Did Jesus Change the Law?

[jeremiah1five]

Two questions and their accompanying answers.

Question #1: Did the high priest ever leave Israel and go to Gentiles and offer sacrifices for them?
Answer #1: NO.

Question #2: As High Priest did Jesus change the Law and offer sacrifice of Himself for Gentiles?
Answer #2: NO.

Very simple.

 

[Doug Brents]

Two questions and their accompanying answers.

Question #1: Did the high priest ever leave Israel and go to Gentiles and offer sacrifices for them?
Answer #1: NO.

Question #2: As High Priest did Jesus change the Law and offer sacrifice of Himself for Gentiles?
Answer #2: NO.

Very simple.

The high priest under the Law of Moses was only the high priest of the Jews, for they were the only people subject to the Law of Moses.

Yet Jesus is the High Priest of a greater covenant made on greater promises and sealed with a greater sacrifice. The OT priests made yearly, monthly, and daily sacrifices, but Jesus made just one sacrifice for all people for all time. Jesus didn't just change the Law, He removed the entirety of the Law of Moses, and instituted a New Law, and the New Law includes both Jews and Gentiles as equals.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The high priest under the Law of Moses was only the high priest of the Jews, for they were the only people subject to the Law of Moses.

Yet Jesus is the High Priest of a greater covenant made on greater promises and sealed with a greater sacrifice. The OT priests made yearly, monthly, and daily sacrifices, but Jesus made just one sacrifice for all people for all time. Jesus didn't just change the Law, He removed the entirety of the Law of Moses, and instituted a New Law, and the New Law includes both Jews and Gentiles as equals.

Let's test that with Scripture.

Here is the prophecy of the New Covenant. Jesus did not change the Law nor 'reform' it as you say for even reforming it would destroy the Law. But by fulfilling the Law does not mean bringing an end to the Law. He still commanded His true disciples that if they love Him to obey His commandments. And His commandments are the Law/Torah. But first, here is the New Covenant. Take note that this New Covenant Jesus Christ came to institute DOES NOT INCLUDE GENTILES.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law [Torah] in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour [member of another tribe], and every man his brother [member of the same tribe], saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:31–34.

Nope. There are NO GENTILES in the New Covenant Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection brought into existence. No more blood of goats and bulls as was done under the Mosaic of which the children of Israel were part of. And now it was the blood of Jesus Christ, Israel's Redeemer, Messiah, and King that has taken away the sins of the Hebrew/Jewish people. Sorry, but there are no Gentiles in the New Covenant.
But don't trip. God is saving Gentiles WITHOUT a covenant.
You are incorrect, Douglas.
But hang with me and I'll get you to the Promised Land.

23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations,
Even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying,
We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
Zech. 8:23.

 

[Doug Brents]

Let's test that with Scripture.

Here is the prophecy of the New Covenant. Jesus did not change the Law nor 'reform' it as you say for even reforming it would destroy the Law. But by fulfilling the Law does not mean bringing an end to the Law. He still commanded His true disciples that if they love Him to obey His commandments. And His commandments are the Law/Torah.

God's Law WAS the Law of Moses/Torah right up to the point where the Law was fulfilled. What did God say was the Law of Moses and the Old Covenant? It was likened to Hagar, the slave woman, who was the mother of Ishmael, and both she and her son were driven out of the camp of Abraham and were not heirs of the Promise. But Sarah was the mother of the son of promise, and she is likened to the New Covenant and the New Law.

But first, here is the New Covenant. Take note that this New Covenant Jesus Christ came to institute DOES NOT INCLUDE GENTILES.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law [Torah] in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour [member of another tribe], and every man his brother [member of the same tribe], saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:31–34.

Nope. There are NO GENTILES in the New Covenant Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection brought into existence. No more blood of goats and bulls as was done under the Mosaic of which the children of Israel were part of. And now it was the blood of Jesus Christ, Israel's Redeemer, Messiah, and King that has taken away the sins of the Hebrew/Jewish people. Sorry, but there are no Gentiles in the New Covenant.

That last is a false statement. What did John the Baptizer say to the Pharisees in Matt 3:9? "and do not assume that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father’; for I tell you that God is able, from these stones, to raise up children for Abraham." If God can make stones into children for Abraham, how much easier is it to simply adopt Gentiles into Abraham's root? For that is what God did, as He says in Rom 11. The Gentiles (not just proselytes, but any Gentile) are grafted in to the tree that is the family of Abraham through Jesus Christ. We are then co-heirs with Christ and fully bound to the covenant promise that was to Abraham fulfilled in Christ Jesus (Rom 8:15-16).

But don't trip. God is saving Gentiles WITHOUT a covenant.

There is no salvation without covenant. Covenant is relationship, it is the bond word of God, and without it there is no salvation.

You are incorrect, Douglas.
But hang with me and I'll get you to the Promised Land.

23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations,
Even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying,
We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
Zech. 8:23.

What is the result of this figurative language? How does one "take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew"? Through becoming a follower of the ONE Jew who is capable of leading anyone to Heaven? By surrender to the ONE Jew who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life? The ONE way to the Father?

 

[jeremiah1five]

God's Law WAS the Law of Moses/Torah right up to the point where the Law was fulfilled. What did God say was the Law of Moses and the Old Covenant? It was likened to Hagar, the slave woman, who was the mother of Ishmael, and both she and her son were driven out of the camp of Abraham and were not heirs of the Promise. But Sarah was the mother of the son of promise, and she is likened to the New Covenant and the New Law.

By Christ fulfilling the Law does not mean the end of the Law. We still have to not have other gods before us and not kill. The New Covenant Christ instituted was between God and the House of Israel and there are no Gentiles in the House of Israel and the House of Judah. God has NO COVENANT with Gentiles.
None.

