Is the word all ever used in a restricted sense ?

[Rowan]

So the word world in a scriptural sense can be and often is , having a restricted sense. Not all mankind are the Children of God, its a division 1 Jn 3:10

in this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Thanks for giving us another example of how Calvinists twist the Word of God.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

This is the core of Christianity: that God loved the world enough to come in human form—Jesus, who died for us, so that anyone who trusts in Him will be saved from sin. This is certainly the most well-known verse in the Bible. It is probably the best-known and most-memorized part of any holy text in human history. The verse is a one-sentence summary of the gospel: the subject line of the entire Bible. The verse also reflects the way the gospel's essential idea is clear, but there are layers of meaning and knowledge inside of it.

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[TibiasDad]

God has even in this day Judged many non elect and has sent them a strong delusion to believe a lie 2 Thess 2:10-12

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

These people will never believe the truth and be saved, there freewill cant deliver them.

9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

1) The context is speaking of a future time, the time of the antichrist. Those who, at that time, will be perishing will be doing so because “they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”

2) “Because of this” (καὶ διὰ τοῦτο), shows that God is reacting to the refusal to believe. Again, this mimics Rom 1:28, “Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.”

God allows us to do what we want to do to our own demise.


Doug

 

[civic]

9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

1) The context is speaking of a future time, the time of the antichrist. Those who, at that time, will be perishing will be doing so because “they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”

2) “Because of this” (καὶ διὰ τοῦτο), shows that God is reacting to the refusal to believe. Again, this mimics Rom 1:28, “Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.”

God allows us to do what we want to do to our own demise.


Doug

Amen

 

[brightfame52]

Thanks for giving us another example of how Calvinists twist the Word of God.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

This is the core of Christianity: that God loved the world enough to come in human form—Jesus, who died for us, so that anyone who trusts in Him will be saved from sin. This is certainly the most well-known verse in the Bible. It is probably the best-known and most-memorized part of any holy text in human history. The verse is a one-sentence summary of the gospel: the subject line of the entire Bible. The verse also reflects the way the gospel's essential idea is clear, but there are layers of meaning and knowledge inside of it.

20 Bible Verses About God’s Love

The Bible is filled with verses about God’s love. It is Jesus’ sacrifice and His life that set an example for Christians. Here are 20 verses about God’s love.

www.pureflix.com

Another example how arminains reject the Truth

 

[brightfame52]

9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

1) The context is speaking of a future time, the time of the antichrist. Those who, at that time, will be perishing will be doing so because “they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”

2) “Because of this” (καὶ διὰ τοῦτο), shows that God is reacting to the refusal to believe. Again, this mimics Rom 1:28, “Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.”

God allows us to do what we want to do to our own demise.


Doug

God sends the non elect a strong delusion to believe a lie, then damns them !

 

[synergy]

Another example how arminains reject the Truth

Huh? What I see here is you rejecting John 3:16 and Rowan embracing it. You're definitely living in some alternate universe reality where common logic does not exist.

 

[Rowan]

Another example how arminains reject the Truth

You misread my post. It's "another example of how Calvinists twist the Word of God."

The inexorably of Calvinism, logically leads to a distortion of God’s character. Of course, no Calvinist admits this, but that’s not the point.

The biblical view is that God gives people real choice to love or reject Him, to follow His ways or turn to their own ways. In this higher view of sovereignty, God allows and can handle the authentic free choices of people and nations – along with the consequences or blessings - yet redeems all things for His ultimate purposes and the good of those who love Him. Thus the famous scripture, Romans 8:28, “And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.”

These two passages further refute God decreeing evil and sin:

Proverbs 15:26: “The Lord detests the plans of the one who is evil.”
How can God detest His own plans for evil in a person that He supposedly sovereignly and unchangeably decreed?

Ephesians 4:30: “Do not grieve the Holy Spirit, by whom you are sealed.”
Why is God grieved over our sins if He supposedly sovereignly decreed every one of them?

 

[brightfame52]

Huh? What I see here is you rejecting John 3:16 and Rowan embracing it. You're definitely living in some alternate universe reality where common logic does not exist.

Yes Jn 3:16 is rejected and then twisted

 

[brightfame52]

You misread my post. It's "another example of how Calvinists twist the Word of God."

The inexorably of Calvinism, logically leads to a distortion of God’s character. Of course, no Calvinist admits this, but that’s not the point.

The biblical view is that God gives people real choice to love or reject Him, to follow His ways or turn to their own ways. In this higher view of sovereignty, God allows and can handle the authentic free choices of people and nations – along with the consequences or blessings - yet redeems all things for His ultimate purposes and the good of those who love Him. Thus the famous scripture, Romans 8:28, “And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.”

