Jesus is Lord/YHWH (Hebrews 1:10; cf. Psalm 102:25)

[Fred]

The "Lord" in Hebrews 1:10 refers to Jesus which proves He is YHWH (cf. Psalm 102:25). Notice the continual reference to Jesus using "Thy" and "Thou" and "Thine" throughout the final passages of Hebrews 1.

Furthermore, the comparison between the Son and the angels continues after Hebrews chapter 1 which demonstrates the "Lord" in 2:3 is the same Lord in 1:10 -> Jesus!

Hebrews 1:4-2:9
(1:4) Having become so much better than the angels, as He hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said He at any time, Thou art My Son, this day have I begotten Thee? And again, I will be to Him a Father and He shall be to Me a Son?
6 And again, when He bringeth in the firstborn into the world, He saith, And let all the angels of God worship Him.
7 And of the angels He saith, Who maketh His angels spirits and His ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: and the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity; therefore God, Thy God, hath anointed Thee with the oil of gladness above Thy fellows.
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of Thy hands.
11 They shall perish; but Thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
12 And as a mantle shalt Thou roll the up; like a garment they shall also be changed. But Thou art the same and Thy years shall not end.
13 But to which of the angels said He at any time, Sit on My right hand until I make Thine enemies Thy footstool?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation?
(2:1) Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should drift away.
2 For if the word spoken by angels was steadfast and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense;
3 How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation; after it was first spoken by the Lord and was confirmed unto us by those who heard;
4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders and with various miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will?
5 For unto the angels hath He not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
6 But one in a certain place solemnly testified, saying, What is man that Thou art mindful of him? Or the son of man that Thou art concerned about him?
7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; Thou crownedst him with glory and honor.
8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not subject unto him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man.


The Creator in Hebrews 1:10...

1. BDAG (3rd Edition): The hand of deity means divine power...
As Creator Acts 7:50...Hebrews 1:10 (cheir, page 1082, the underlined is mine)


...is Jesus

2. BDAG (3rd Edition): in OT quotations, where it is understood of the Lord of the new community...σὺ κατ’ ἀρχάς, κύριε, τὴν γῆν ἐθεμελίωσας Hb 1:10 (cp. Ps 101:26). εἰ ἐγεύσασθε ὅτι χρηστὸς ὁ κύριος 1 Pt 2:3 (cp. Ps 33:9). 1 Pt 3:15 adds Χριστόν to κύριον ἁγιάσατε Is 8:13. (kyrios, page 577-578, the underlined is mine)

 

[Fred]

Psalm 102:25, which Hebrews 1:10 quotes, ties in with Jesus as being the Creator YHWH in 1 Cor. 10:26.

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Post in thread 'Jesus is the "Lord" (YHWH) in 1 Corinthians 10:26 (Psalm 24:1; cf. Deuteronomy 6:4)'

May 18, 2025

the scriptures.

In addition to what is found in the OP, I think there is more proof that the 'Lord' in 1 Corinthians 10:26 refers to the Lord Jesus.

In 1 Cor. 10:26 Paul is quoting from Psalm 24:1.
The very next verse from this Psalm should also be looked at.

Psalm 24:1-2
1 A Psalm of David: The earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
2 For He hath founded it upon the seas and established it upon the floods.

The same Hebrew words for "the earth" ('ereṣ) and "hath founded it" (yāsaḏ)...

• Fred

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[101G]

GINOLJC, to all.
Addressing the OP, YES, Jesus is "Lord", and he is "LORD", her hold both titles .... using both of your books used, Hebrews and Psalms.

Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" so it was the "Lord" who laid the foundation of the earth........ now this, Zechariah 12:1; "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him."

101G ask is this not the same "ONE" PERSON who Laid the foundation of the earth?

now this, Isaiah 48:12; "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." Isaiah 48:13; "Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together."

the term "MINE" means, "used to refer to a thing or things belonging to or associated with the speaker" here in these verses the speaker, who is speaking is "ONE" PERSON. for the "LORD" was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF" when he created and MADE ALL THINGS, reference Isaiah 44:24.

101G.