That last is a false statement. What did John the Baptizer say to the Pharisees in Matt 3:9? "and do not assume that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father’; for I tell you that God is able, from these stones, to raise up children for Abraham." If God can make stones into children for Abraham, how much easier is it to simply adopt Gentiles into Abraham's root? For that is what God did, as He says in Rom 11. The Gentiles (not just proselytes, but any Gentile) are grafted in to the tree that is the family of Abraham through Jesus Christ. We are then co-heirs with Christ and fully bound to the covenant promise that was to Abraham fulfilled in Christ Jesus (Rom 8:15-16).

Show me in the Hebrew Scripture in the Law, Psalms, and Prophets any Scripture of God making a covenant with Gentiles.
There is none. There is no covenant with God Gentiles can speak of. None.
God has covenant with Abram the Hebrew and with his seed. His seed is Isaac (not Ishmael), with Jacob (not Esau) and with Jacob's twelve sons which are identified as the children of Jacob/Israel.
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles. Salvation is OF THE JEWS.

There is no salvation without covenant. Covenant is relationship, it is the bond word of God, and without it there is no salvation.

The three salvation covenants beginning with Abram the Hebrew (Gen. 14:13) is a covenant God made with a Hebrew from the seed of Eber. Abraham's seed went to Isaac, Jacob, and Jacob's twelve sons whose descendants were delivered out of Egypt. The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the children of Israel. The New Covenant instituted at the Hebrew Passover in the upper room was in keeping with the Mosaic Covenant and the Abrahamic Covenant and through the death, burial, and resurrection of Messiah Jesus this New Covenant is also with the Hebrew people also known as the children of Israel. Gentiles are not included in the New Covenant.

What is the result of this figurative language? How does one "take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew"? Through becoming a follower of the ONE Jew who is capable of leading anyone to Heaven? By surrender to the ONE Jew who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life? The ONE way to the Father?

That's not what the passage is talking about.
It reinforces that salvation is OF THE JEWS - NOT Gentiles.
You are misunderstanding Scripture because you re-interpret it with a Gentile mindset which leads you to error.
Go, take hold of the skirt of a Jew and ask him what it means.

 

[Doug Brents]

By Christ fulfilling the Law does not mean the end of the Law. We still have to not have other gods before us and not kill. The New Covenant Christ instituted was between God and the House of Israel and there are no Gentiles in the House of Israel and the House of Judah. God has NO COVENANT with Gentiles.
None.

Jesus restated most of the "moral law" portions of the Law of Moses in His life, making them part of the New Covenant.
But your comment about Gentiles not being in the House of Israel is not correct. Everyone who is in Christ is adopted into Israel.

Show me in the Hebrew Scripture in the Law, Psalms, and Prophets any Scripture of God making a covenant with Gentiles.
There is none. There is no covenant with God Gentiles can speak of. None.
God has covenant with Abram the Hebrew and with his seed. His seed is Isaac (not Ishmael), with Jacob (not Esau) and with Jacob's twelve sons which are identified as the children of Jacob/Israel.
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles. Salvation is OF THE JEWS.

And anyone who accepts Jesus as Christ and Lord becomes a child of Jacob/Israel, and is adopted into the New Covenant with Christ.

The three salvation covenants beginning with Abram the Hebrew (Gen. 14:13) is a covenant God made with a Hebrew from the seed of Eber. Abraham's seed went to Isaac, Jacob, and Jacob's twelve sons whose descendants were delivered out of Egypt. The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the children of Israel. The New Covenant instituted at the Hebrew Passover in the upper room was in keeping with the Mosaic Covenant and the Abrahamic Covenant and through the death, burial, and resurrection of Messiah Jesus this New Covenant is also with the Hebrew people also known as the children of Israel. Gentiles are not included in the New Covenant.

Your opinion is duly noted, but it is irrelevant in the face of Scripture which states otherwise.

That's not what the passage is talking about.
It reinforces that salvation is OF THE JEWS - NOT Gentiles.
You are misunderstanding Scripture because you re-interpret it with a Gentile mindset which leads you to error.
Go, take hold of the skirt of a Jew and ask him what it means.

I have many Jewish friends who believe in Jesus as the Messiah. And we ALL accept the Gentiles who worship Yeshua Hamashiach as brothers, and bound to the New Covenant with us.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Jesus restated most of the "moral law" portions of the Law of Moses in His life, making them part of the New Covenant.
But your comment about Gentiles not being in the House of Israel is not correct. Everyone who is in Christ is adopted into Israel.

Scripture CANNOT BE BROKEN.
ALL the covenants are with the Hebrew people, from Abram the Hebrew:

13 And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew;
Gen. 14:13.

God made covenant with Abram THE HEBREW. God promised Abram's seed would also be recipients of the covenant promises.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.

Scripture CANNOT BE BROKEN. God IS a respecter of persons:

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Ex. 2:24–25.

This is the Mosaic Covenant God made with the children of Israel:
3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. Ex. 19:2–6.

God NEVER said these words to Gentiles.

But that's not all. God made New Covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Jacob and Scripture CANNOT BE BROKEN by Gentiles that want to elbow their way into the Hebrew covenants. It is unbiblical and it's called inheritance theft, like being a tomb raider.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour [member of another tribe], and every man his brother [member of the same tribe], saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:31–34.

There are no Gentiles in any of these Hebrew Covenants. NONE.
But you want to teach Gentile inclusion which is a lie. The Scripture cannot be broken.
But by wanting to add Gentiles when there are no Gentiles in any of the Hebrew Covenants you BREAK Scripture and this is a sin. You add to the Bible things that are NOT THERE and it NEVER says.

This is what God thinks of you and others that do such devilish works.

6 Add thou not unto his words,
Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Prov. 30:6.

And anyone who accepts Jesus as Christ and Lord becomes a child of Jacob/Israel, and is adopted into the New Covenant with Christ.

