Amen. So true.
Can People Get Saved After the Rapture?
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Amen. So true.
Tothalordbeallglory
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The call is now being made not just for this so called social justice
but now the King of AI , he who loveth artificial intellegence
has said What i long knew was coming .
Ecological justice , aka THE CLIMATE nonsense .
I tried to warn us a global false love religoin was being created
that would tie all religoins together for a common purpose
and that purpose would be to serve the agenda of sie one world order .
THEY aint even hiding it david . THE WORLD IS RIPE for ANTI CHRIST
and many have zero idea they were long prepared for this hour by false sensual men who fleeced their flocks .
Tothalordbeallglory
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Whose deadly wound was healed . But whose deadly wound does that speak of my friend .
Tis why the same ones were crying aloud
SEND US FIRE FROM HEAVEN , beleiving for miracles signs and wonders .
NOW Who shall send fire from heaven and by the means of those miracles DECIEVE MANY .
THIS WORLD IS RIPE with inquity
And now a word of reminder .
AND IN the latter times of their kingdoms when , WHEN , the TRANSGRESSORS have COME TO THE FULL
a dark king shall stand .
WHO by PEACE i might add destroys many .
THese interfaithers sensual lovers have zero idea what spirit they are of
and that satan has led them all captive to a lie .
Tothalordbeallglory
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These interfaithers finding common ground
have zero discernment
as they now have a common goal and holler we are ONE
the people is one
let us build our one world tower , our inclusive religoin that shall reach to heaven
as they beleive all religoins are ways to GOD .
THIS PEOPLE IS QUICKLY becoming ONE again david
and they have a nasty COMMON LANGUAGE that all do speak
ITS CALLED THE FALSE LOVE COMMON GROUND for UNITY and PEACE . its a dark spiritual love langauge .
Tothalordbeallglory
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I dare say MOST folks have ZERO idea what JESUS meant
about COUNT the COST .
This sheep has . I can see an army of false love building
and those who conform not WILL lose much and many their own lives .
TO which i say , SO BE IT , LET GOD BE GLORIFIED no matter the cost to me
FOR MY HOPE IS IN JESUS and HE has overcome the world
and in HIM i have all hope and a new HOME awaits me and all the sheep at the end of our faith .
Tothalordbeallglory
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and they loved not their lives in this world .
But many DO LOVE THIER LIFE IN THIS WORLD . a fatal and deadly mistake
which in the end will cost them THEIR LIFE .
HE who loses HIS life for my sake shall find it .
TIME to stand firm
Time to correct any and all error
To point ONLY to CHRIST
Time to prepare this people for what JESUS always warned us we would have in this world .
TRIBULATION folks . THIS world was never supposed to have loved us
FOR the world LOVES ONLY ITS OWN .
So much for the mindset that if the world somehow hates us WE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING WRONG and NOT LOVING .
Build this people up with sound biblical doctrine . FOR WHEN THE DOOR SHUTS
all outside shall wail .
AND IF the righteous judgment of GOD can allow sheep to suffer and die for HIS NAME SAKE
what on earth happens to those who denied HIM , though they seemed to have it far easire in this life.
But many DO LOVE THIER LIFE IN THIS WORLD . a fatal and deadly mistake
which in the end will cost them THEIR LIFE .
HE who loses HIS life for my sake shall find it .
TIME to stand firm
Time to correct any and all error
To point ONLY to CHRIST
Time to prepare this people for what JESUS always warned us we would have in this world .
TRIBULATION folks . THIS world was never supposed to have loved us
FOR the world LOVES ONLY ITS OWN .
So much for the mindset that if the world somehow hates us WE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING WRONG and NOT LOVING .
Build this people up with sound biblical doctrine . FOR WHEN THE DOOR SHUTS
all outside shall wail .
AND IF the righteous judgment of GOD can allow sheep to suffer and die for HIS NAME SAKE
what on earth happens to those who denied HIM , though they seemed to have it far easire in this life.
Tothalordbeallglory
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To the trenches david . The hour is late .
Manasseh
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They will not, only the unsaved will.
the warning "Don't get left-behind" is for the unsaved.
Duane
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Where does one find out what most folks know and don't know? Are you talking about some kind of code? I sure hope you don't think you have some sort of special revelation.
Like mysticism that involves the pursuit of a spiritual union with God, wherein a mystic seeks to attain a level of spiritual knowledge that transcends intellectual understanding.
DavidTree
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Amen
There is only one 'hiccup' in your post which is this:
The "restraint" upon satan will be taken out of the way BEFORE the 2nd Coming of Christ = Resurrection and rapture
This will usher in the "man of sin" and the Mark of the Beast which the Body of Christ/Church will face-off against.
Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first,
and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God = Matthew ch24 "AoD"
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
Pre-trib rapture is a lie for it never came out of the Mouth of God = Matthew 4:4 , Matthew 24:29-31 , 1 Thess & 2 Thess
Manasseh
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Pretribulationism is the truth. Scripturally, the pretribulational view has much to commend it. For example, the church is not appointed to wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:9-10, 5:9), and believers will not be overtaken by the Day of the Lord (1 Thessalonians 5:1-9). The church of Philadelphia was promised to be kept from “the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world” (Revelation 3:10). Note that the promise is not preservation through the trial but deliverance from the hour, that is, from the time period of the trial.
Pretribulationism is the only theory which clearly maintains the distinction between Israel and the church and God’s separate plans for each. The seventy “sevens” of Daniel 9:24 are decreed upon Daniel’s people (the Jews) and Daniel’s holy city (Jerusalem). This prophecy makes it plain that the seventieth week (the Tribulation) is a time of purging and restoration for Israel and Jerusalem, not for the church.
Also, pretribulationism has historical support. From John 21:22-23, it would seem that the early church viewed Christ’s return as imminent, that He could return at any moment. Otherwise, the rumor would not have persisted that Jesus would return within John’s lifetime. Imminence, which is incompatible with the other two Rapture theories, is a key tenet of pretribulationism.
And the pretribulational view seems to be the most in keeping with God’s character and His desire to deliver the righteous from the judgment of the world. Biblical examples of God’s salvation include Noah, who was delivered from the worldwide flood; Lot, who was delivered from Sodom; and Rahab, who was delivered from Jericho (2 Peter 2:6-9). Got?
Pretribulationism is the only theory which clearly maintains the distinction between Israel and the church and God’s separate plans for each. The seventy “sevens” of Daniel 9:24 are decreed upon Daniel’s people (the Jews) and Daniel’s holy city (Jerusalem). This prophecy makes it plain that the seventieth week (the Tribulation) is a time of purging and restoration for Israel and Jerusalem, not for the church.
Also, pretribulationism has historical support. From John 21:22-23, it would seem that the early church viewed Christ’s return as imminent, that He could return at any moment. Otherwise, the rumor would not have persisted that Jesus would return within John’s lifetime. Imminence, which is incompatible with the other two Rapture theories, is a key tenet of pretribulationism.
And the pretribulational view seems to be the most in keeping with God’s character and His desire to deliver the righteous from the judgment of the world. Biblical examples of God’s salvation include Noah, who was delivered from the worldwide flood; Lot, who was delivered from Sodom; and Rahab, who was delivered from Jericho (2 Peter 2:6-9). Got?
Julie
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We should not let differences of opinion on the timing of the church’s rapture distract us from Paul’s main point in the passage. The truths are meant to strengthen us in the face of death and encourage us when we mourn the loss of a loved one. We do well to keep in mind the following four vital principles:
First, “God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep” departed family members … friends … ancestors … heroes of old we’ve only read about. One glorious day, we’ll be part of a grand reunion—the gathering of the saints of every generation!
Second, all who are alive when Christ comes to raise the dead will also experience a sudden transformation from mortal bodies into immortal bodies without ever having to taste death. This means some of us alive today may never die—what a thrilling prospect! Yet Paul is quite clear that no one knows when this will happen; the day will come suddenly, like a thief so we cannot know whether we’ll receive our immortal bodies through resurrection after death or through transformation while still here.
Third, the wrath of coming judgment is for unbelievers. God has not destined us for wrath but for salvation through Jesus, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. God will never pour out His wrath on His people—He will either rescue them from wrath, as with Lot in Sodom or Noah in the flood, or He will protect them through the wrath, as with Israel in Egypt or Daniel amid the lions. Though the day of the Lord is coming, it’s not coming for anyone sealed by God’s Spirit.
First, “God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep” departed family members … friends … ancestors … heroes of old we’ve only read about. One glorious day, we’ll be part of a grand reunion—the gathering of the saints of every generation!
Second, all who are alive when Christ comes to raise the dead will also experience a sudden transformation from mortal bodies into immortal bodies without ever having to taste death. This means some of us alive today may never die—what a thrilling prospect! Yet Paul is quite clear that no one knows when this will happen; the day will come suddenly, like a thief so we cannot know whether we’ll receive our immortal bodies through resurrection after death or through transformation while still here.
Third, the wrath of coming judgment is for unbelievers. God has not destined us for wrath but for salvation through Jesus, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. God will never pour out His wrath on His people—He will either rescue them from wrath, as with Lot in Sodom or Noah in the flood, or He will protect them through the wrath, as with Israel in Egypt or Daniel amid the lions. Though the day of the Lord is coming, it’s not coming for anyone sealed by God’s Spirit.
DavidTree
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Pre-tribulation is direct opposition to the words of Christ and the Apostles = John 16:33 , Matt ch24 , 1st & 2nd Thess
Imminence does not and cannot change the DIRECT statements of Christ of His Second Coming = "It is written".