 

[Capbook]

GINOLJC, to all.
Addressing the OP, YES, Jesus is "Lord", and he is "LORD", her hold both titles .... using both of your books used, Hebrews and Psalms.

Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" so it was the "Lord" who laid the foundation of the earth........ now this, Zechariah 12:1; "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him."

101G ask is this not the same "ONE" PERSON who Laid the foundation of the earth?

now this, Isaiah 48:12; "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." Isaiah 48:13; "Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together."

the term "MINE" means, "used to refer to a thing or things belonging to or associated with the speaker" here in these verses the speaker, who is speaking is "ONE" PERSON. for the "LORD" was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF" when he created and MADE ALL THINGS, reference Isaiah 44:24.

101G.

If we believe what Jesus said in John 5:37, we can harmonize what the Bible verses said about the creation.
If neither heard the voice of the Father anytime except when the Father testified or bore witness for the Son like Hebrews 1:10.

I believe the One who utter the speech in Isaiah 48:12 and 44:24 was the Word/Logos/speech that was God from the beginning (John 1:1c), understanding what Jesus said that neither heard the voice of the Father anytime.
And also as God created all things through the Word. (John 1:3)

John 5:37 "And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.

 

[101G]

If we believe what Jesus said in John 5:37, we can harmonize what the Bible verses said about the creation.
If neither heard the voice of the Father anytime except when the Father testified or bore witness for the Son like Hebrews 1:10.

I believe the One who utter the speech in Isaiah 48:12 and 44:24 was the Word/Logos/speech that was God from the beginning (John 1:1c), understanding what Jesus said that neither heard the voice of the Father anytime.
And also as God created all things through the Word. (John 1:3)

John 5:37 "And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.

GINOLJC, to all.
your point, "John 5:37 "And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form". let's reveal both the voice and the form of God, (JESUS) at the same time, LISTEN CAREFULLY.... John 8:47 "He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."
he, he, he, that is of God.... "HEAR" God.... bingo.

now let's see who hear God word and see his form and HOW the way they see and hear him, (God) ..... Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets."

have this not been even from the Garden of Eden? did not Adam and Eve walked and talked with (GOD, the LORD JESUS) before they sinned? let's check the record. Genesis 3:8 "And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden."

THEY HEARD? ..... the voice of the LORD GOD ... WALKING? ... YES. now let's see, or this seening of God. Exodus 24:9 "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:" Exodus 24:10 "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness." the question, "HOW DID THEY SEE?",
so, what did they see? again Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets." did not God, the LORD JESUS walk with and talked Abraham also? who showed up and told him that he was about to destroy sodom and gomorrah? yes the LORD JESUS. was he not in the similitude of himself as a man?, (is not man in the IMAGE of God? which is to come). now the visions, in which men saw God, (JESUS), Jacob Ladder, or the priest Ezekiel his vision of God on the throne, or the prophet Isaiah especially chapter 6. yes, he saw the Lord Jesus lifted up high. again Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets." Go back to John 8:47 "He that is of God heareth God's words..................... ye therefore hear them not, ............................ because ye are not of God."

now, lets see this MANIFESTATION or similitude clearly...... Hebrews 1:1 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets," Hebrews 1:2 "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" question, WHO MADE THE WORLD? scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" the "LORD" was alone and by himself when he made all things, listen, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." Who made all things the "WORD" here in John 1:3. and who is the WORD here in John? answer, John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." and remember he who created ALL THINGS was "ALONE" and BY HIMSELF. and Alone means, having no one else present. ..... hello. the WORD in John 1:1-3 is the same one person in Isaiah 44:24 who made .... "ALL THINGS".

This is the same ONE PERSON, only "diversified".... or EQUALLY SHARED in Flesh and bone with blood, (Incarnate Sonship ), in the designation of "TIME", "PLACE", "ORDER", and "RANK". Now let's see the (Eternal Sonship, as FATHER). scripture, 1 Peter 1:9 "Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls." 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:" 1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

THE "SPIRIT OF CHRIST?", yes the ETERNAL SPIRIT, who is the LORD JESUS, title "Father".... (smile).

101G.