The Scripture cannot be broken. The covenants are between God and the Hebrew people.
There are no Gentiles mentioned in any of the Hebrew covenants.
NONE.

Your opinion is duly noted, but it is irrelevant in the face of Scripture which states otherwise.
I have many Jewish friends who believe in Jesus as the Messiah. And we ALL accept the Gentiles who worship Yeshua Hamashiach as brothers, and bound to the New Covenant with us.

The Hebrew covenants do not include any Gentiles.
Tell your Jewish friends to join so I can school them in the Word of God.

 

[Doug Brents]

Scripture CANNOT BE BROKEN.
ALL the covenants are with the Hebrew people, from Abram the Hebrew:

I am not debating that the Old Covenant was made with the nation of Israel. And I am not debating that the New Covenant was made FIRST with the children of Israel. But what Scripture says is that the Gentiles are grafted in as equals, and made co-heir with Christ.

This is the Mosaic Covenant God made with the children of Israel:
3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. Ex. 19:2–6.

God NEVER said these words to Gentiles.

Peter wrote to all those who were called to follow Jesus:
1 Pet 1:1-2 - "Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who reside as strangers, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you."
And in chapter 2:9-10, "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy."
The Church, all those who are called to follow Christ, both Jew and Gentile alike, are now the royal priesthood, a holy nation.

But that's not all. God made New Covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Jacob and Scripture CANNOT BE BROKEN by Gentiles that want to elbow their way into the Hebrew covenants. It is unbiblical and it's called inheritance theft, like being a tomb raider.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour [member of another tribe], and every man his brother [member of the same tribe], saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jer. 31:31–34.

There are no Gentiles in any of these Hebrew Covenants. NONE.

In those texts, you are correct, there is no mention of the Gentiles, although you add to Scripture by defining "neighbor" as a member of another tribe, and "brother" as a member of the same tribe.
But there are other Scriptures that do include the Gentiles in the New Covenant. Eph 3:1-7, "For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles— 2 if indeed you have heard of the administration of God’s grace which was given to me for you; 3 that by revelation there was made known to me the mystery, as I wrote before briefly. 4 By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which in other generations was not made known to mankind, as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit; 6 to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel, 7 of which I was made a minister, according to the gift of God’s grace which was given to me according to the working of His power."
This cannot be debated or contradicted, and it does not "BREAK" the Scriptures for it IS Scripture.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I am not debating that the Old Covenant was made with the nation of Israel. And I am not debating that the New Covenant was made FIRST with the children of Israel. But what Scripture says is that the Gentiles are grafted in as equals, and made co-heir with Christ.

Scripture please.

Peter wrote to all those who were called to follow Jesus:
1 Pet 1:1-2 - "Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who reside as strangers, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you."
And in chapter 2:9-10, "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy."
The Church, all those who are called to follow Christ, both Jew and Gentile alike, are now the royal priesthood, a holy nation.

The terms were written of the children of Israel so stop stealing someone else's inheritance.

5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Ex 19:4–6.

In those texts, you are correct, there is no mention of the Gentiles, although you add to Scripture by defining "neighbor" as a member of another tribe, and "brother" as a member of the same tribe.

There were twelve tribes. Over 3 million Hebrews/Jews in the desert.
God situated the tribes around the Tabernacle: three tribes to the south, three tribes to the west, three tribes to the east, and three tribes to the north. So, yes, to be in one tribe among others in that tribe are brothers. To be living next to the other tribes is a neighbor. That is the original context that God is addressing. He is addressing brethren of one tribe and neighbors living next to them of another tribe:


See that. Neighbors.

But there are other Scriptures that do include the Gentiles in the New Covenant. Eph 3:1-7, "For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles— 2 if indeed you have heard of the administration of God’s grace which was given to me for you; 3 that by revelation there was made known to me the mystery, as I wrote before briefly. 4 By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which in other generations was not made known to mankind, as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit; 6 to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel, 7 of which I was made a minister, according to the gift of God’s grace which was given to me according to the working of His power."
This cannot be debated or contradicted, and it does not "BREAK" the Scriptures for it IS Scripture.

The body of Christ is NOT Israel Olive Tree,

that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel,

Saul is talking about Gentile proselytes and God-Fearers being in the BODY OF CHRIST NOT the Hebrew Covenants for rabbi Saul knew the covenants were with the Hebrew people and NOT with Gentiles.
What you're trying to do is called inheritance theft. God says thou shalt not steal but you ignore Him.
That's called disobedience. And it is a sin.
Sinner.

 

[Studyman]

Two questions and their accompanying answers.

Question #1: Did the high priest ever leave Israel and go to Gentiles and offer sacrifices for them?

Strangers were to come to God through Israel.

Ex. 12: 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

The Priest of God was not to be a respecter of persons.

Lev. 19: 33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you "as one born among you", and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Both Homeborn and Strangers were to come to God through His Priest. Partake of the Passover, and follow God out of Sin. (Egypt) God chose Israel to place His Name, "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws".

Is. 56: 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; 7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Even today, we are told to "Turn to God". The Jesus "of the Bible", God's High Priest, said to "Come to Him", to "Follow Him". Did Jesus, God's High Priest, leave Israel and go to the Gentiles and offer Sacrifices for them? No! The Gospel of Christ has always been that men should turn to Him. Even Israel cried out to Him from Egypt.

Ex. 2: 23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage. 24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. 25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

And lastly, Jesus Himself said "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

So it is not God's Way to chase people, rather, He is there for those who SEEK Him.

Answer #1: NO.

Correct.

Question #2: As High Priest did Jesus change the Law and offer sacrifice of Himself for Gentiles?

There is NO Jew of Gentile with the Christ "of the Bible". He is no respecter of persons. He said, "Salvation is of the Jews" and we know God chose to give them His Oracles because of the Promises HE gave to Abraham. The only thang that changed in the New Covenant, as Prophesied, were.

