John 3:16 The Most Abused Passage by Free-Willers

[Presby02]

No i am not

In context reading the original reference Isa 54 it is the children of the true disciples who are being taught by god

I do however state that all taught do not come

Jeremiah 31:3–4 (KJV 1900) — 3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: Therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. 4 Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: Thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, And shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.

and scripture bears me out

Again, were in John 6. Hearing and learning is the means by which they are drawn. They will come without fail and are raised on the last day.

 

[TomL]

Again, were in John 6. Hearing and learning is the means by which they are drawn. They will come without fail and are raised on the last day.

The children of the true disciples (old testament church-the true people of God in Isreal )

that is those who truly are God's will hear and learn and thus come

These are not men unconditionally selected who are irresistibly drawn

 

[Presby02]

The children of the true disciples (old testament church-the true people of God in Isreal )

that is those who truly are God's will hear and learn and thus come

These are not men unconditionally selected who are irresistibly drawn

Those who are truly God's WILL hear and learn? So they are God's before hearing and learning?

 

[TomL]

Those who are truly God's WILL hear and learn? So they are God's before hearing and learning?

Yes, God gave to Jesus those that were his

John 17:1–9 (ESV) — 1 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. 6 “I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7 Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours.