Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” with a dollop of "free will".

[Studyman]

In principle, no, but God has shown kindness to all “in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” His wrath is for those who reject his undeserved kindness.

Doug

Yes, He went to the thief and the adulterer and said to the thief, while he was yet a thief, "go and steal no more" and I will advocate on your behalf to my Father, now go and don't commit adultery no more, with a promise that if they "continue in God's Goodness" (not stealing, not committing adultery or what ever transgressions they lived in) that He would speak on our behalf, as our Advocate and save us from the death our transgressions brought to us.

But for those who call Him Lord, Lord, but continue not in God's Goodness, Jesus Himself said He doesn't even k ow these men.

How can a man who doesn't even know me, advocate on my behalf?

I think Paul understood this teaching of the Christ and wanted to affirm the teaching in Rom 11

 

[TibiasDad]

It is not Calvinism because PCE rebukes the contention that GOD predestined the fall nor sin for HIS glory most strongly...

I am not familiar with the “PCE” (which I am guessing means Presbyterian Church of England, but that may not be correct), but I am quite familiar with historic Calvinistic thought, and predestination of all things is the foundation of Calvinism.

The idea that “ a holy GOD going against HIMself by creating sinners by means of HIS boy Adam according to HIS will” is perfectly consistent with the meticulous predetermination of Calvinism!

PCE contends that everyone got a free will choice before the fall. WE chose our FATES by faith, an unproven hope, either to be HIS heavenly Bride or to be HIS eternal enemies, before the creation of the physical universe…

How does one make a decision before they exist, much less “before the creation of the physical universe…”? Choosing of “our fates by faith” before creation is a ridiculous notion. It is logical hogwash!

Then do you repudiate the sinfulness of infants?

Infants are sinful in nature , but are not culpable for their condition until they knowingly and willingly sin. We are sinful from birth but not a culpable sinner until we are cognizant of right and wrong and we deliberately do something sinful.

Maybe you repudiate that death is the wages for sin?

Ridiculous! Spiritual death occurred when Adam sinned.

Believing infants in the womb

There is no such thing as a “believing infant in the womb”!


Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

But for those who call Him Lord, Lord, but continue not in God's Goodness, Jesus Himself said He doesn't even k ow these men.

There are many who think themselves to be Christians, but have never truly believed. “Know” in biblical and theological terms means to be in close, intimate, relationship. In physical contexts, in mean sexual intimacy. In spiritual contexts, in means spiritual relationships that are intimate.

How can a man who doesn't even know me, advocate on my behalf?

It doesn’t mean that he is ignorant of who they are. An omniscient being has intellectual awareness about everything and everyone!


Doug