#1. The manner in which God's Law was administered.

#2. The manner in which sins were forgiven.

Had these 2 things not changed, the Law would not have been fulfilled by the Christ.

Answer #2: NO.

Very simple.

Again, that is correct. Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not destroy or change it.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Strangers were to come to God through Israel.

Ex. 12: 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

The Priest of God was not to be a respecter of persons.

God is the respecter of persons.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.
Ex 2:24–25.

And to those that are not the children of Israel (stranger, foreigner, Gentile nations) God thinks them as nothing.

17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

Lev. 19: 33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you "as one born among you", and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Both Homeborn and Strangers were to come to God through His Priest. Partake of the Passover, and follow God out of Sin. (Egypt) God chose Israel to place His Name, "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws".

They may enjoy the blessings of Abraham but NOT the covenant for the covenant is with Abram the Hebrew and his seed and Gentiles/nations are not his seed and are nothing to the LORD God. Keep this in mind when you read Jesus' own words that He was prophesied and sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. And Jesus in keeping with the Law died and resurrected for the lost sheep of the House of Israel ONLY.
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles. And Gentiles are also identified as "the world" in John 17. And since Jesus as High Priest does not pray for the world (Jn. 17:9), the world is without a prayer. They are NOT sanctified. They are unatoned.

Is. 56: 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; 7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

A prophecy to be fulfilled during the Millennium:

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations
Which came against Jerusalem
Shall even go up from year to year
To worship the King, the LORD of hosts,
And to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zech. 14:16.

No Gentiles/nations have ever gone up to the holy mountain in the history of man. But there will be a third Jewish Temple and there will be a restoration of sacrifices in Israel, and it is here that Israel shall be a light to the Gentiles.

Even today, we are told to "Turn to God". The Jesus "of the Bible", God's High Priest, said to "Come to Him", to "Follow Him". Did Jesus, God's High Priest, leave Israel and go to the Gentiles and offer Sacrifices for them? No! The Gospel of Christ has always been that men should turn to Him. Even Israel cried out to Him from Egypt.

The command might be given but no man responds unless first their names are in the book of life of the lamb slain from [before] the foundation (creation) of the world and that God draws them and the Holy Spirit performs His Ministry upon them which is to apply the salvation bought by the Son upon them.

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Rom. 3:10–12.

Ex. 2: 23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage. 24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. 25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

And lastly, Jesus Himself said "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
So it is not God's Way to chase people, rather, He is there for those who SEEK Him.

As Scripture declares rightly no man seeks God:

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Rom. 3:10.

None means none. Scripture cannot be broken. It is not as clear cut as you think.

Correct.
There is NO Jew of Gentile with the Christ "of the Bible". He is no respecter of persons. He said, "Salvation is of the Jews" and we know God chose to give them His Oracles because of the Promises HE gave to Abraham. The only thang that changed in the New Covenant, as Prophesied, were.
#1. The manner in which God's Law was administered.
#2. The manner in which sins were forgiven.
Had these 2 things not changed, the Law would not have been fulfilled by the Christ.

Nothing has changed where the Law is concerned. And the New Covenant was instituted as per the Law/command of God and prophecy that Israel's Messiah would die for His people.

God IS a respecter of persons.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel 9the person) and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain (the person) and to his offering he had not respect.
Gen. 4:3–5.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.
Ex 2:24–25.

The New Covenant is the Old Covenant, and they are the commands of God and His Christ:

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Jn 14:15.

The Law is spiritual (Rom. 7:14.)
The Law is type and shadow of the Holy Spirit. It is HE whom the Lord promised to put in the inward parts of the children of Israel:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
Jer. 31:33.

This is a promise made to the House of Israel and Judah. The Mosaic Law is fulfilled in Christ and Christ is the kingdom of God that does not come with observation but is within. In this condition God now leads and instructs His covenant people from within instead of from without written on stone.

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Mt 1:21.

This is unmistakable. There is no ambiguity.

Again, that is correct. Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not destroy or change it.

You are not far from the kingdom of God.

 

[Doug Brents]

Scripture please.

Rom 8:12-17 - Please note that "brothers and sisters" in verse 12 is not directed only at the Jews, but at all who are called in Christ, Paul being the Apostle to the Gentiles (Rom 11:13), and the letter of Romans was directed to all who are called as saints in Rome (Rom 1:7).
Rom 11:17-24

The terms were written of the children of Israel so stop stealing someone else's inheritance.

The Gentiles are not, and CANNOT, steal an inheritance from the Jews. GOD has given the inheritance where He wills, and there is nothing any man can do to force God's hand. He said that those who exhibit faith in His Son, Jesus, will become an heir to Abraham, and be equal in the inheritance with Jesus.

5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Ex 19:4–6.

But the Jews did not keep His Covenant, nor did they remain exclusively His peculiar treasure. The Jews who do not believe in Jesus are cut off from the root of Abraham, and the Gentiles who do believe in Jesus are grafted in. And so all who believe in Jesus are not the peculiar nation, the royal priesthood (1 Pet 2:4-12). Please note here that this cannot be talking about just the Jews, because he is talking to a people who were not formerly a nation (the Jews have been a nation since Jacob), and he is talking to people who formerly had not received mercy (the Jews have had mercy since Abraham).

There were twelve tribes. Over 3 million Hebrews/Jews in the desert.
God situated the tribes around the Tabernacle: three tribes to the south, three tribes to the west, three tribes to the east, and three tribes to the north. So, yes, to be in one tribe among others in that tribe are brothers. To be living next to the other tribes is a neighbor. That is the original context that God is addressing. He is addressing brethren of one tribe and neighbors living next to them of another tribe:

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See that. Neighbors.

