Jesus is the Only Way

[The Rogue Tomato]

I believe Jesus is the only way, the way, the truth, and the life.

How do you explain all the patriarchs like Abraham, etc. being saved, or having saving faith without knowing Jesus? I'm satisfied with my own personal view, but I'd like to hear others.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

I believe Jesus is the only way, the way, the truth, and the life.

How do you explain all the patriarchs like Abraham, etc. being saved, or having saving faith without knowing Jesus? I'm satisfied with my own personal view, but I'd like to hear others.

SIMPLE: they were ALL people of FAITH - not specifically in "Jesus" but in the BIBLICAL FACT that God HAD PROMISED to make a way for them to be RELEASED from their SIN. I.e. they looked FORWARD to Calvary, without even knowing what form that would take. Jesus presents the concept of "Abraham's Bosom" in the place of the Dead where the faithful in the OLD TESTAMENT went where they died - "Paradice is anopther term for it,

THERE they WAITED in peace for the realization of the Gospel.

When Jesus DIED, He apparently went to them, and told them: It's TIME!!! I've overcome death, eliminated your SIN, and I'm gonna lead you into Heaven (Led captivity captive).

NOW, when we die physically in FAITH, we go directly to Heaven to be with Him. "Purgatorial sanctification" is a satanic CATHOLIC FANTASY adapted from purely PAGAN beliefs, since no such thing exists, or is even needed.

 

[Dizerner]

Complex topic.

Dispensation where the Holy Spirit worked through different means, more or less.

One might speculate that if the Work of Christ can benefit people who don't know, then the knowledge of Christ is not necessary for salvation; but I would say it's a dispensational thing.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I believe Jesus is the only way, the way, the truth, and the life.

How do you explain all the patriarchs like Abraham, etc. being saved, or having saving faith without knowing Jesus? I'm satisfied with my own personal view, but I'd like to hear others.

Paul said very clearly that the Gospel was preached to Abraham.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Jesus said that Abraham saw the Atonement in Jesus Christ.

Jhn 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Job called Christ redeemer.

Job 19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

Enoch preached Christ.

Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

It is unbelief in Messiah that blinds men. It always has.

Eve was preached the Incarnation.

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Complex topic.

Dispensation where the Holy Spirit worked through different means, more or less.

One might speculate that if the Work of Christ can benefit people who don't know, then the knowledge of Christ is not necessary for salvation; but I would say it's a dispensational thing.

Dispensational is such a limiting teaching. Dispensation is actually terrible translation of the Greek source word used. I was once a dispensationalist. The idea that there is salvation in any other than Christ is false. Faith that pleases God has always been rooted in Messiah. There has been gradual more information recorded concerning Messiah throughout the Scriptures but that is no proof that Messiah wasn't preached from the beginning throughout history.

There is a reason that in Egyption culture "horos" mimics Jesus Christ.

Oral tradition throughout history has long include the preaching of Messiah. The extant Scripture is a retelling of what was lost to the children of Abraham before Egypt. Our ancestors have always heard of the prophet (Moses preached) would rise up from among the people. In Him, shall all men trust.

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

 

[Dizerner]

I was once a dispensationalist.

Dispensation is not equal to dispensationalist.

Completely different things.

I'm a reformed Christian—I've had a reformation in my life.

But I'm NOT by ANY means "Reformed."

 

[praise_yeshua]

Dispensation is not equal to dispensationalist.

Completely different things.

I'm a reformed Christian—I've had a reformation in my life.

But I'm NOT by ANY means "Reformed."

Details how they are different? I believed in dispensationalism relative to the common teaching that God dealt with men differently based upon certain period of time relative to God's revelation to humanity at the time.

Contrary to this, I believe that God has always dealt with humanity the same way. Faith. Not faith in the law. Not faith in human government. Not faith in men of the time but faith in Messiah.