 

[Capbook]

GINOLJC, to all.
your point, "John 5:37 "And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form". let's reveal both the voice and the form of God, (JESUS) at the same time, LISTEN CAREFULLY.... John 8:47 "He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."
he, he, he, that is of God.... "HEAR" God.... bingo.

Of course, as the Father testified for Jesus (John 5:37) He said, "listen to Him" Jesus is also God, says the Father, yes or no? (Heb 1:8)

now let's see who hear God word and see his form and HOW the way they see and hear him, (God) ..... Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets."

have this not been even from the Garden of Eden? did not Adam and Eve walked and talked with (GOD, the LORD JESUS) before they sinned? let's check the record. Genesis 3:8 "And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden."

Yes, before Jesus birth, I believe the Word that was God from the beginning was named YHWH, if we believe whatt Jesus said in John 5:37, whom said "let Us make man in Our image." And as John 1:3 states, God created all things through the Word.

THEY HEARD? ..... the voice of the LORD GOD ... WALKING? ... YES. now let's see, or this seening of God. Exodus 24:9 "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:" Exodus 24:10 "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness." the question, "HOW DID THEY SEE?",
so, what did they see? again Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets." did not God, the LORD JESUS walk with and talked Abraham also? who showed up and told him that he was about to destroy sodom and gomorrah? yes the LORD JESUS. was he not in the similitude of himself as a man?, (is not man in the IMAGE of God? which is to come). now the visions, in which men saw God, (JESUS), Jacob Ladder, or the priest Ezekiel his vision of God on the throne, or the prophet Isaiah especially chapter 6. yes, he saw the Lord Jesus lifted up high. again Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets." Go back to John 8:47 "He that is of God heareth God's words..................... ye therefore hear them not, ............................ because ye are not of God."

now, lets see this MANIFESTATION or similitude clearly...... Hebrews 1:1 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets," Hebrews 1:2 "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" question, WHO MADE THE WORLD? scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" the "LORD" was alone and by himself when he made all things, listen, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." Who made all things the "WORD" here in John 1:3. and who is the WORD here in John? answer, John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." and remember he who created ALL THINGS was "ALONE" and BY HIMSELF. and Alone means, having no one else present. ..... hello. the WORD in John 1:1-3 is the same one person in Isaiah 44:24 who made .... "ALL THINGS".

This is the same ONE PERSON, only "diversified".... or EQUALLY SHARED in Flesh and bone with blood, (Incarnate Sonship ), in the designation of "TIME", "PLACE", "ORDER", and "RANK". Now let's see the (Eternal Sonship, as FATHER). scripture, 1 Peter 1:9 "Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls." 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:" 1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

THE "SPIRIT OF CHRIST?", yes the ETERNAL SPIRIT, who is the LORD JESUS, title "Father".... (smile).

101G.

May we know from you when was the birth of Jesus? OT or NT?
As I search Scriptures about "eternal Sonship" I found none, maybe you can help me find a verse.
What I find in the OT was "word/logos of the LORD." Except from king Nebuchadnezzar's statement about plural gods.

 

[101G]

Of course, as the Father testified for Jesus (John 5:37) He said, "listen to Him" Jesus is also God, says the Father, yes or no? (Heb 1:8)

There is ONLY ONE "PERSON" who is God, so that term ALSO as to the Lord Jesus being "God" would indicate ... ANOTHER GOD?, which is polytheism at best.

NOW, you quoted, John 5:37 "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape." AND Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Notice the term "God", here. 101G ask..... is this term "God" used here in scripture is it singular or plural in respect to John 5:37 also? now, before you answer, consider this first.

On the day of pentecost, the apostle Peter full of the Holy Spirit made this statement. Acts 2:32 "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses." Peter said "GOD" raised up Jesus .... correct. NOW THIS from the Lord Jesus Mouth.

John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" THE SIGN was his resurrection from the dead after 3 days....... correct,

Now, question time, CAN THE Lord JESUS LIE? no. so either the Lord Jesus raised up his own body or else "GOD" who Peter said raised up Jesus, so that recorded at John 2:19 is in ERROR, meaning GOD HIMSELF LIED... (God forbid).

so, 101G ask, "WHO.... raised up the Lord Jesus Body?", according to John 2:19 and Acts 2:32, your answer please. ........ YIKES!

