I'm not ashamed of the gospel

[Jay]

The Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” (Acts 16:30). Paul and Silas responded, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31).

Jesus clearly taught in John 3:16 that He will save anyone who believes in Him: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” This “whoever” includes you and every other person in the world.

 

[atpollard]

The Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” (Acts 16:30). Paul and Silas responded, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31).

You stated …

Either you will chose to believe the Gospel or you will chose to reject the Gospel.

Where is the EITHER/OR choice of the Jailer?
Clearly God had already done a work in his heart to prompt the question: “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

I suggested that you look to John 10. If you had, you would have discovered WHY some believe and some do not:

John 10:25-30 [NLT]​

Jesus replied, "I have already told you, and you don't believe me. The proof is the work I do in my Father's name. But you don't believe me because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me, for my Father has given them to me, and he is more powerful than anyone else. No one can snatch them from the Father's hand. The Father and I are one."​

Key points:

• some do not believe BECAUSE they are not His sheep
• some listen BECAUSE they are His sheep
• the difference is because the Father GAVE some to Him

Those are Jesus’ words and Jesus’ explanation … not mine.

 

[Cosmo]

Jesus' religious critics have disputed His teaching and miracles, going as far as to attribute His works to Satan (Mark 3:22). As Jesus has stated, their stubbornness is exactly that: a willful refusal to follow truth (John 5:39–40). They cannot understand because they don't want to understand (John 7:17). Now, these same religious leaders—collectively referred to in John's gospel as "the Jews"—are daring Jesus to repeat His claims. They've surrounded Him in a part of the temple which offers no escape route (John 10:24), seem already prepared for violence (John 10:31), and have challenged Him to say something everyone knows they don't want to hear.

Here, Jesus reiterates a point he made for these men a few months prior: they don't hear His voice because they are not His "sheep" (John 10:1–6). Like sheep, which only recognize the voice of their specific master, these men are practically deaf to the voice of God. As pointed out before, these men are ultimately proving that their master is the Devil (John 8:42–47). Jesus' voice is God's voice (John 10:30); if they don't hear the voice of God, it means they're not part of His "flock." Bible Ref.

The good news for unsaved people today is if they have the Gospel preached to them, they can choose to believe in Jesus and then become one of His sheep.

 

[atpollard]

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[Dizerner]

See Ephesians 2:1-10 and Romans 8:29-30 ... that's why.

Non sequitur.

 

[atpollard]

Non sequitur.

No, you wanted to know why we had to trust and those verses explain why we have to trust … it involves a whole bunch of things that God did (Foreknew, predestined, justified, made alive, a gift of salvation by grace through faith not of ourselves). Thus it was NOT a non sequitur. I am not to blame if you lack “ears to hear”. The WORD stands even if you reject it as the answer to your question.

Ephesians 2:1-10 and Romans 8:29-30

 

[Dizerner]

it involves a whole bunch of things that God did

Logic dictates that what I do and what God does are different things.

If trust is something God does through you, then it's not something you even do.

I hope you do smuggle the concept of actual free will underneath all your confusion—I really hope you do.

 

[Johann]

This would definitely be good to add to the website.

Removed by Admin

Link is dead @Administrator.

J.

 

[Administrator]

Link is dead @Administrator.

J.

We took it down.

 

[Johann]

Only if one chooses to believe in such a nonsense. The Apostle Paul knew better.

Preach Christ and Him crucified and everything will fall into place.

Romans 16:25
"Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ..."
Paul explicitly describes his gospel as the preaching of Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:23
"But we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness."
The verb κηρύσσομεν (we preach) is present active indicative--denoting continual action. Christ crucified is the central message.

1 Corinthians 2:2
"For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified."
Paul’s focus in preaching is singular: Christ and Him crucified. This verse defines the content and scope of his preaching ministry.

1 Corinthians 9:16
"Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!"
Though not naming Christ here, Paul means the gospel of Christ (cf. Gal 1:11; Rom 1:16). The verb is εὐαγγελίζωμαι (preach good news).

2 Corinthians 1:19
"For the Son of God, Christ Jesus, who was preached among you by us..."
Paul affirms that Christ Himself—not a philosophy or tradition—was the subject of their preaching.

2 Corinthians 4:5
"For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus’ sake."
A direct contrast: Paul does not exalt human messengers, but proclaims Jesus as Lord (κύριον).

