Arminian perspective on Gods Sovereignty and mans free will

[Eternally-Grateful]

I would expect an as detailed and systematic a response as to why, in your opinion, the argument is invalidated.

You see, most people don’t accept a position simply because you say so. The argument against you is a valid, systematic approach to the question. All we want from you is why, specifically, you don’t agree.

There is no lack of understanding of your argument, at least on my part, and I don’t think @Johann is flummoxed either.


Doug

Yes amen!

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

I would never waste my time giving you such a response, I don't labor like that for people who oppose the Gospel

posts like this should be reported.

people like this have no business being in a discussion forum. because they are not here to discuss. but to enforce their will on others.

 

[civic]

Amen

He created mankind. Gave mankind everythign he needed.

Mankind chose to go his own way.

But God loved him he did not leave him stranded. so he devised a plan to save mankind even before man was created. Knowing he would fail (man not God)

yes and God gave man freely dominion over this earth.

 

[civic]

I would never waste my time giving you such a response, I dont labor like that for people who oppose the Gospel

you are projecting again since you are the one who is against the gospel of Jesus and the Apostles. Heed Pauls warning in Galatians 1:6-9.

 

[civic]

What you expect, Im posting and explaining my view. If a person doesnt understand, they will ask a million questions and never understand.

false since Jesus and the disciples asked questions all of the time.

next failed argument

next fallacy

 

[Dizerner]

People should not be reported for just believing in something, sheesh.

How did this woke controlling mindset infiltrate Christianity.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

People should not be reported for just believing in something, sheesh.

How did this woke controlling mindset infiltrate Christianity.

If he just believed something he would be ok.

its the way he talked to the person.

If you think it is ok to talk to people this way.. I do not know what to say

woke?? lol

 

[brightfame52]

@MTMattie

When people know the truth and refuse to receive it, when they refuse to obey it and hold it in unrighteousness, “they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth” (see 2 Thessalonians 2:12 )

Hence God, the Heavenly Father will send them delusions, for it is also by their free will they just might have a self change of heart and He is not having any of they.

They were appointed to refuse it, the word of truth, so now God Judges them and confirms them in a delusion to believe a lie and He damns them !

 

[brightfame52]

posts like this should be reported.

people like this have no business being in a discussion forum. because they are not here to discuss. but to enforce their will on others.

Me discussing the topic isnt being forced to answer a 100 million questions. Either the opponent can only show from scripture why they agree or disagree with a theme, and be able to back it up with scripture. Learn what debate is or discussion, its not giving an opponent a barrage of scriptures and say, now explain these.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Me discussing the topic isnt being forced to answer a 100 million questions. Either the opponent can only show from scripture why they agree or disagree with a theme, and be able to back it up with scripture. Learn what debate is or discussion, its not giving an opponent a barrage of scriptures and say, now explain these.

Learn how to talk to people without a smug arrogant tone as if your a know it all and they do not know anything.

Take accountability for your actions for once!!

 

[brightfame52]

false since Jesus and the disciples asked questions all of the time.

next failed argument

next fallacy

Jesus and the disciples arent here

 

[MTMattie]

@MTMattie


They were appointed to refuse it, the word of truth, so now God Judges them and confirms them in a delusion to believe a lie and He damns them !

You have not proven you know the word of truth.

 

[praise_yeshua]

posts like this should be reported.

people like this have no business being in a discussion forum. because they are not here to discuss. but to enforce their will on others.

I've long considered "him" a troll. I have the opinion that "don't feed the trolls" usually works.

 

[praise_yeshua]

People should not be reported for just believing in something, sheesh.

How did this woke controlling mindset infiltrate Christianity.

Everyone wants to control someone.....

Usually.... people avoid an inward look relative to controlling themselves.....

I know I have an issue with it myself. At least I realize it is there..... Everyone should realize this and avoid it.

 

[praise_yeshua]

yes and God gave man freely dominion over this earth.

Which is why bad things happen to good people. When evil people are promoted with power....... we get what we prompted.

1Sa 8:10 So Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking for a king from him.
1Sa 8:11 He said, “These will be the ways of the king who will reign over you: he will take your sons and appoint them to his chariots and to be his horsemen and to run before his chariots.
1Sa 8:12 And he will appoint for himself commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and some to plow his ground and to reap his harvest, and to make his implements of war and the equipment of his chariots.
1Sa 8:13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers.
1Sa 8:14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive orchards and give them to his servants.
1Sa 8:15 He will take the tenth of your grain and of your vineyards and give it to his officers and to his servants.
1Sa 8:16 He will take your male servants and female servants and the best of your young men and your donkeys, and put them to his work.
1Sa 8:17 He will take the tenth of your flocks, and you shall be his slaves.
1Sa 8:18 And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

 

[brightfame52]

You have not proven you know the word of truth.

So who do I need to prove it to ?

 

[TomL]

I would never waste my time giving you such a response, I dont labor like that for people who oppose the Gospel

You mean you do not address scripture opposed to your gospel.

 

[MTMattie]

@MTMattie


They were appointed to refuse it, the word of truth, so now God Judges them and confirms them in a delusion to believe a lie and He damns them !

So who do I need to prove it to ?

You are the accuser. You need to provide evidence so we can determine how to tell who is on the list.

BTW. Been meaning to ask why parts of your avatar look like they are faces?

 

[TomL]

So who do I need to prove it to ?

Everyone you want to believe your theology.

 

[brightfame52]

You mean you do not address scripture opposed to your gospel.

Sure I do, all the time