David "numbered" the people

[TomL]

Exactly.

And then they complain when others hold their theology makes robots or puppets of man

 

[civic]

And then they complain when others hold their theology makes robots or puppets of man

Just like puppets and robots they have no volition or free will. They are preprogrammed as MacArthur teaches.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Where is efficient cause in Acts 4?

Dictionaries will help you. Acts 4 will not.

Bump for @Presby02

 

[praise_yeshua]

Need permission to "touch him". When are you going to stop being so sloppy......Satan lives in half truths and sloppy methods.

Job 1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

God protected what Job had. Satan has long tempted men.

Bump for @Presby02

 

[praise_yeshua]

Can you read 1Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

2 Samuel 24:1 was added by an enemy of God and you believe it. There are Greek OT manuscripts that agree between 1 Ch 21:1 and 2 Samuel 24:1.

Not that you know this. You obviously don't. So much for your vast knowledge.

You're equating God and Satan. God must really like this.... right?

Bump for @Presby02

Notice again the appeal to Satan as God.....

 

[TomL]

Bump for @Presby02

Notice again the appeal to Satan as God.....

It looks like Presby02 has been bumped

 

[civic]

Bump for @Presby02

Notice again the appeal to Satan as God.....

Yes woe to those who call evil good abd good evil

 

[Presby02]

It looks like Presby02 has been bumped

Looks like you can't see well.

 

[TomL]

Looks like you can't see well.

Looks like you cannot read

praise_yeshua said:
Bump for @Presby02

 

[praise_yeshua]

Looks like you can't see well.

Ask your friend @The Rogue Tomato about "thread bumping".....

You would think that a person such as yourself would have extensive experience with debating theology in internet forums

 

[civic]

Gill said it was Satan.

In like manner, Adam Clarke comments

He moved David against them - God could not be angry with David for numbering the people if he moved him to do it; but in the parallel place (1Ch_21:1) it is expressly said, Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Amen

 

[civic]

Who incited David to number Israel in 2 Samuel 24?

Added by a enemy? LOL Who? Tin foul hat time?

Barnes the Calvinist
"stood up against Israel and moved David," just as 1 Kings 11:14, 1 Kings 11:23, 1 Kings 11:25 first Hadad, and then Rezon, is said to have been "an adversary" (Satan) to Solomon and to Israel. Hence, our text should be rendered, "For one moved David against them." We are not told whose advice it was, but some one, who proved himself an enemy to the best interests of David and Israel, urged the king to number the people.

JFB commentary
But it expressly states that they were all overruled by the inflexible resolution of the king.David, tempted by Satan, forceth Joab to number the people; who are thirteen hundred thousand fighting men, 2 Samuel 24:1-9. David acknowledgeth his sin in it: having three judgments propounded by God, he is in great distress, and chooseth the pestilence; of which seventy thousand men die, 2 Samuel 24:10-15. David by his humiliation preventeth the destruction of Jerusalem, 2 Samuel 24:16,17. He by Gad’s direction and order from God purchaseth Araunah’s threshing-floor to build an altar there; on which having sacrificed, the plague stayeth, 2 Samuel 24:18-25.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And the Lord caused his anger to burn forth again in Israel, and Satan stirred up David against them, saying, Go, number Israel and Juda

Young's Literal Translation
And the anger of Jehovah addeth to burn against Israel, and an adversary moveth David about them, saying, 'Go, number Israel and Judah.'

Literal Standard Version
And the anger of YHWH adds to burn against Israel, and [an adversary] moves David about them, saying, “Go, number Israel and Judah.”

 

[praise_yeshua]

Looks like you cannot read

praise_yeshua said:
Bump for @Presby02

More evidence "he" is nothing more than a troll.

 

[TomL]

More evidence "he" is nothing more than a troll.

It's difficult to see why he would take umbrage against such an obvious fact

 

[Presby02]

Ask your friend @The Rogue Tomato about "thread bumping".....

You would think that a person such as yourself would have extensive experience with debating theology in internet forums

And you apparently don't. Or your horrible at it. I vote for horrible