: χάρισμα, Romans 1:11; εὐλογία, Ephesians 1:3; σοφία καί σύνεσις πνευματικῇ (opposed to σοφία σαρκικῇ, 2 Corinthians 1:12; ψυχική, James 3:15), Colossians 1:9; ᾠδαί, divinely inspired, and so redolent of the Holy Spirit, Colossians 3:16; (Ephesians 5:19Lachmann brackets); ὁ νόμος (opposed to a σάρκινος man), Romans 7:14; θυσίαι, tropically, the acts of a life dedicated to God and approved by him, due to the influence of the Holy Spirit (tacitly opposed to the sacrifices of an external worship), 1 Peter 2:5; equivalent to produced by the sole power of God himself without natural instrumeutality, supernatural, βρῶμα, πόμα, πέτρα, 1 Corinthians 10:3, 4 ((cf. 'Teaching' etc. 10, 3 [ET])); πνευματικά, thoughts, opinions, precepts, maxims, ascribable to the Holy Spirit working in the soul, 1 Corinthians 2:13(on which see συγκρίνω, 1); τά πνευματικά, spirithal gifts — of the endowments called χαρίσματα (see χάρισμα), 1 Corinthians 12:1; 1 Corinthians 14:1; universally, the spiritual or heavenly blessings of the gospel, opposed to τά σαρκικά, Romans 15:27; (1 Corinthians 9:11).

b. in reference to persons; one who is filled with and governed by the Spirit of God: 1 Corinthians 2:15 (cf. ); (); ; Galatians 6:1; οἶκος πνευματικός, of a body of Christians (see οἶκος, 1 b. at the end), 1 Peter 2:5. (The word is not found in the O. T. (cf. Winers Grammar, § 34, 3).


Natural(psychikos) body
Spiritual(pneumatikos) body


1 Corinthians 15:44
it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritualbody.

Below we see how Paul uses and contrasts the words natural (psychikos) and spiritual (pneumatikos) below;


1 Corinthians 2:14-16
14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no man.

Paul is clearly contrasting the unsaved with the saved with the natural man and spiritual man. One is controlled by the natural or the flesh while the other is controlled by the spirit/spiritual- Holy Spirit. Just like in 1 Cor 15:44 where Paul is contrasting the natural body that is controlled by the flesh with the spiritual body that is controlled by the Spirit. Both are real physical bodies but the difference is one is controlled by the flesh which is carnal and the other is controlled by the Spirit and is spiritual. One has the appetites and desires of the flesh while the other has appetites and desires controlled by the Spirit. Hence a spiritual body is one that is controlled by the Spirit of God in the Resurrection.

Paul’s usage below of spiritual(pneumatikos) in 1 Corinthians 10 where he calls the rock, food and drink spiritual it does not mean an immaterial rock, food and drink but a real Rock, Manna and Water which were with the Israelites in the wilderness wanderings.

1 Corinthians 10:1-4
For I do not want you to be unaware, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and all ate the same spiritual food; 4and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ.

Now Paul drives home the point of our new literal physical bodies below in heaven from the text in 2nd Cor 5 below;

2 Corinthians 5:1-5
For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. 2 We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. 3 For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies. 4 While we live in these earthly bodies, we groan and sigh, but it's not that we want to die and get rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want to put on our new bodies so that these dying bodies will be swallowed up by life. 5 God himself has prepared us for this, and as a guarantee he has given us his Holy Spirit.

You see there is no bodiless spirit men in heaven unclothed (no body) but indeed with a heavenly body (like Jesus) has now in heaven which is flesh and bones like He said His Resurrected body was to His Disciples.

Spiritual is used to describe these physical things:

the spiritual man
he who is spiritual
the spiritual rock
the spiritual food
the spiritual drink
the spiritual songs
the spiritual house
the spiritual things
the spiritual body

hope this helps !!!
Just a minor note: I believe "psychikos" is the soul. The English word "psychology" comes from that word which denotes the subjective mind, mental state, subjective emotions, and consciousness; our soul in other words.
 
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