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Basically it's a term He never uses. Ever.
Is God really Immutable ?
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Wick Stick
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There's a philosophical argument out there that a God who changes... isn't a God.
But, the idea that God doesn't change isn't absent from the Bible.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
But, the idea that God doesn't change isn't absent from the Bible.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Pancho Frijoles
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I don't think God changes. I think He is immutable. But the wonderful thing is that His Manifestation (the way He manifests) is continuously changing.
We see it in creation, we see it in Scriptures. Existence in this contingent dimension means change.
In other words: the God that we perceive "moves" constantly, but we know that this happens because we are moving, not because He is moving.
It's like the sun and the earth, in primitive thinking. We perceived the sun as moving.... but it is not. We are moving with earth.
So, for example, the way God manifested Himself in the Old Testament is different from the way God manifested Himself in the New Testament, or in the Quran. But God Himself is the same all the way through. It is just that men in the OT and men in the NT and men in the Quran had different needs and historical and cultural circumstances and different capabilities. So God manifested to men in different ways. But God Himself never changed.
We see it in creation, we see it in Scriptures. Existence in this contingent dimension means change.
In other words: the God that we perceive "moves" constantly, but we know that this happens because we are moving, not because He is moving.
It's like the sun and the earth, in primitive thinking. We perceived the sun as moving.... but it is not. We are moving with earth.
So, for example, the way God manifested Himself in the Old Testament is different from the way God manifested Himself in the New Testament, or in the Quran. But God Himself is the same all the way through. It is just that men in the OT and men in the NT and men in the Quran had different needs and historical and cultural circumstances and different capabilities. So God manifested to men in different ways. But God Himself never changed.
atpollard
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Is God really Immutable ?
immutable adjective im·mu·ta·ble : not capable of or susceptible to change [Merriam-Webster Dictionary]
- [Psa 110:4 ESV] 4 The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind, "You are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek."
- [Mal 3:6 ESV] 6 "For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.
- [Heb 7:21 ESV] 21 but this one was made a priest with an oath by the one who said to him: "The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind, 'You are a priest forever.'"
