brightfame52
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I gave my evidence
Arminian perspective on Gods Sovereignty and mans free will
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You run from rebuttal verses to verses you can read your theology into.
brightfame52
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Thats not my job to prove truth to anyone, thats the Spirits Job, He sanctifies unto the belief of the Truth at His will 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Now wonder if people are under the Judgment of God, and He has sent them a strong delusion to believe a lie 2 Thess 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Now how is it my Job and in my ability to prove truth to them?
If you want any to believe you, it surely is
You are simply doing a very poor job of it.
What you propagate is not the Spirit's truth but the teaching of man.
BTW you have made a mess of that passage as well as it those who will not believe who then receive a strong delusion
2 Thessalonians 2:10 (KJV 1900) — 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
One has to wonder why you avoided the context present we see in verse 10
MTMattie
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Or copy and pastes, ad nauseum.
MTMattie
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Misery loves company, doesn't it?
brightfame52
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MTMattie
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The street works both ways
brightfame52
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2 Thess 2:10-12
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Mans will isn't free from its love of darkness and hatred of the Truth, so the non elect, unregenerate will not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved, for its written Jn 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 ;For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
See the Gospel is Light 2 Cor 4 4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
This light of the Glorious Gospel of Christ, man naturally loves darkness over and above it, it even hates the Light, except a sovereign work of God intervenes, which Jesus spoke of earlier , the New Birth Vs 3-8,
Mans will isnt free from its love of unrighteousness
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Mans will isn't free from its love of darkness and hatred of the Truth, so the non elect, unregenerate will not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved, for its written Jn 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 ;For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
See the Gospel is Light 2 Cor 4 4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
This light of the Glorious Gospel of Christ, man naturally loves darkness over and above it, it even hates the Light, except a sovereign work of God intervenes, which Jesus spoke of earlier , the New Birth Vs 3-8,
Mans will isnt free from its love of unrighteousness
civic
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and completely ignored the OP
civic
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yep !
Eternally-Grateful
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this is what it looks like when you think you are special
brightfame52
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Its in response to the op, the heading of it, "mans freewill"
Doublethink at its best...
civic
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which I disproved your ideas regarding the topic with plenty of scripture that contradicts your position. You have made empty claims.
brightfame52
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No, its when God thinks you are special.
brightfame52
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You have never once explained one scripture, like your friend, you may barrage a person with 50 scriptures, then leave it to them to figure them out.
civic
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nope they all say the same thing which refutes tulip. they were all explained along with all the scriptures proving their validity.
Eternally-Grateful
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God does not think anyone is special.. That's why he determined all under sin.
God did not put you on a pedistool
He will offer you his grace gift. But its up to you to recieve it.