Galatians 1:15–16
"...God...was pleased to reveal His Son in me so that I might preach Him among the Gentiles..."
Here Paul links his apostolic calling with the express purpose of preaching Christ.

Galatians 3:1
"...before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?"
Though not using “preach” directly here, the Greek verb προεγράφη (publicly portrayed) implies vivid public proclamation of Christ crucified.

Ephesians 3:8
"To me...this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable riches of Christ..."
Paul’s commission is defined by preaching the riches of Christ.

Philippians 1:15–18
"...some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even from envy and strife...What then? Only that in every way...Christ is proclaimed, and in this I rejoice."
Paul rejoices not in motives, but in the fact that Christ is being preached.

Colossians 1:28
"Him we proclaim, warning every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete in Christ."
Paul is clear: Christ is the one he proclaims (Greek: ὃν καταγγέλλομεν).

1 Thessalonians 2:9 / 2 Thessalonians 1:8
These refer to preaching the gospel of God or of Christ—implicitly the message about Jesus as the Messiah and Savior.


Acts 9:20
"And immediately he began to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, saying, 'He is the Son of God.'"
This is Paul’s first recorded preaching, after his conversion.

Acts 17:3
"...explaining and giving evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead, and saying, ‘This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ.’"
Paul proclaims Jesus as the Christ (Messiah) with scriptural evidence.

Acts 18:5
"Paul began devoting himself completely to the word, testifying to the Jews that Jesus was the Christ."
The Greek word διαμαρτυρόμενος implies solemn, urgent testimony.

Acts 28:31
"preaching the kingdom of God and teaching things concerning the Lord Jesus Christ with all openness, unhindered."
This verse closes the Book of Acts, showing Paul’s enduring focus on preaching Christ.


Paul does not preach moralism, Judaism, self-help, or abstract philosophy. He consistently preaches:

Christ crucified (1 Cor 1:23)

Christ risen (Rom 1:4; 1 Cor 15)

Christ as Lord (2 Cor 4:5)

The riches of Christ (Eph 3:8)

The person and work of Christ for salvation (Gal 1:15–16)

Your thread has tremendous potential brother.

J.

 

[brightfame52]

Exactly who is it that believes the Gospel of their Salvation upon spiritually hearing the word of truth Eph 1:13-14

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

So lets follow the context and go back to Vs 4, which are some of things they no doubt heard in the Gospel, so those who believed had been according to context in Vs 4 Chosen in the Believed before the foundation of the world, Vs 5 Predestinated unto the adoption of Sons, Vs 6 and very importantly, they had been already accepted in the Beloved:

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

This acceptance was premised on the Praise of the Glory of His Grace, nothing in ourselves

Vs 7 They had been redeemed through His Blood and had forgiveness of sins. Now when were they redeemed through His Blood ? It was at the Cross, or the Blood of His Cross, not when they believed in time. Col 1:20

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Thats also forgiveness of sins, there could be no forgiveness, of sins unless Peace was made by the blood of the Cross.

So these are some of the Spiritual blessings they had Vs 3 prior to believing the word of Truth, and these things they heard in the apostolic Preaching of the Gospel. So in context we have those it is that believed the Truth and trusted in Vs 13 and notice also this is called their inheritance, because they were alway heirs of salvation

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

The Holy Spirit they were sealed by was part of their eternal inheritance

 

[brightfame52]

Notice again Vs 6 of Eph 1

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Our acceptance in the Beloved is Eternal, for in the Mind and Heart of God there was never a time God didn't see us in Christ in Love, and the Grace was given us in Christ before the world began, hence to the praise of the Glory of His Grace 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Exactly who is it that believes the Gospel of their Salvation upon spiritually hearing the word of truth Eph 1:13-14

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

So lets follow the context and go back to Vs 4, which are some of things they no doubt heard in the Gospel, so those who believed had been according to context in Vs 4 Chosen in the Believed before the foundation of the world, Vs 5 Predestinated unto the adoption of Sons, Vs 6 and very importantly, they had been already accepted in the Beloved:

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

This acceptance was premised on the Praise of the Glory of His Grace, nothing in ourselves

Vs 7 They had been redeemed through His Blood and had forgiveness of sins. Now when were they redeemed through His Blood ? It was at the Cross, or the Blood of His Cross, not when they believed in time. Col 1:20

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Thats also forgiveness of sins, there could be no forgiveness, of sins unless Peace was made by the blood of the Cross.