I do indeed see what you are saying, but the context of these passages is so much larger than you can see. It is not just the nation of Israel and the biological descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The reference is to the world at large.

The body of Christ is NOT Israel Olive Tree,

that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel,

Saul is talking about Gentile proselytes and God-Fearers being in the BODY OF CHRIST NOT the Hebrew Covenants for rabbi Saul knew the covenants were with the Hebrew people and NOT with Gentiles.
What you're trying to do is called inheritance theft. God says thou shalt not steal but you ignore Him.
That's called disobedience. And it is a sin.
Sinner.

Yes, I am a sinner. But I have been washed, I have been cleansed, I have been sanctified by the Blood of Jesus, just as have all who believe and obey Jesus as their Lord.

Saul/Paul is not talking about proselytes. He makes that clear when he tells us that the Gentile converts do not need to be circumcised to be in Christ (Gal 2:1-10, Acts 15:1-35). He restates this in Gal 5:1-6, where he tells us that if anyone has himself circumcised as a part of keeping the Old Covenant Law (as a proselyte was required to do) then the grace of Jesus is useless to him and he must keep the Old Law perfectly in order to be saved.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Rom 8:12-17 - Please note that "brothers and sisters" in verse 12 is not directed only at the Jews, but at all who are called in Christ, Paul being the Apostle to the Gentiles (Rom 11:13), and the letter of Romans was directed to all who are called as saints in Rome (Rom 1:7).
Rom 11:17-24

The Gentiles are not, and CANNOT, steal an inheritance from the Jews. GOD has given the inheritance where He wills, and there is nothing any man can do to force God's hand. He said that those who exhibit faith in His Son, Jesus, will become an heir to Abraham, and be equal in the inheritance with Jesus.

Disagree. Inheritance theft is being committed and has been committed in the past by Gentiles, mostly occurring after the destruction of Israel and her Temple after/about A.D. 70.
And all the letters in the NT were written by Jewish Christians to other Jewish Christians at the various locations these writing were addressed to, except Saul's two personal letters to Timothy.
And let's not forget the Gentile proselytes and God-Fearers. They were the first to hear the good news and the first to be saved. Don't always see the word "Gentiles" and mistake them for hard-core, uncircumcised, non-covenant Roman, Scythian, Greek, or Barbarian Gentiles. These were not always them but those Gentiles that were closest to the Jews and already receiving blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant by being allied with Israel and committed themselves and their families to obedience to God's Torah.

But the Jews did not keep His Covenant, nor did they remain exclusively His peculiar treasure. The Jews who do not believe in Jesus are cut off from the root of Abraham, and the Gentiles who do believe in Jesus are grafted in. And so all who believe in Jesus are not the peculiar nation, the royal priesthood (1 Pet 2:4-12). Please note here that this cannot be talking about just the Jews, because he is talking to a people who were not formerly a nation (the Jews have been a nation since Jacob), and he is talking to people who formerly had not received mercy (the Jews have had mercy since Abraham).

There is no "cutting off." God made marital covenant with His Bride Israel and does not break His promises. She will and has forsaken and even was unfaithful to her husband (God), but the focus is on God, not man, in those He saves. The purpose and fulfillment of the covenants was done by Jesus Christ and Israel is the Bride that will be washed by the water of the Word and restored to relationship with God.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:24–27.

THIS is what Saul communicated to the Jewish Christians for he knew that Christianity was only Completed Judaism.

I do indeed see what you are saying, but the context of these passages is so much larger than you can see. It is not just the nation of Israel and the biological descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The reference is to the world at large.

No, the covenant was with Abraham and his seed, and his seed are the people identified as the children of Israel and Israel was covenanted with God through Moses. I find God has made NO COVENANT with Gentiles in the Hebrew Scriptures of Law, Psalms, and Prophets. Salvation is of the Jews not the Gentiles. And all the writings from Genesis to Revelation has the Jews as the focal point in the salvation that is of the LORD, not Gentiles. There may be discussion of Gentiles in the NT writings but overall, the writings concerned Israel and God's covenant with THEM.

Yes, I am a sinner. But I have been washed, I have been cleansed, I have been sanctified by the Blood of Jesus, just as have all who believe and obey Jesus as their Lord.

You might think yourself Gentile but since God has made no covenant with Gentiles there just might be Jewish blood in your veins and Abraham's DNA in you. There have been several scatterings and exiles by God of His people and because God keeps His promises and you are saved, there just might be Abraham's DNA in your family line. That's the only reasonable explanation for "Gentile" salvations.

Saul/Paul is not talking about proselytes. He makes that clear when he tells us that the Gentile converts do not need to be circumcised to be in Christ (Gal 2:1-10, Acts 15:1-35). He restates this in Gal 5:1-6, where he tells us that if anyone has himself circumcised as a part of keeping the Old Covenant Law (as a proselyte was required to do) then the grace of Jesus is useless to him and he must keep the Old Law perfectly in order to be saved.

Jesus said, "If you love me obey my Torah/commandments."

Every jot and tittle have not been fulfilled as there are still many aspects of covenant and prophecy that still need to be fulfilled in His Torah and until then, His Torah remains. It is eternal. It is also the Torah by which all men will be judged. So, don't believe the lie God's Torah has been "abolished" or made "obsolete." That is a great delusion among Gentile beliefs. Don't be deceived.

The context of Saul's words about grace and Law has to do with being saved by the Law which is what it cannot do. But once saved God's Torah is an indispensable factor in living according to His Law/Torah. And because a person becomes saved then it is God's Torah that He obeys and lives under in order to please God. It is instructional towards daily living as Saul said:

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Tim. 3:16–17.

Without the Scripture (Law, Psalms, Prophets) it is impossible to please God after salvation. It is after salvation that God's Torah becomes the basis of our moving about and having our being. Don't be deceived.

