praise_yeshua
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Defining the "image of God" is important. Without that definition, all people do is argue over much of nothing.
So, define the image of God.
So, define the image of God.
Image of God
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praise_yeshua
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Bump.....
I'll make a argument since some may avoid this.
In the context of the "image of God", how was Adam made in the image of God when he came from dust? The very "image of God" doesn't contain dirt, dust or ashes.
I'll make a argument since some may avoid this.
In the context of the "image of God", how was Adam made in the image of God when he came from dust? The very "image of God" doesn't contain dirt, dust or ashes.
civic
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I’ll start out with the following regarding the image if God in man. Like God man is a rational, volitional being having a soul/spirit. We can reason and choose. This is a direct reflection of God’s intellect and freedom. And like God man can invent, create not ex nihilo like God but this also reflects God. This is where man differed from both angels and animals. The image of God in man is why man is redeemable and not the angels or animals.
Hopefully others will chime in and I’m all about learning from others on this topic. The above is just off the top of my head.
hope this helps !!!
Hopefully others will chime in and I’m all about learning from others on this topic. The above is just off the top of my head.
hope this helps !!!
TibiasDad
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The Image of God means the nature of God’s essential being, the attributes and qualities that define him as God.
This includes being rational, personal, relational, among other things, and being “Omni” in the capacity of all that he is and possesses. The cumulative effect of his being who he is means that he is Sovereign above all other beings and things and cannot be ultimately overcome or subdued or hindered from accomplishing his desires and purposes.
We, being created in his image, mirror these qualities, but in a finite manner. He is infallible in all his ways, but we are fallible and because of our sinfulness as a result of Adam’s actions, we are prone to sin inevitably.
Doug
praise_yeshua
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Okay. Got it.
I can't accept your contradiction here. You recognize Adam was finite yet declare Adam is in the image of God when he was created. This is a glaring contradiction that exists in the traditions of men and the doctrines they teach.
I try to begin to deal with these issues by point that Adam was peccable. This is contradictory to the fact that Christ Jesus was Impeccable.
The first Adam is different than the second Adam. The "Image of God" is only fully found in the Immortal Person of Jesus Christ.
There are "finger prints" left in the "clay" Adam was made of but they are woefully inadequate in comparison to the second Adam.
Notice the Scriptures....
1Co 15:45 So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living person”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1Co 15:46 However, the spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and then the spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is from the earth, made of dust; the second man is from heaven.
1Co 15:48 Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust, and like the one from heaven, so too those who are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, let us also bear the image of the man of heaven.
Thusly, Adam was never even close to being like the full image of God in Jesus Christ when he was created. He was simply a "work in progress" that needed to be "born from above". God purposed that birth "from above" for the willing.
Adam was given an independent mind to chose his own path. To be his own "person". Such was mutable not Immutable. You see sin changing Adam and I'm not saying it didn't. However, Adam was never enough when he was created from the dust of the earth.
We have a bodily form that awaits us. Our "house that is from heaven". Immortal. Adam was weak from the beginning just like Christ experienced the weakness of humanity in our existence. The "willingness of the servant" must be established through experience.
Exo 21:2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
Exo 21:3 If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.
Exo 21:4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
Exo 21:5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:
Exo 21:6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
TibiasDad
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First, Adam/humans are not the “full image of God”, but are patterned after the nature of God. We are similar but not identical in our nature of being.
God is all powerful, we have power.
God is intelligent, we are intelligent.
God is relational, so are we.
God is creative, ditto for humans.
God’s capacity for all these things are infinite, ours are finite.
Secondly, Adam was in need of nothing spiritually when created. He only became needy after he sinned.
Doug