101G.

 

[101G]

May we know from you when was the birth of Jesus? OT or NT?
As I search Scriptures about "eternal Sonship" I found none, maybe you can help me find a verse.
What I find in the OT was "word/logos of the LORD." Except from king Nebuchadnezzar's statement about plural gods.

First OT, remember the Gospel is OT, until his resurrection.

for "eternal Sonship" try FIRST, Genesis 1:1 then Genesis 1:26, and certified in Matthews 19, just for starters...... (smile).
101G

 

[Capbook]

There is ONLY ONE "PERSON" who is God, so that term ALSO as to the Lord Jesus being "God" would indicate ... ANOTHER GOD?, which is polytheism at best.

NOW, you quoted, John 5:37 "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape." AND Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Notice the term "God", here. 101G ask..... is this term "God" used here in scripture is it singular or plural in respect to John 5:37 also? now, before you answer, consider this first.

On the day of pentecost, the apostle Peter full of the Holy Spirit made this statement. Acts 2:32 "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses." Peter said "GOD" raised up Jesus .... correct. NOW THIS from the Lord Jesus Mouth.

John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" THE SIGN was his resurrection from the dead after 3 days....... correct,

Now, question time, CAN THE Lord JESUS LIE? no. so either the Lord Jesus raised up his own body or else "GOD" who Peter said raised up Jesus, so that recorded at John 2:19 is in ERROR, meaning GOD HIMSELF LIED... (God forbid).

so, 101G ask, "WHO.... raised up the Lord Jesus Body?", according to John 2:19 and Acts 2:32, your answer please. ........ YIKES!

101G.

No one is lying 101G, because the Three are one in the nature of God separate and distinct person to the other.
Let me illustrate this to you, the Father as the mind and heart initiate the plan of salvation, Jesus is the Word, and the Holy Spirit is the one in action here on earth.

You 101G, you have mind and heart, yes or no?
You can utter word, yes or not?
You can do action, yes or no?
Are you three? No, you are only one.
But the Trinity, each possessed emotion, will and thought, a complete definition of person.

 

[Capbook]

First OT, remember the Gospel is OT, until his resurrection.

Ia Mat 1:25 and Luke 1:35 in the Old Testament 101G?

for "eternal Sonship" try FIRST, Genesis 1:1 then Genesis 1:26, and certified in Matthews 19, just for starters...... (smile).
101G

It is the Word who utter those speeches.
Remember John 1:3? God created all things through the Word.

 

[101G]

No one is lying 101G, because the Three are one in the nature of God separate and distinct person to the other.
Let me illustrate this to you, the Father as the mind and heart initiate the plan of salvation, Jesus is the Word, and the Holy Spirit is the one in action here on earth.

You 101G, you have mind and heart, yes or no?
You can utter word, yes or not?
You can do action, yes or no?
Are you three? No, you are only one.
But the Trinity, each possessed emotion, will and thought, a complete definition of person.

GINOLJC, to all.
101G can't believe one can be so deceived. "You 101G, you have mind and heart, yes or no?" yes, NOW Listen carefully.... my heart is not a separate "PERSON" from my mind....... Hello!

Then you said, "Are you three? No, you are only one.". again LISTEN carefully, Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"
HOW MANY "PERSONS" is there beside...... "I and ME" in the verse above? answer, none else

one more, Isaiah 45:6 "That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else." now think before you answer.... how many "PERSONS" beside "ME" in this verse above? your answer please.

now for those who are deep ... asleep, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

if God .... HIMSELF KNOW NOT ANY ... "God", and that's with the capital "G" in God, beside HIM/ME... ONE PERSON, so why do men make God into 3 separate and distinct PERSON? that's spiritual perjury .... better known as a "LIE".

101G.

 

[101G]

la Mat 1:25 and Luke 1:35 in the Old Testament 101G?

ANSWER......OT

It is the Word who utter those speeches.
Remember John 1:3? God created all things through the Word.

Just remember Isaiah 44:24 that he was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF", when he MADE ALL THINGS.... (smile), ... YIKES!
and please look up the term "ALONE" ok.

101G.