So these are some of the Spiritual blessings they had Vs 3 prior to believing the word of Truth, and these things they heard in the apostolic Preaching of the Gospel. So in context we have those it is that believed the Truth and trusted in Vs 13 and notice also this is called their inheritance, because they were alway heirs of salvation

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

The Holy Spirit they were sealed by was part of their eternal inheritance

Then let us know that interfaith graves and only JESUS saves .
After YE beleived . Tis of the dire and upmost importance the peoples return
to the preaching of JESUS the CHRIST with all reminders of the aboslute dire necessity to beleive on HIM
or perish .
Beware lest that come upon you which is written in the prophets
Behold wonder and PERISH for I work a work in your days
that you will in no way beleive though a man declare it unto you . Tis absolutely necessary
to Beleive ON JESUS the CHRIST . And let none who name the Glorious NAME of JESUS THE CHRIST
ever try and imply otherwise and feed the lost false hope or the blood of them will be upon the hands
of all who did so .

 

[brightfame52]

Then let us know that interfaith graves and only JESUS saves .
After YE beleived . Tis of the dire and upmost importance the peoples return
to the preaching of JESUS the CHRIST with all reminders of the aboslute dire necessity to beleive on HIM
or perish .
Beware lest that come upon you which is written in the prophets
Behold wonder and PERISH for I work a work in your days
that you will in no way beleive though a man declare it unto you . Tis absolutely necessary
to Beleive ON JESUS the CHRIST . And let none who name the Glorious NAME of JESUS THE CHRIST
ever try and imply otherwise and feed the lost false hope or the blood of them will be upon the hands
of all who did so .

Did you understand the post friend ?

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Did you understand the post friend ?

I understand very clearly that JESUS saves
but jesus graves . Any other jesus that omits a word HE said and taught AINT JESUS .
That , and that by grace , I DO KNOW .
I know many now follow another jesus and as a result
they truly do follow another god . that god has come to unite the deceived
and he knows how to make a cause seem good and just and loving and necessary .
But its all death leading only to the second death . I KNOW that .
I know no sheep buys into the line
OH those teachings were for another age , or whatever line is used to omit
what the original apostles taught and said . I know that .
but it sure seems many do not know that as they often sit under pastors
who have twisted and omitted such lovely words to suit the ear of the hearer who desired the lie
so he or she could feel saved and have the sin they always wanted .
I know that .
How many sit in churches with their third or even fourth wives
HOW many sit in churches where THE WOMEN Lead them .
HOW many sit in churches where it always spoken of health , wealth , money and ya best life now .
HOW MANY sit in churches where even the dark rainbow is accepted .
HOW many sit in churches where very little of the WORDS of GOD are even taught
and when they are its always to twist them to a certain agenda of men .
I KNOW that . BIBLE TIME . I KNOW THAT TOO . It is BIBLE TIME IN THE HOUSE
and dont let men ever once tell you by any way or means ONE cannot learn that bible for themselves .

 

[brightfame52]

I understand very clearly that JESUS saves
but jesus graves . Any other jesus that omits a word HE said and taught AINT JESUS .
That , and that by grace , I DO KNOW .
I know many now follow another jesus and as a result
they truly do follow another god . that god has come to unite the deceived
and he knows how to make a cause seem good and just and loving and necessary .
But its all death leading only to the second death . I KNOW that .
I know no sheep buys into the line
OH those teachings were for another age , or whatever line is used to omit
what the original apostles taught and said . I know that .
but it sure seems many do not know that as they often sit under pastors
who have twisted and omitted such lovely words to suit the ear of the hearer who desired the lie
so he or she could feel saved and have the sin they always wanted .
I know that .
How many sit in churches with their third or even fourth wives
HOW many sit in churches where THE WOMEN Lead them .
HOW many sit in churches where it always spoken of health , wealth , money and ya best life now .
HOW MANY sit in churches where even the dark rainbow is accepted .
HOW many sit in churches where very little of the WORDS of GOD are even taught
and when they are its always to twist them to a certain agenda of men .
I KNOW that . BIBLE TIME . I KNOW THAT TOO . It is BIBLE TIME IN THE HOUSE
and dont let men ever once tell you by any way or means ONE cannot learn that bible for themselves .

Okay, but you lost me, thanks for your input