The LORD has no "imminence" attached to Himself or His Second Coming = Acts 1:4-8
And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?”
And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
Furthermore, the LORD Says that HE will NOT Return until His Gospel is preached in all the world to the nations.
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.
Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations,
and then the end will come.
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DavidTree
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You said "four" but gave 'three'
Here are the BIG FOUR according to "the word of the LORD"
#1 - The LORD will bring with Him, the (spirits) of those who died in Him = 1 Thess 4:13-14
#2 - The LORD will DESCEND from Heaven with the Trumpet Call of God for the RESURRECTION = 1 Thess 4:15-16
v16 - And the dead in Christ will Rise FIRST
#3 - After the Resurrection those remaining 'alive' saints will be caught UP(rapture) = 1 Thess 4:17
#4 - Once these things are completed the Wrath of God falls upon the unbelievers for God has not destined us to wrath.
Therefore comfort one another with these words = 1 Thess 1:10 ,1 Thess 4:18 , 1 Thess 5:9
DavidTree
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Imminence
Imminence applies to our very short time on this earth = The LORD is not subject to "imminence"
Remember, then, what you have received and heard.
Keep it and repent.
If you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know the hour when I will come upon you.
Tothalordbeallglory
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No , i am no mystic . its not me following the voice of one crying
in the wilderness prepare this people for anti christ , make ready a false love of the world
that leads to acceptance of sins and unbeleif .
I aint the mystic . MYSTERY INQUITY has been at work and that which is of anti christ
has been working . And its father knows how to lie , its mother is a harlot
and many sip of her cup of fornication , believing its love and of GOD
and is the way to attain world peace n safety . Hope that puts your mind at ease
that i dont see myself as some great mystic with so called special revelation .
ANY wee sheep with eyes to see could easily see this church age has SOLD OUT
to what it thinks and so beleives is love and of GOD . ONLY it aint . That ol serepent is a sneak one .
but the sheep wont heed its voice .
DavidTree
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1 - the Lord Jesus Christ aka "The Way the Truth the Life"
2 - the Holy Scriptures aka "Thy word is Truth"
3 - the Holy Spirit , aka the Spirit of Truth
dwight92070
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The day of Jesus' 2nd Coming, which is the day of the rapture, is the "last day." Jesus told us that it was. John 6:39, 40, 44, and 54.
There will be no more days after that day on this earth, because after His return, our resurrection (or rapture, if we are alive then), and His judgment of the wicked, while we are with Him in the clouds (1 Thess. 4:16-18) - then it appears will be the time when this heaven and this earth will be destroyed by fire (2 Peter 3:10), and a new heaven and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells will be created.
There is no 7 year tribulation mentioned in the Bible and there is no literal 1000 year reign of Christ in Jerusalem - because BOTH OF THOSE would require MORE DAYS on this old earth - but the 2nd Coming is the LAST DAY, which is also the day of the rapture, and of the resurrection of all mankind, both the wicked and the righteous, (John 5:28-29) and the judgment of the wicked, and the reward of the righteous - so NO, no one can be saved after that. That is the LAST DAY.
There will be no more days after that day on this earth, because after His return, our resurrection (or rapture, if we are alive then), and His judgment of the wicked, while we are with Him in the clouds (1 Thess. 4:16-18) - then it appears will be the time when this heaven and this earth will be destroyed by fire (2 Peter 3:10), and a new heaven and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells will be created.
There is no 7 year tribulation mentioned in the Bible and there is no literal 1000 year reign of Christ in Jerusalem - because BOTH OF THOSE would require MORE DAYS on this old earth - but the 2nd Coming is the LAST DAY, which is also the day of the rapture, and of the resurrection of all mankind, both the wicked and the righteous, (John 5:28-29) and the judgment of the wicked, and the reward of the righteous - so NO, no one can be saved after that. That is the LAST DAY.
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DavidTree
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You are 100% Correct
Please do more reading and praying on this for God promised that man would rule & reign with Christ for 1,000 Years
Shalom and Good Night
Selah
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Greetings, @Manasseh
I’m sorry, but I just can’t agree with you here because God wants His servants to endure until the very end, which is when Jesus Christ returns at the 7th trump. It’s amazingly sad that so many Christian churches so often teach exactly the opposite of what the Word of God says. They teach that the first one taken in the field in Mat. 24:40 is taken by Jesus Christ in the rapture of the church. Not true, and just a little bit of tilling and digging in the Bible, even by just reading Matthew 24 in context, will clearly show that the subject of the entire 24th chapter is about the deception of Satan and the events leading up to the return of Jesus Christ.
Think about it (selah)… The first one taken in the field is taken and deceived by the antichrist, the one that comes at the 6th trump claiming to be God.
Me? I’m going to keep on laboring and working in the field enduring until the very end and waiting for Jesus Christ the King of kings and Lord of lords who comes at the 7th trump. How ‘bout you?
Selah