 

[Doug Brents]

Disagree. Inheritance theft is being committed and has been committed in the past by Gentiles, mostly occurring after the destruction of Israel and her Temple after/about A.D. 70.
And all the letters in the NT were written by Jewish Christians to other Jewish Christians at the various locations these writing were addressed to, except Saul's two personal letters to Timothy.
And let's not forget the Gentile proselytes and God-Fearers. They were the first to hear the good news and the first to be saved. Don't always see the word "Gentiles" and mistake them for hard-core, uncircumcised, non-covenant Roman, Scythian, Greek, or Barbarian Gentiles. These were not always them but those Gentiles that were closest to the Jews and already receiving blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant by being allied with Israel and committed themselves and their families to obedience to God's Torah.

There is no "cutting off." God made marital covenant with His Bride Israel and does not break His promises. She will and has forsaken and even was unfaithful to her husband (God), but the focus is on God, not man, in those He saves. The purpose and fulfillment of the covenants was done by Jesus Christ and Israel is the Bride that will be washed by the water of the Word and restored to relationship with God.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:24–27.

THIS is what Saul communicated to the Jewish Christians for he knew that Christianity was only Completed Judaism.

No, the covenant was with Abraham and his seed, and his seed are the people identified as the children of Israel and Israel was covenanted with God through Moses. I find God has made NO COVENANT with Gentiles in the Hebrew Scriptures of Law, Psalms, and Prophets. Salvation is of the Jews not the Gentiles. And all the writings from Genesis to Revelation has the Jews as the focal point in the salvation that is of the LORD, not Gentiles. There may be discussion of Gentiles in the NT writings but overall, the writings concerned Israel and God's covenant with THEM.

You might think yourself Gentile but since God has made no covenant with Gentiles there just might be Jewish blood in your veins and Abraham's DNA in you. There have been several scatterings and exiles by God of His people and because God keeps His promises and you are saved, there just might be Abraham's DNA in your family line. That's the only reasonable explanation for "Gentile" salvations.

Jesus said, "If you love me obey my Torah/commandments."

Every jot and tittle have not been fulfilled as there are still many aspects of covenant and prophecy that still need to be fulfilled in His Torah and until then, His Torah remains. It is eternal. It is also the Torah by which all men will be judged. So, don't believe the lie God's Torah has been "abolished" or made "obsolete." That is a great delusion among Gentile beliefs. Don't be deceived.

The context of Saul's words about grace and Law has to do with being saved by the Law which is what it cannot do. But once saved God's Torah is an indispensable factor in living according to His Law/Torah. And because a person becomes saved then it is God's Torah that He obeys and lives under in order to please God. It is instructional towards daily living as Saul said:

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Tim. 3:16–17.

Without the Scripture (Law, Psalms, Prophets) it is impossible to please God after salvation. It is after salvation that God's Torah becomes the basis of our moving about and having our being. Don't be deceived.

It is obvious that you do not accept the NT as Scripture. If you did, then you would accept Paul's many statements that he was writing to Gentiles, not proselytes, but to Gentiles who did not know the Law, or have any relation to the Jews. He spoke on Mars Hill in Athens to people who didn't even know God, let alone worship Him alone.

The Law, Prophets, and Writings are not the ONLY Scriptures. As has been expounded to you before, Peter accepted Paul's writings as Scripture even during Paul's lifetime. Peter's writings were accepted as Scripture during his lifetime. And the Gospels were cited and quoted as Scripture within the first Century. It is not by the Torah that we will be judged, but by the Scripture under which we live (for you and me, the New Covenant Scriptures).

No, Abraham's DNA in my family line is not the "only reasonable explanation for Gentile" salvations". God has decreed that genetics has nothing to do with salvation in Christ. In Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile, slave nor free, etc. All are one in Christ.

 

[jeremiah1five]

It is obvious that you do not accept the NT as Scripture. If you did, then you would accept Paul's many statements that he was writing to Gentiles, not proselytes, but to Gentiles who did not know the Law, or have any relation to the Jews. He spoke on Mars Hill in Athens to people who didn't even know God, let alone worship Him alone.

No, Saul wrote to Jewish Christians. He may have written about all three groups of Gentiles in his letters, but all the documents of the New Covenant writings were written to the Jews or Jewish Christians except the two personal letters to Timothy.

The Law, Prophets, and Writings are not the ONLY Scriptures. As has been expounded to you before, Peter accepted Paul's writings as Scripture even during Paul's lifetime.

The word "scripture" mentioned by Peter identified "writings" nothing more.

Peter's writings were accepted as Scripture during his lifetime. And the Gospels were cited and quoted as Scripture within the first Century. It is not by the Torah that we will be judged, but by the Scripture under which we live (for you and me, the New Covenant Scriptures).

First, Gentiles were never given God's Torah to live by.
Second, Jesus was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the House of Israel not Gentiles.
And third, the oracles of God were committed to the Hebrews/Jews, not Gentiles son you, as Gentile, are out of the equation. To concern yourself with the Hebrew Scripture being a Gentile is like a father of one family leaving a last will and testament and another person from another family in the next city coming in to tell the inheritors of that will what they can and cannot do with something that didn't concern them. And it also interferes with the father's will by trying to interpret to the inheritors what the father said or meant in his will.

No, Abraham's DNA in my family line is not the "only reasonable explanation for Gentile" salvations". God has decreed that genetics has nothing to do with salvation in Christ. In Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile, slave nor free, etc. All are one in Christ.

All three covenants (Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New) are covenants God made with the Hebrew people through Abram the Hebrew and his seed/descendants. There are no Gentiles (non-Hebrew) in any of the three salvation covenants.

 

[Studyman]

God is the respecter of persons.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.
Ex 2:24–25.