These two passages further refute God decreeing evil and sin:

Proverbs 15:26: “The Lord detests the plans of the one who is evil.”
How can God detest His own plans for evil in a person that He supposedly sovereignly and unchangeably decreed?

Ephesians 4:30: “Do not grieve the Holy Spirit, by whom you are sealed.”
Why is God grieved over our sins if He supposedly sovereignly decreed every one of them?

Another example how arminains reject the Truth persisted in

 

[synergy]

Yes Jn 3:16 is rejected and then twisted

Your "yes" means you agree with me when I said that it "is you rejecting John 3:16 and Rowan embracing it" and that "you're definitely living in some alternate universe reality where common logic does not exist". Ok, fine, that settles it and explains everything. I rest my case.

 

[Rowan]

Another example how arminains reject the Truth persisted in

That's odd since I'm not Arminian. I just know the truth and it's not found in Calvinism.

And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.'
John 8:32

As for Calvinists...
You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins” John 8:23–24

Calvinists do not know the love of God, therefore they do not know God.

 

[brightfame52]

Your "yes" means you agree with me when I said that it "is you rejecting John 3:16 and Rowan embracing it" and that "you're definitely living in some alternate universe reality where common logic does not exist". Ok, fine, that settles it and explains everything. I rest my case.

Jn 3:16 is corrupted by arminians, the verse is actually describing the effects of Jesus Death for them God so Loved, in order that whosoever is believing, a present tense participle, may have eternal life

A complimentary John writing says it like this I jn 4:9

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that[in order that] we might live through him. or have eternal life through Him

Both are stating facts and purpose grounded in Gods Love for His Elect, not just in israel, but including gentiles.

The corrupt arminians have hijacked these scriptures and made conditional salvation out of them, wresting scripture to their destruction unless of course God delivers them from it.

 

[Rowan]

Jn 3:16 is corrupted by arminians, the verse is actually describing the effects of Jesus Death for them God so Loved, in order that whosoever is believing, a present tense participle, may have eternal life

A complimentary John writing says it like this I jn 4:9

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that[in order that] we might live through him. or have eternal life through Him

Both are stating facts and purpose grounded in Gods Love for His Elect, not just in israel, but including gentiles.

The corrupt arminians have hijacked these scriptures and made conditional salvation out of them, wresting scripture to their destruction unless of course God delivers them from it.

The whole record of God is that if anyone believes on Jesus Christ, he is saved and has eternal life. If you believe this, then you are saved. If you do not believe this, then you are calling God a liar. Please note this to be the official “record” of God. This is what God would like you to know, as a result of reading the scriptures. Not made up, manmade Calvinistic theology.

 

[synergy]

Jn 3:16 is corrupted by arminians, the verse is actually describing the effects of Jesus Death for them God so Loved, in order that whosoever is believing, a present tense participle, may have eternal life

A complimentary John writing says it like this I jn 4:9

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that[in order that] we might live through him. or have eternal life through Him

Both are stating facts and purpose grounded in Gods Love for His Elect, not just in israel, but including gentiles.

The corrupt arminians have hijacked these scriptures and made conditional salvation out of them, wresting scripture to their destruction unless of course God delivers them from it.

Too late. I have it on record that you said "yes" which means that you agreed with me when I said that it "is you rejecting John 3:16 and Rowan embracing it" and that "you're definitely living in some alternate universe reality where common logic does not exist". That settled it, it explained everything, and I rested my case. Good night.

 

[brightfame52]

The whole record of God is that if anyone believes on Jesus Christ, he is saved and has eternal life. If you believe this, then you are saved. If you do not believe this, then you are calling God a liar. Please note this to be the official “record” of God. This is what God would like you to know, as a result of reading the scriptures. Not made up, manmade Calvinistic theology.

Jn 3:16 has been twisted so much, satan has had a successful campaign deceiving people with that verse.

 

[brightfame52]

Too late. I have it on record that you said "yes" which means that you agreed with me when I said that it "is you rejecting John 3:16 and Rowan embracing it" and that "you're definitely living in some alternate universe reality where common logic does not exist". That settled it, it explained everything, and I rested my case. Good night.

You deceived friend, good night

 

[Rowan]

Jn 3:16 has been twisted so much, satan has had a successful campaign deceiving people with that verse.

Speak for yourself. You and Satan have fun with your campaign deceiving people. It may be hard to explain at the Judgment.

 

[brightfame52]

Speak for yourself. You and Satan have fun with your campaign deceiving people. It may be hard to explain at the Judgment.

I will see you at the Judgment, I hope you are given faith to believe the Gospel b4 you get there though.