23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage. 24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. 25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

I appreciate your post, but I am surprised you are preaching that God is a respecter of persons, when the Scriptures teach over and over that HE is not. Consider Sodom, regardless of their DNA, if just one person would have "cried unto God", would God not have had compassion unto them? When God told Abraham to leave his old life and follow God, Lot came with him. Would God have denied anyone who wanted to leave their old life and follow God?

Even Jesus brings question to this popular religious philosophy you are promoting.

Luke 4: 25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.

27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.

There is no evidence in any of the Scriptures that anyone who cried unto God from their heart in belief, either a stranger or homeborn, was rejected by God because of the DNA they were born with.

And to those that are not the children of Israel (stranger, foreigner, Gentile nations) God thinks them as nothing.

17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

They may enjoy the blessings of Abraham but NOT the covenant for the covenant is with Abram the Hebrew and his seed and Gentiles/nations are not his seed and are nothing to the LORD God. Keep this in mind when you read Jesus' own words that He was prophesied and sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

Ex. 12: 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be "as one that is born in the land": for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

This Stranger, this "Gentile" that enters the Covenant of Abraham, becomes a sheep of the house of Israel. He shall become a child of Abraham.

49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Why is this J5? Because God is NOT a respecter of persons, as it is written. And shall Judge "EVERY MAN", not by the DNA he was born with, but by his Works. I would post the Scriptures, but I know you already know them.

The God "of Abraham" enshrined into His very Law, that anyone who turns to "Him", shall be considered HIS sheep, just as Abraham was considered His Sheep.

Lev. 19: 33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you "as one born among you", and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

So from the very beginning, it was never the DNA of a man that made him an Israelite. I was his works, who he "Yielded himself a Servant to Obey" as Paul teaches.

And Jesus in keeping with the Law died and resurrected for the lost sheep of the House of Israel ONLY.
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles.

But J5, Israel had become Gentiles in Egypt. "for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt". Abraham and his father were Gentiles when God spoke to Abraham and called him to leave his old life and follow Him.

God has His Covenant and "the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant" is no longer a Gentile but considered the same as the Homeborn. (Is. 56:1-7) A New Man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. (Eph. 4:23,24)

Even the Gentile woman whose child was Saved by God, it was her "work" of Faith, being circumcised of the heart, and belief in the Passover Lamb that showed Jesus she was no longer a gentile. And Jesus didn't Vex her but granted her the SAME Mercy "as one that is born in the land".

Respectfully, because of these Scriptures and many more, I disagree with your religious philosophy that God is a respecter of persons.

 

[Doug Brents]

No, Saul wrote to Jewish Christians. He may have written about all three groups of Gentiles in his letters, but all the documents of the New Covenant writings were written to the Jews or Jewish Christians except the two personal letters to Timothy.

Not true at all.
Rom 1:1, 7 - "Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,
7 to all who are beloved of God in Rome, called as saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."
1 Cor 1:1-2 - "Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,
2 To the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:"
2 Cor 1:1 - "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Timothy,
To the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout Achaia"
Gal 1:1-2 - "Paul, an apostle (not sent from men nor through human agency, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead), 2 and all the brothers who are with me, To the churches of Galatia"
Eph 1:1 - "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God,
To the saints who are at Ephesus and are faithful in Christ Jesus"
Phil 1:1 - "Paul and Timothy, bond-servants of Christ Jesus,
To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi"
Col 1:1-2 - "Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,
2 To the saints and faithful brothers and sisters in Christ who are at Colossae"
1 Thes 1:1 - "Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,
To the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"
2 Thes 1:1 - "Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,
To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ"
Titus 1:1, 4 - "Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ,
4 To Titus, my true son in a common faith"
Phil 1:1 - "Paul, a prisoner of Christ Jesus, and Timothy our brother,
To Philemon our beloved brother and fellow worker"

Please note: Church (from the Greek ecclesia, meaning called out) includes both the Jewish people who are called out of the nation of Israel to Christ, and the Gentiles who are called out of the rest of the "Nations" to be part of the Lord's Church (Gal 3:28-29, Eph 2:11-22, Rom 9:24-26).
Also of note: Titus was an uncircumcised Gentile (not a proselyte). Philemon was also most likely a Gentile, though we do not know for sure.

The word "scripture" mentioned by Peter identified "writings" nothing more.

Nothing more? But is not all "Scripture" given by inspiration from God? Is not all Scripture completely without error? Is not all Scripture God's Word to us? Then if Peter says that Paul's writings are Scripture, then they are completely without error or mistake, and God's Word to us.

First, Gentiles were never given God's Torah to live by.

True, but irrelevant. The Gentiles have now been given the New Covenant/New Testament Scriptures, and the Old writings to learn from.

Second, Jesus was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the House of Israel not Gentiles.

And He sent His followers to only the lost sheep of Israel at first. But then, when they had their chance and rejected Jesus as Lord, Jesus sent His followers to preach to, and bring into the Covenant and House of Israel, the Gentiles who would believe in Jesus.

And third, the oracles of God were committed to the Hebrews/Jews, not Gentiles son you, as Gentile, are out of the equation. To concern yourself with the Hebrew Scripture being a Gentile is like a father of one family leaving a last will and testament and another person from another family in the next city coming in to tell the inheritors of that will what they can and cannot do with something that didn't concern them. And it also interferes with the father's will by trying to interpret to the inheritors what the father said or meant in his will.

This would be entirely correct, IF the Father had not, in His will, included the family in the next city in the Will and saying that if the "natural" children did not obey the Will, then the family in the next city would also receive the inheritance.

All three covenants (Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New) are covenants God made with the Hebrew people through Abram the Hebrew and his seed/descendants. There are no Gentiles (non-Hebrew) in any of the three salvation covenants.

With the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants (which are one covenant, not two) you are mostly correct (Gentiles could be included in the covenant if they proselytized into Israel (Rahab, Ruth, etc.)). But with the New Covenant you are completely incorrect as noted above. Gal 3:28-29, Eph 2:11-22, and Rom 9:24-26 are very explicit that the Gentiles are included in the New Covenant and are called into the Church just as the Jews who believe in Jesus.

 

[jeremiah1five]

23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage. 24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. 25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

I appreciate your post, but I am surprised you are preaching that God is a respecter of persons, when the Scriptures teach over and over that HE is not.

I am surprised I've proven it from Scripture that God is a respecter of persons and read it and continue to contradict the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel (the person) and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain (the person) and to his offering he had not respect.
Gen. 4:4–5.

And here:

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Ex 2:24–25.

Don't you believe the Bible is the Word of God and that God doesn't lie? Why do you contradict Him?

Consider Sodom, regardless of their DNA, if just one person would have "cried unto God", would God not have had compassion unto them?

No. God has no respect for Gentiles. They are nothing to Him and the Scripture cannot be broken.

17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

That is why God has no covenant with Gentiles. He even commanded the children of Israel TO NOT even make covenant with them.

32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. Ex 23:31–32.

But sin is sin and Israel disobeyed God.

When God told Abraham to leave his old life and follow God, Lot came with him. Would God have denied anyone who wanted to leave their old life and follow God?

Abram was already a follower of God. His family line was obedient to God and became the family line that Jesus would be born from. He came from a people that were in relationship with God beginning with Seth and to Enos for the term "call upon the LORD" is a term that describes 'worship' and no man can approach unto God to worship Him unless God grants permission. But Abram the Hebrew was NOT always obedient to God. God commanded him to separate himself from his father's house and leave them behind while the LORD show Abram a place He desired to take him. Lot and Abram's father went with him. He didn't obey God. And for a while he stayed in Haran until pops died and then he went forward to a place the LORD finally led him to: Canaan.
Abram knew the goings-on in Sodom and Gomorrah and the thing about finding five righteous men there was not a sincere exchange with God. Abram knew there were no righteous people in those twin cities. So, no, no one would repent and no need for God's denying them. He denied them ALL.

Even Jesus brings question to this popular religious philosophy you are promoting.

Luke 4: 25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.

27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.

There is no evidence in any of the Scriptures that anyone who cried unto God from their heart in belief, either a stranger or homeborn, was rejected by God because of the DNA they were born with.

Your understanding of God's salvation lacks truth. The only people who would cry out to God and God would hear are those He made covenant with. The nations (non-Hebrew) are nothing to God:

17 All nations before him are as nothing; And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity. Isaiah 40:17.

If you're going to be Christian, you'll need to take Scripture as written and not reject it. God has no covenant with Gentiles and that is on purpose. He has no respect for the uncircumcised nations that hate Him and Israel.

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Ex 2:24–25.

If God had respect for Gentiles, he would include them in the Jewish Covenants, but He didn't because the Gentile nations are nothing to him. Factor that into your understanding of the bible.

Ex. 12: 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be "as one that is born in the land": for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

This Stranger, this "Gentile" that enters the Covenant of Abraham, becomes a sheep of the house of Israel. He shall become a child of Abraham.

It doesn't say anything about 'entering into covenant' with God. The Scripture is clear and Scripture cannot be broken. God has covenant with Abram the Hebrew and his seed and Gentiles do not come from his seed.

49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Why is this J5? Because God is NOT a respecter of persons, as it is written. And shall Judge "EVERY MAN", not by the DNA he was born with, but by his Works. I would post the Scriptures, but I know you already know them.

The God "of Abraham" enshrined into His very Law, that anyone who turns to "Him", shall be considered HIS sheep, just as Abraham was considered His Sheep.

Anyone who is sheep would be the House of Israel. God does not call Gentiles 'sheep' anywhere in the bible.

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mt 15:23–24.

The only sheep in the bible is Israel and the only Shepherd of that sheepfold is God.

Lev. 19: 33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you "as one born among you", and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

So from the very beginning, it was never the DNA of a man that made him an Israelite. I was his works, who he "Yielded himself a Servant to Obey" as Paul teaches.

Gentiles were created as a by-product of God's covenant with Abraham and the circumcision God commanded. Gentiles became separated from the Hebrews by virtue of those two things and then the Gentile race was defined as opposed to the Hebrew race founded upon Abraham. So, if anyone tells you "Oh, there's the white race, or the black race, or the yellow or brown race he's lying to you. There are only two races in humanity: Jew and Gentile. Don't let the devil lie to you.

But J5, Israel had become Gentiles in Egypt. "for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt". Abraham and his father were Gentiles when God spoke to Abraham and called him to leave his old life and follow Him.

God has His Covenant and "the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant" is no longer a Gentile but considered the same as the Homeborn. (Is. 56:1-7) A New Man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. (Eph. 4:23,24)

These Scriptures do not speak of covenant. God's Word is clear. the covenants are with Abram the Hebrew and his seed. Then the Mosaic Covenant is with the children of Israel. The New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34 is with the House of Israel. There are no Gentiles in the Jewish covenants.

Even the Gentile woman whose child was Saved by God, it was her "work" of Faith, being circumcised of the heart, and belief in the Passover Lamb that showed Jesus she was no longer a gentile. And Jesus didn't Vex her but granted her the SAME Mercy "as one that is born in the land".

Respectfully, because of these Scriptures and many more, I disagree with your religious philosophy that God is a respecter of persons.

God IS a respecter of persons for He says so very clearly. The question now is will you accept God's Word or continue to reject it for your own pet theories:

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel (the PERSON) and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain (the PERSON) and to his offering he had not respect.
Gen. 4:3–5.

And for good measure here another to support the first:

25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Ex 2:24–25.

You strike me as a young believer. It's taken me much suffering and grief to learn the Scripture as I do. I can tell you're a youngster or if you tell me a number over ten I'd ask: still drinking milk?